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post #1081 of 2078
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Originally Posted by Joelc View Post

ADA has changed DSP chips in the past and even in the MACH IV B...thye latest change was to correct a PLIIx issue.

I suppose you're talking about firmware upgrade, not a DSP chips change.
The Mach IV unit is 1y old, I didn't see any communication about what you are talking to.
A friend bought this unit 10 months ago, it s seller or Ada never call him back.

I know there was a PLII issue (supposed to be solved out with latest firmare).

There is one (major) remaining issue regarding the PEQ for the subwoofer output.

regards
post #1082 of 2078
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Originally Posted by DanFrancis View Post

I can't say that I know the particulars, I have been told- but cannot for the life of me remember. Honestly, I don't care- Albert Langella has used the parts he's chosen extremely well in my opinion, and you know what, it works and sounds great!

I've said this before; until you more than double the cost of the Rhapsody, you cannot find a processor that sounds markedly (if at all) better. So any discussion to particular DSP chips or DAC chips is akin to "picking more nits than a bunch of spider monkeys" - a lovely quote from the ever-eloquent Dennis Miller.

The bottom line is that the Rhapsody and the Suite 7.1HD work, and do so very reliably...and in my line of work that's more important than boutique parts. I consider ADA to be very blue-collar workhorse product - I can count on it to be there for me when I need it. I strongly recommend AGAINST going down the path of specmanship, it is a losing battle- no one wins.

Dan


I'm agree. The most important is how the boxe sounds.
post #1083 of 2078
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Originally Posted by Sound&Life View Post

There is one (major) remaining issue regarding the PEQ for the subwoofer output.

AFAIK this was corrected on the HDMI 1.4 units.

Adam
post #1084 of 2078
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Originally Posted by AngelEyes View Post

AFAIK this was corrected on the HDMI 1.4 units.

Adam

Correct...
post #1085 of 2078
How many ada expert Adams are there in the uk, I collaborate with one, might that be..?

Does it ring a Bell?
post #1086 of 2078
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Originally Posted by CINERAMAX View Post

How many ada expert Adams are there in the uk, I collaborate with one, might that be..?

Does it ring a Bell?

LOL I am not sure I qualify as an 'expert', more of a 'busy-body', I don't think we have met though. I am the Adam who wrote this review of the Suite 7.1 HD a while back but I am just a punter, albeit a passionate one: http://www.livedigital.co.uk/2010/06...-suite-7-1-hd/

Cheers,

Adam
post #1087 of 2078
I thought you might have been Adam bell from smartcomm who toils with it.

post #1088 of 2078
Hi,

New question
Will ADA SSPs be upgradable to be compliant with the THX Media Director functionality ?

Regards.
post #1089 of 2078
I certainly don't want to hijack this forum, but since there are several knowledgable ADA users here, I wanted to ask if anyone has experience with ADA's HTR-2400 theater and multi-room receiver. It's a product that's been discontinued for a few years, but I have a couple questions about its operation if anyone happens to be familiar with it. If so, please send me a PM. Thanks.
post #1090 of 2078
PM sent

Dan
post #1091 of 2078
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Originally Posted by AngelEyes View Post


AFAIK this was corrected on the HDMI 1.4 units.

Adam

What problem is that?
post #1092 of 2078
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Originally Posted by MKtheater View Post


What problem is that?

If you go back a few pages it is described in more detail.

Adam
post #1093 of 2078
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Originally Posted by AngelEyes View Post


If you go back a few pages it is described in more detail.

Adam

How far? I tried 4 with no luck, I was looking for the discussion. Basically my suite 7.1hd has the beat bass ever and then the output is gone sometimes.
post #1094 of 2078
I don't know how far, I guess if you are bothered enough you will find it.

It isn't related to what you are describing though. AFAIK I am the only person who has noticed it, so if you haven't noticed it I wouldn't worry about it. I think something in my system makes it more obvious than most... It is a form of low level distortion that occurs when filters are applied in the PEQ.

Adam
post #1095 of 2078
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Originally Posted by AngelEyes View Post

I don't know how far, I guess if you are bothered enough you will find it.

It isn't related to what you are describing though. AFAIK I am the only person who has noticed it, so if you haven't noticed it I wouldn't worry about it. I think something in my system makes it more obvious than most... It is a form of low level distortion that occurs when filters are applied in the PEQ.

Adam

Yeah, I just found it thanks. It was back 10-11 pages. I think mine is a different issue for sure. I lose lots of output during movies sometimes. It might be a HDMI EQ problem or something like that. The bass is still there but it seems it is holding back quite a bit for some reason like a limiter is on. I will get a hold of Ada on Monday but was just trying to figure it out over the weekend.
post #1096 of 2078
I doubt it is a hardware issue, more like (no disrespect) setup related or not the ADA, they are pretty bomb-proof IMO. Did you do the setup yourself or have an installer do it?

I can maybe check your HD Suite settings against my own if it helps?

Adam
post #1097 of 2078
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Originally Posted by AngelEyes View Post

I don't know how far, I guess if you are bothered enough you will find it.

It isn't related to what you are describing though. AFAIK I am the only person who has noticed it, so if you haven't noticed it I wouldn't worry about it. I think something in my system makes it more obvious than most... It is a form of low level distortion that occurs when filters are applied in the PEQ.

Adam

PEQ low level noise when applying to sub channel or all channels?
post #1098 of 2078
All I believe but generally only noticeable in (very) bass capable speakers and at a very low level. Like I said I don't know anyone else who has noticed it, so it probably isn't worth worrying about.
post #1099 of 2078
The one on audiogon does not have that problem.
post #1100 of 2078
Quote:
Originally Posted by AngelEyes View Post

I doubt it is a hardware issue, more like (no disrespect) setup related or not the ADA, they are pretty bomb-proof IMO. Did you do the setup yourself or have an installer do it?

I can maybe check your HD Suite settings against my own if it helps?

Adam

I set up myself but I did not use a computer. I first thought it was the HDMI cable because I swapped it out and the bass was back but then it went out again. I messed with the HDMI EQ settings(restored them) and the bass came back for a long time so I thought the problem was over but last night it happened again. I will recheck all the connections again because I just added new subs and the amp to power it. I still don't know how to connect this to a computer. I have the Ethernet cable hooked up through my modem.
post #1101 of 2078
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Originally Posted by CINERAMAX View Post

The one on audiogon does not have that problem.

I did not see one there. What are you guys using for amplification? I am using the MPA 500, a sherbourn, and a FP clone for sub duty.
post #1102 of 2078
I've setup several suite7.1HDs and Rhapsodys - all have PEQ engaged, none of those systems have low level bass noise. Each system has 3+ subwoofers and full range fronts.

MKtheater; are you maintaining RCA (unbalanced) connections throughout? What you're describing sounds like an installation problem.

Dan
post #1103 of 2078
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Originally Posted by DanFrancis View Post

I've setup several suite7.1HDs and Rhapsodys - all have PEQ engaged, none of those systems have low level bass noise. Each system has 3+ subwoofers and full range fronts.

MKtheater; are you maintaining RCA (unbalanced) connections throughout? What you're describing sounds like an installation problem.

Dan

I know it is something simple. I just updated the software to the PS3 so maybe I have to re-select the audio options again. I will make sure all the connections are secure and check the PS3 and let you guys know. BTW, Ada is my favorite and not by a little. I used to have the Meridian 861, krell, etc.... and I like the Ada.
post #1104 of 2078
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Originally Posted by AngelEyes View Post

AFAIK this was corrected on the HDMI 1.4 units.

It would be nice to have confirmation of that.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DanFrancis View Post

I've setup several suite7.1HDs and Rhapsodys - all have PEQ engaged, none of those systems have low level bass noise. Each system has 3+ subwoofers and full range fronts.

As originally described by Adam, it seemed to be the same problem I found in the SSP-800, which was an issue with the MDA DSP board's firmware, long ago fixed there (early 2010).

What makes it rather elusive is that the problem was not audible in the SSP unless 1) certain PEQ settings were used, 2) certain content was used, and 3) certain listening conditions were used. I think I was the only SSP owner to mention it in 1.5 years, although someone at Classe knew about it, too.

1) Use a gain of -6 to -10 dB or so, and a Q of 5 or higher, at a convenient frequency like 100 Hz to 1 kHz in a main channel (that's where I found it, anyway).

2) Input a sine wave at the same frequency as above. I used a test CD recorded at -12 dBFS, but the level is not critical.

3) Listen in a quiet room. Turn the PEQ band on/off, or adjust the Q to lower values (like 1) and see if background noise is present and changes. If so, that is the problem. If there is no noise under any condition, no problem. (The noise is confined to the channel, it does not spread across other channels of from sub to main.)

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Originally Posted by CINERAMAX View Post

The one on audiogon does not have that problem.

How do you know? Did ADA confirm the 1.4 units use corrected firmware?
post #1105 of 2078
I speak to the UK distributors regularly and they tell me the issue has been corrected in the 1.4 units.

Adam
post #1106 of 2078
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Originally Posted by AngelEyes View Post

I speak to the UK distributors regularly and they tell me the issue has been corrected in the 1.4 units.

Adam

I use PEQ with a q over 5 on the sub channel and have no problems at all.
post #1107 of 2078
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Originally Posted by AngelEyes View Post

I speak to the UK distributors regularly and they tell me the issue has been corrected in the 1.4 units.

Superb, Adam. Thanks!
post #1108 of 2078
I'm on the hunt of a processor with digital output (s) to drive active speakers via Coax-spdif.
I don't see mentioning this feature in the ADA's manual. But since this is a highly customizable device (so i read) I was wondering whether it's possible...
post #1109 of 2078
no, analog outputs only. At least no way to do what you're looking for.

sorry.

Theta and Datasat are the only ones that come to my mind.

Dan
post #1110 of 2078
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Originally Posted by DanFrancis View Post

no, analog outputs only. At least no way to do what you're looking for.

sorry.

Theta and Datasat are the only ones that come to my mind.

Dan

Thanks... I am reading about them as well.
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