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post #1561 of 2083
By TEQ , do you mean trinnov ?
post #1562 of 2083
Yep.

OK. What to do with the PROM file? It will not load.

Gotta be something simple.
post #1563 of 2083
Try using the older version of suite Hd software with which file was created and with TEQ disconnected and see if it works
post #1564 of 2083
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Originally Posted by mani View Post

Try using the older version of suite Hd software with which file was created and with TEQ disconnected and see if it works

No luck. V4_08

But to that end, I created a PROM file with the current software but failed to be able to reload it.

Any other suggestions?
post #1565 of 2083
Try changing Ethernet cable . Make sure Ada and laptop are directly connected to same router. If that is not working , try directly connecting ADA with crossover cable. Otherwise Richard at ADA may have to chime in. I have to agree , communication with Ada is their Achilles heel . Even 75 dollar routers have flawless web interface and controls now. If they can make a more robust and flawless network based control interface , there won't be much left to desire at the price you can get ADA at. (as compared to other options at this price point )
post #1566 of 2083
Ok. I'm out tonight but will try tomorrow. Both MacBook and ADA are plugged into a larger Ethernet switcher. This was the same set up prior to updating but I will plug both directly into my router tomorrow.

I will try the crossover cable too. I don't have to mess with the ISO-e for that do I???? Has anyone been able to use the crossover cable and connect wirelessly/or straight cable without resetting ISO-e?

I've even used an old Dell laptop. No luck.

Every single thing works except loading this PROM.

Thanks!!
post #1567 of 2083
Jeff, happy that I was able to help and get you going...I will think through the configuration file later tonight but one thing you absolutely need to do is make sure that i) you are hard wire connected [much better than wireless] and ii) turn off the wireless card in your laptop because HD Suite can do strange things when it sees two network cards on a laptop...speak tomorrow...
post #1568 of 2083
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Originally Posted by Joelc View Post

Jeff, happy that I was able to help and get you going...I will think through the configuration file later tonight but one thing you absolutely need to do is make sure that i) you are hard wire connected [much better than wireless] and ii) turn off the wireless card in your laptop because HD Suite can do strange things when it sees two network cards on a laptop...speak tomorrow...

Thanks again! I have had wireless off for all my trials.

I tested that crossover cable and it works.

What is the protocol to use the direct cable? Anything with the ISO-e need to be changed?

Thanks again.
post #1569 of 2083
How would you guys characterize this unit, compared to the Meridian 861V4 or 6 with the HDMI switcher? I'm noodling on getting a high end unit again (second hand) and these two are among the top three...

Stieger
post #1570 of 2083
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How would you guys characterize this unit, compared to the Meridian 861V4 or 6 with the HDMI switcher? I'm noodling on getting a high end unit again (second hand) and these two are among the top three...

Stieger

I use to own a Meridian 861V4.25 + HD 621 and, for me, I prefer the ADA unit but that is just me...
post #1571 of 2083
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Originally Posted by thebland View Post

Thanks again! I have had wireless off for all my trials.

I tested that crossover cable and it works.

What is the protocol to use the direct cable? Anything with the ISO-e need to be changed?

Thanks again.

I would suggest plugging in the laptop to the switch that is closest to the ADA unit in the event that you are experiencing an internal network issue or other anomaly but no, nothing needs to be changed to the ISO-E...
post #1572 of 2083
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Originally Posted by Joelc View Post

I would suggest plugging in the laptop to the switch that is closest to the ADA unit in the event that you are experiencing an internal network issue or other anomaly but no, nothing needs to be changed to the ISO-E...

Been doing that..the switch is in my equipment room with my ADA and laptop.

Will try the x-over again and post back.

Thanks!
post #1573 of 2083
Well I tried it all but no luck.

Perhaps I should revisit ISO-e. I know folks here have said you don't need to mess with it but the ISO-e instructions make clear you should... And I've had no luck with the crossover.

Any idea what type of IP address, etc I should try to set up the crossover cable via ISO-e? Anyone tried this?

Thanks!
post #1574 of 2083
Note down the current ISO settings and the do factory restore . That would be an option in suite HD software . Then turn bot ADA off and laptop off and connect them with a crossover cable and turn AdA on first and then laptop and start hd suite . You shooilf ny have to do anything with ISO settings to connect via crossover
post #1575 of 2083
I would recommend rebooting the network switch and try getting new Ethernet and crossover cables ESP the cables connecting Ada and Karoo to switch
Which operating system are you using
post #1576 of 2083
Will do.

But what is wierd is that everything else, every command is controllable (with feedback) except this loading of the PROM.

Thanks!

Shouldn't my crossover be ok? I connected 2 macs together and could see and access each from the other.
post #1577 of 2083
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Originally Posted by thebland View Post

Will do.

But what is wierd is that everything else, every command is controllable (with feedback) except this loading of the PROM.

Thanks!

Shouldn't my crossover be ok? I connected 2 macs together and could see and access each from the other.

It should be but I have seen weird things happen with slightly damaged Ethernet cable. It will easier to try it than try to ship the unit back etc . So I thought it may be worth trying
post #1578 of 2083
Hey Mani,

Do you use LAN (wireless) to make changes in your ADA? I have a second crossover cable. I'm going to try it without changing ISOe. If that fails, I'll then reset it to defaults, reset the ISO-e and try again.

Have you tried the crossover cable without changing your ISO-e? Do you use or have you tried to use crossover as well as non-crossover cables to load PROM?
post #1579 of 2083
Yes ... As long as I use windows XP( original XP , not the XP mode on windows 7) , everything works flawlessly both on LAN and crossover . I have had several win7 laptops and desktops , some work some don't and even the ones that work, stop working after some time ( probably from changes in registry or comm32 files) as different programs / updates are installed on those laptops. So I don't bother wasting hours trying o fix the issues and just use xp laptop with zero problems..
However there is a newer hd suite software now whih has built in PEQ which I believe works with win 7.
post #1580 of 2083
OK. Good to know. I am using XP SP3. I will try my second ethernet cable and see how it goes.

My only thing is why would it work with a crossover and via a straight cable over the network?

I'll give it a go! Thanks!!
post #1581 of 2083
This was from an email Tom at ADA had sent me.

Also, Mani, are you with the HDMI 1.3 version? If so, could you email me your PROM file? I'd like to try and load it.
What does this mean (DHCP when setting up with a crossover cable)?

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With regards to using the laptop with the crossover cable to program directly: the laptop should be set to receive an IP address from a DHCP server.*The CR-4 will assign an IP address to the laptop.*You should first boot up both CR-4 and the laptop, then connect the crossover cable.*You’ll then have to wait for a few moments so that the DHCP server assigns an IP address to the laptop. After that you can start the ISO-E program.*
post #1582 of 2083
I might be too deep into this but aren't PROM settings your levels, delays, all stuff under the 'Theater',tab???

If so, I have that info back. (?)
post #1583 of 2083
Yes . That's the prom file. Any input presets, volume presets , delays , levels etc
post #1584 of 2083
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Originally Posted by mani View Post

Yes . That's the prom file. Any input presets, volume presets , delays , levels etc

I don't know how it happened but it loaded. Thanks Mani!

It could've been:

1. New crossover cable
2. Or once I saw my settings were mysteriously back, i saved them as a brand new PROM file. Then I was able to successfully reload that new PROM file (see below).

That said, I have no idea how my settings were installed in the first place!? I never had a successful loading of the PROM file. Until I saved that new PROM file, I was never able to successfully fully upload any PROM file. Weird. Perhaps my original PROM file was not quite compatible with the latest software, but enough data was loaded before timing out because of newer data that was not part of the previous software??


*Got them in, looked at new features. Is default DTS LFE at -10 db??
LL
post #1585 of 2083
'sorry I couldn't help on this one, Jeff- I've been out of town for the weekend with the wife.

and actually unplugged from the world!!

I'm glad to see that things are back to normal for you. Did you ever receive word from ADA? I've been wondering about the way your RTI XP-8 is sending rs-232 commands via ethernet cable to the Rhapsody: shouldn't that really be converted by an adaptor somehow? Does it (XP-8) actually send UDP commands? I was under the impression that device utilized Hex codes that were translated to serial.

Dan
post #1586 of 2083
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'sorry I couldn't help on this one, Jeff- I've been out of town for the weekend with the wife.

and actually unplugged from the world!!

I'm glad to see that things are back to normal for you. Did you ever receive word from ADA? I've been wondering about the way your RTI XP-8 is sending rs-232 commands via ethernet cable to the Rhapsody: shouldn't that really be converted by an adaptor somehow? Does it (XP-8) actually send UDP commands? I was under the impression that device utilized Hex codes that were translated to serial.

Dan

No problem. It's good to get off the grid. I learned quite a bit about the ADA this weekend (as I think others did as well). So, all good. I got my Sunday night movie in.

Really, everything was figured here on the forum. Friday the tech guy (Algis) and Richard were both out. I think it was a combination of things. I think ADA wonld've picked up on this if they reloaded my files on their bench. But there seem to be some discrepancies between older .c4p files and newer software.

Another tidbit is that the ADA defaults to TEQ ON (though neither ON or OFF are highlighted red when looking in the software after a reboot. This precludes volume control working via PC program or any serial / IR device. THis should be changed as if you fail to load a PROM or reset it, it'll make you crazy. Thanks Joel for that tidbit.

I did set up with the crossover cable in ISO-e and, unlike others (Mani), when I tried to connect via the PC software this morning without changing my ISO-e address / settings the PC software wouldn't boot up and show errors. Mani says he can switch between the crossover cable and plug into a router without changing ISO-e settings and fully control the unit via PC program. I cannot. I'd like to get back to a network connection, but for now I'm going to stick with the crossover cable. I'm going to plug back in tonight to make some changes but this was exhausting this weekend. I have 5 devices in my rack that I can connect to via PC. Most use USB / serial and I've never had so much trouble. Where is plug and play when you need it! But now that I am in, all should be stable. USB, to me, is still the preferred means to update products.

But I watched (finally) Mission Impossible 4 last night and WOW! What dynamics and low bass. The ADA may be a little busy in the set up but I was rewarded on the back end with big sound and incredible 7.1 effects!

MY RTI XP-8 sends serial commands via ethernet cable to the ADA bus. Not hex commands. You can get feedback as well via this set up (though I am not set up for it as there are no feedback drivers for the ADA Mach IV).

Thanks@!
post #1587 of 2083
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Originally Posted by thebland View Post


I don't know how it happened but it loaded. Thanks Mani!

It could've been:

1. New crossover cable
2. Or once I saw my settings were mysteriously back, i saved them as a brand new PROM file. Then I was able to successfully reload that new PROM file (see below).

That said, I have no idea how my settings were installed in the first place!? I never had a successful loading of the PROM file. Until I saved that new PROM file, I was never able to successfully fully upload any PROM file. Weird. Perhaps my original PROM file was not quite compatible with the latest software, but enough data was loaded before timing out because of newer data that was not part of the previous software??

*Got them in, looked at new features. Is default DTS LFE at -10 db??

Good to know its working
I haven't used the HDsuite for few months now . Mine is HDMI 1.4 version . From what I recall DTS LFE was -10db by default
post #1588 of 2083
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Originally Posted by mani View Post

Good to know its working
I haven't used the HDsuite for few months now . Mine is HDMI 1.4 version . From what I recall DTS LFE was -10db by default

OK. I left at -10 DB. THe bass on Mission IMpossible 4 (TRUE HD 7.1) was potent and loud. Reference track all the way.

Thanks again for everything Mani, Joel, and all others!
post #1589 of 2083
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Originally Posted by thebland View Post

OK. I left at -10 DB. THe bass on Mission IMpossible 4 (TRUE HD 7.1) was potent and loud. Reference track all the way.

Thanks again for everything Mani, Joel, and all others!

Jeff, good to see you got it sorted...great minds think alike as I too was watching Mission Impossible 4 last night and am just about to head to the theatre to finish it as the movie got interrupted when my stepson broke his hand in the middle of the movie...anyways, looking forward to the back half...
post #1590 of 2083
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Originally Posted by Joelc View Post

Jeff, good to see you got it sorted...great minds think alike as I too was watching Mission Impossible 4 last night and am just about to head to the theatre to finish it as the movie got interrupted when my stepson broke his hand in the middle of the movie...anyways, looking forward to the back half...

Thanks! We didn't finish it either. Going in later this week to finish. I went into the set up today and all still works!
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