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post #301 of 514
Are you guys able to capture at 60FPS? If so, what computer specifications do you guys have?
post #302 of 514
With the settings/caveat I noted, yes. Or using lossless with appropriate buffer settings I don't have a problem.

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE 3.40GHz
RAM: 4GB
Video card: Asus HD4350
Capture drive: ST3200542AS
post #303 of 514
Well then, looks like I'm due for a new CPU and HDD.
post #304 of 514
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Originally Posted by JinkoMK View Post

Are you guys able to capture at 60FPS? If so, what computer specifications do you guys have?

Here's an example of 720p60 from MegaUpload. (Warning the file is 240Mb)

I have similar PC specs to Gohan's setup, I use 7500rpm drives in a Raid0 for storage.
post #305 of 514
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Originally Posted by JinkoMK View Post

Are you guys able to capture at 60FPS? If so, what computer specifications do you guys have?

My old PC record in 720p@60fps:

C2D E6600 + 8GB DDR2 + GF 9800GT + 00GB HD 7200 + WINDOWS 7 64.

720p@60 in MPEG2 (30.000 Bitrate)
720p@60 in AVI (UT VIDEO CODEC or HUFFYUV)
post #306 of 514
I decided to give x264vfw a try. For lossy capturing I like it a lot better than DivX 6. Initially I thought that it hadn't been updated in a long time, but when I went to download I saw that the most recent build was only a few days ago.

Using the "Superfast" preset and with VDub's Overlay on I got 0 drops/inserts for 8 hours of 720p60, then when I came back to the computer and played some Flash videos I did get 1 drop/1 insert, and a few more drops over the next several hours.



Unlike DivX (non-pro) the bitrate isn't artificially limited to 20Mbps, and there are additional options for rate control.

There is one faster setting, "Ultrafast", and the next slower setting "Veryfast" also works well with my system but only with Overlay/Preview off.
post #307 of 514
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Originally Posted by msgohan View Post

I decided to give x264vfw a try. For lossy capturing I like it a lot better than DivX 6. Initially I thought that it hadn't been updated in a long time, but when I went to download I saw that the most recent build was only a few days ago.

I did try x264 when I got the capture card initially, it didn't get the job done at that time.

Maybe the new build has solved those issues, I'll try it out again.
post #308 of 514
I overclocked my CPU from 2.4GHz to 3.2GHz, and my average FPS is still the same.

I can't think of what I'm doing wrong. Any suggestions? Format? New HDD?
post #309 of 514
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Originally Posted by JinkoMK View Post

I overclocked my CPU from 2.4GHz to 3.2GHz, and my average FPS is still the same.

I can't think of what I'm doing wrong. Any suggestions? Format? New HDD?

Are you running alot of processes in the background, do you have Aero disabled?

Sometimes limiting the programs running could help the capture speed.
post #310 of 514
After trying out the new build of x264 I'm very impressed as well Gohan. It almost doubles the bitrate of DivX and still maintains the same framerate.

For those interested here's two examples of an identical video, one captured with x264 the other with DivX. (Warning Again, these are large files)

x264: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OT92Z51F [823Mb]

DivX: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O98MRRT3 [481Mb]
post #311 of 514
One other advantage I've seen is that H.264 from x264vfw can be decoded by hardware acceleration (DXVA) while DivX seems to use CPU only, at least on my system.

I've edited my screencap above; it seems that Zero Latency must be checked in order to maintain A/V sync.
post #312 of 514
So I purchased 2 HDDs and Raid0 them. I installed the OS on them, but that was a mistake. Install the OS on a different drive from the one you are capturing.

I'm now getting 60FPS, no stutters and jumps. I'm extremely happy.
post #313 of 514
Glad you've got it working well. Never thought to ask whether you were capturing to your OS drive before; it's been almost a decade since I've done that (apart from testing out my SSD).

Just remember not to store anything you don't mind losing on RAID0.
post #314 of 514
What WinXP-based program would be best to use with this card to capture 720x480i @ 29.97fps video + Dolby Digital 2.0 audio -- both over HDMI -- and then video encode to MPEG2 and mux in the DD 2.0 audio. Would the program that is bundled with AverTV be sufficient? Or should I look into VirtualDub and/or VH Capture.

Since I'm interested in standard def and lowly MPEG2 as final output, I presume the capture program I use doesn't need to be very specialized. But I've made erroneous presumptions before

Any feedback here would be appreciated. Thanks!
post #315 of 514
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Originally Posted by Vlad Theimpaler View Post
What WinXP-based program would be best to use with this card to capture 720x480i @ 29.97fps video + Dolby Digital 2.0 audio -- both over HDMI -- and then video encode to MPEG2 and mux in the DD 2.0 audio. Would the program that is bundled with AverTV be sufficient? Or should I look into VirtualDub and/or VH Capture.

Since I'm interested in standard def and lowly MPEG2 as final output, I presume the capture program I use doesn't need to be very specialized.
What's the endgame, are you trying to put the captures onto a DVD-R for playback in a standalone DVD player?
post #316 of 514
The AVer Media app has given me nothing but problems with the tuner card, but it works just fine with the capture card. I make great recordings in Mpeg2 with no problems. The interface is kinda clunky, but it works. Never tried it with XP though.
post #317 of 514
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Originally Posted by Vlad Theimpaler View Post
What WinXP-based program would be best to use with this card to capture 720x480i @ 29.97fps video + Dolby Digital 2.0 audio -- both over HDMI
If you're wanting the original Dolby stream, not possible with this card. Only decoded PCM.
post #318 of 514
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Originally Posted by Kenshiro 26 View Post
What's the endgame, are you trying to put the captures onto a DVD-R for playback in a standalone DVD player?
Not for DVD player... just want to have an MPEG2 file on my capture drive that I can play back with VLC Videolan from the PC to the TV.


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Originally Posted by robn1 View Post
The AVer Media app has given me nothing but problems with the tuner card, but it works just fine with the capture card. I make great recordings in Mpeg2 with no problems. The interface is kinda clunky, but it works. Never tried it with XP though.
Does this card have a digital tuner (ATSC, presumably) *plus* HDMI input for capturing digital video? I was only aware of the latter.


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Originally Posted by msgohan View Post
If you're wanting the original Dolby stream, not possible with this card. Only decoded PCM.
Bummer. Thanks for the heads up.


Thanks a bunch everyone. I'll be keeping my eye on this thread
post #319 of 514
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Originally Posted by Vlad Theimpaler View Post
...Does this card have a digital tuner (ATSC, presumably) *plus* HDMI input for capturing digital video? I was only aware of the latter...
No tuner. I use a separate tuner card, the AVer 188 Duet. The AVer app keeps dropping the cable signal, so I use the tuner in WMC. but the capture card doesn't work in WMC but the AVer seems to work OK for that.
post #320 of 514
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vlad Theimpaler View Post
What WinXP-based program would be best to use with this card to capture 720x480i @ 29.97fps video + Dolby Digital 2.0 audio -- both over HDMI -- and then video encode to MPEG2 and mux in the DD 2.0 audio. Would the program that is bundled with AverTV be sufficient? Or should I look into VirtualDub and/or VH Capture.

Since I'm interested in standard def and lowly MPEG2 as final output, I presume the capture program I use doesn't need to be very specialized. But I've made erroneous presumptions before

Any feedback here would be appreciated. Thanks!
For 480i@29,97 use AmarecTV + FFDSHOW DV codec. No way to DD 2.0 (PCM only)

The most spetacular AmarecTV feature is "DEINTERLACED Filter ON".

I always deinterlace and record with filter = PERFECT PROGRESSIVE 60fps.

Awesome software. The best and most complete I've ever worn in 10 years of capture.

I made a tutorial for it in the forum of Roxio (Roxio Capture Game) also work to AVER.


Cauptain
post #321 of 514
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Originally Posted by Kenshiro 26 View Post

After trying out the new build of x264 I'm very impressed as well Gohan. It almost doubles the bitrate of DivX and still maintains the same framerate.

For those interested here's two examples of an identical video, one captured with x264 the other with DivX. (Warning Again, these are large files)

x264: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OT92Z51F [823Mb]

DivX: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O98MRRT3 [481Mb]

Strange.

Your DIVX file is correct 60/60FPS.



X264 file is 25/60FPs.



Whats up??
post #322 of 514
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Originally Posted by Cauptain View Post

Strange.

Whats up??

That is strange, no changes were made other than the switch of video compression.

I captured the clips back to back.
post #323 of 514
What metadata is MediaInfo reading to come up with the "original frame rate"?
post #324 of 514
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenshiro 26 View Post

That is strange, no changes were made other than the switch of video compression.

I captured the clips back to back.

My capture:
post #325 of 514
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Originally Posted by msgohan View Post

What metadata is MediaInfo reading to come up with the "original frame rate"?

I use Daum Potplayer, Kmplayer and MPC to this.





But my X264 VFW Codec is Komisar build: http://komisar.gin.by/
post #326 of 514
Right, all of those programs are just using MediaInfo (open-source) to deliver that data. But what is MediaInfo using to derive that number?

In fact, it looks like MediaInfo has removed that field from standalone builds in new versions. Or at least I haven't found the option to show it.
post #327 of 514
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Originally Posted by msgohan View Post

Right, all of those programs are just using MediaInfo (open-source) to deliver that data. But what is MediaInfo using to derive that number?

In fact, it looks like MediaInfo has removed that field from standalone builds in new versions. Or at least I haven't found the option to show it.

post #328 of 514
My 0.7.45 doesn't even look like that:



Anyway, whatever the field is, players will only use the actual frame rate.
post #329 of 514
I'm suddenly getting a few problems.

Both is to do with previewing through VHCapture. First of all, every now and then the preview freezes for a quick second. It's pretty difficult to play your game when it freezes like this.

Secondly, audio preview sounds a little choppy. It's like static when sound is at a particular level. It wasn't like this when I first started using the device.

Pretty weird.
post #330 of 514
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Originally Posted by JinkoMK View Post
every now and then the preview freezes for a quick second. It's pretty difficult to play your game when it freezes like this.
It's not advisable to play a game from the capture program. Use an HDMI splitter, which will give you playback to both your display and to the AverTV card.
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