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post #1741 of 2083
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Originally Posted by michelmia View Post

My home theater is now finished and have been enjoying movies for about a month now. All my equipment was programmed/setup by my custom installer.
The Oppo is wired via HDMI to my Runco DHD4 and then from the Runco HDMI audio out to the ADA Mach 4B.
If I set the Oppo for bittstream or LPCM I get different results with the ADA. If I use bittstream the DTS logo appears on the ADA display. LPCM I don't get the DTS logo.
When playing 7.1 DTS-HD blu rays I never get the DTS-HD logo on my ADA to light up. Only DTS. When I try using direct 7.1 It still doesn not light up and it looks like only 5.1 is coming in. The Oppo clearly shows the DTS-HD logo on the display.
Can anyone shed light on this?
thanks
Michel

LPCM means the player is decoding so you won't get a 'DTS Decoding' light on the ADA or any Processor when using LPCM. If you are bitstreaming from the Oppo the ADA should correctly detect that so I suggest you check the HDMI settings on the Oppo, I am not familiar with it but there may be some downsampling settings or something about outputting the Core signal?

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post #1742 of 2083
thanks when I use bittstream (no decoding by the Oppo) I do get the DTS logo but not DTS-HD.

Do any of you get the DTS-HD symbol?
post #1743 of 2083
looks like my problem may be "secondary audio" on the Oppo which is set to on.

When using the "On" setting, the secondary audio track is mixed into the main soundtrack so both can be heard. If you do this, the combined audio soundtrack output is converted to standard Dolby Digital or DTS output.

I will try seting to off tonight and see if that makes a difference
post #1744 of 2083
well it turns out the Oppo and "secondary audio" were the culprits. With it turned off and the hdmi set to bitstream everything works great.

7.1 direct shows all seven incoming channels on the left and all seven on the right going to my 7.3 setup.

the only bluray that did not show 7.1 coming in was Tron. It shows 5.1
post #1745 of 2083
Strange but during a demo for friends tonight, my ADA reset itself during a high volume, highly dynamic scene from a demo clip. It shut down (Amps on trigger powered down) and then quickly restarted.

Nott sure what that was about but I'm not happy that the preamp is telling me what my max level of sound is. If it happens again, I'll need to send it in. I tried to repeat it at even higher levels (+3) but it did not occur.

Maybe an oddball thing but I've never had any preamp reset itself ever, regardless of the volume level.

Anyone else?
post #1746 of 2083
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Originally Posted by thebland View Post

Strange but during a demo for friends tonight, my ADA reset itself during a high volume, highly dynamic scene from a demo clip. It shut down (Amps on trigger powered down) and then quickly restarted.
Nott sure what that was about but I'm not happy that the preamp is telling me what my max level of sound is. If it happens again, I'll need to send it in. I tried to repeat it at even higher levels (+3) but it did not occur.
Are you running it off a UPS? If not, might be worth a try. A $50 APC is all it takes.
post #1747 of 2083
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Originally Posted by thebland View Post

Strange but during a demo for friends tonight, my ADA reset itself during a high volume, highly dynamic scene from a demo clip. It shut down (Amps on trigger powered down) and then quickly restarted.
Nott sure what that was about but I'm not happy that the preamp is telling me what my max level of sound is. If it happens again, I'll need to send it in. I tried to repeat it at even higher levels (+3) but it did not occur.
Maybe an oddball thing but I've never had any preamp reset itself ever, regardless of the volume level.
Anyone else?
Mine's reset itself a couple of times, once when on but not playing anything, the other time at a beginning of a film, this wasn't a loud scene. It has not done this since firmware upgrade.
What mine has done recently is when checking the levels, produces very high white noise level through the left channel only, almost to twitter frying volume. A factory reset is required to fix this. I am hoping this is due to me disconnecting parts of my kit whilst hunting down ground loop hum. Ground loop sorted, so only time will tell.
post #1748 of 2083
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Originally Posted by Roger Dressler View Post

Are you running it off a UPS? If not, might be worth a try. A $50 APC is all it takes.

Power related? I do have the ADA on a line with a 20 amp Equitech Isolation Transformer. I know it's not a UPS, but still not stable enough?

I have the latest software.
Thanks.
post #1749 of 2083
Thebland, when will you get a Casablanca III HD again to make an A/B comparison with the rhapsody?
Edited by Grifo - 8/11/12 at 9:14am
post #1750 of 2083
I was getting this issue a few times with my old suite 7.1hd. It turned out the dealer set it up with the wrong software for the dsp release.

Check with your dealer or indeed Ada that you have the correct software revision for the dsp firmware.

Once I factory defaulted the machine and used the correct software all those issues went away.

Since I have purchased my crm4 which is def with the right software I have had no issues what so ever.

The times I found the suite7.1hd would crash and reset was when flicking between 96k and 192k blu rays.
post #1751 of 2083
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Originally Posted by thebland View Post

Power related? I do have the ADA on a line with a 20 amp Equitech Isolation Transformer. I know it's not a UPS, but still not stable enough?
My assumption is that it was related with the high level playback, thus drawing high peak current from the AC. Even if that was not the cause, it's still a good idea to run the processor off a UPS in case a short AC glitch comes along. Who knows what manner of mode that could induce, and its consequences once amplified by a lot of power amps. And if you have a DVR in the vicinity, that should be on the UPS as well.
post #1752 of 2083
I agree with Roger- I think it's related to the volume and the draw from the amps.

Dan
post #1753 of 2083
Worth a try. All outlets in my equipment room. are balanced power. Are there UPS models that can safely plug into balanced power outlets?

Make, model?

Thanks guys!
post #1754 of 2083
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Originally Posted by thebland View Post

Worth a try. All outlets in my equipment room. are balanced power. Are there UPS models that can safely plug into balanced power outlets?
I cannot see why that would matter at all.
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Make, model?
I've been using these smaller APC units for years. 3 running in the house right now. Could never justify spending more. Remember, you are not looking for much time, just sufficient power for < one minute.
post #1755 of 2083
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Originally Posted by thebland View Post

Worth a try. All outlets in my equipment room. are balanced power. Are there UPS models that can safely plug into balanced power outlets?
Make, model?
Thanks guys!

I am using a Richard grays UPS 22 with balanced power. works very well.
post #1756 of 2083
Am having audio loss when using my satelite receiver. I have a Bell Expressvu hd receiver going into my runco dhd4 video scaler and then to the
ADA. When watching regular non hd programming everything is fine. As soon as I switch to an hd channel I get intermittent sound loss for a fraction of a second.
Every 30 to 90 second the sound goes off then back on.

Any thoughts? Everything else works fine, bluray player, etc...
post #1757 of 2083
What is the processor? Mach 4 Rhapsody, Suite 7.1HD or the Mach 3 generation?

It sounds like there's an HDCP issue between the scaler and the ADA (assuming HDMI goes from source to scaler to audio processor).

Dan
post #1758 of 2083
It is a mach iv. Yes HDMI from source to scaler to mach iv. It's odd that the bluray works fine and that non hd source on the sat box are okay. How can I troubleshoot this problem?
post #1759 of 2083
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Originally Posted by michelmia View Post

It is a mach iv. Yes HDMI from source to scaler to mach iv. It's odd that the bluray works fine and that non hd source on the sat box are okay. How can I troubleshoot this problem?

Try routing the audio without using HDMI. Get a pair of analog stereo cables or a optical cable. Select audio from analog or SPDIF outs in the ADA and see if the audio issues still persist.

I think Dan is right and it's the SAT box.
post #1760 of 2083
Yes indeed it is the SAT box. Looks like it is a well known problem with that particular model. The fix so far is to reset the SAT box. Will try using non HDMI if it happens again.
post #1761 of 2083
Is anyone using the. Mach IV with a Kaleidescape 3U server and M 700 player? Can you let me know if it works well and any thoughts on the Kaleidescape would be appreciated. I am considering this addition to my system.
post #1762 of 2083
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Originally Posted by thebland View Post

Strange but during a demo for friends tonight, my ADA reset itself during a high volume, highly dynamic scene from a demo clip. It shut down (Amps on trigger powered down) and then quickly restarted.
Nott sure what that was about but I'm not happy that the preamp is telling me what my max level of sound is. If it happens again, I'll need to send it in. I tried to repeat it at even higher levels (+3) but it did not occur.
Maybe an oddball thing but I've never had any preamp reset itself ever, regardless of the volume level.
Anyone else?

Well mine reset itself last night for no reason. Having listened to a lot of music and played a few film clips, decided to watch a film, I pressed play on my popcornhour and the ADA shut itself down, then restarted.

After this there where no more problems...
post #1763 of 2083
We have had this setup in our demo room for 9 months and it works like a charm..

Make sure you get the 3 gig drives with your 3U server.

We also use the Kaliedescape Ipad app and the Savant control system to operate it.

Let me know if you need any additional information

Jim
post #1764 of 2083
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Originally Posted by magicj1 View Post

Mine's reset itself a couple of times, once when on but not playing anything, the other time at a beginning of a film, this wasn't a loud scene. It has not done this since firmware upgrade.
What mine has done recently is when checking the levels, produces very high white noise level through the left channel only, almost to twitter frying volume. A factory reset is required to fix this. I am hoping this is due to me disconnecting parts of my kit whilst hunting down ground loop hum. Ground loop sorted, so only time will tell.

What firmware release did you have prior, and what are you up to now? Also what was the ground loop culprit?
post #1765 of 2083
firmware is only updated by ADA at their facility- it is not user update-able, not even dealer update-able for that matter.

unless shipped back to ADA, the firmware stays the same.

Dan
post #1766 of 2083
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Originally Posted by DanFrancis View Post

firmware is only updated by ADA at their facility- it is not user update-able, not even dealer update-able for that matter.
unless shipped back to ADA, the firmware stays the same.
Dan

Yes I know, I am a dealer. I have had an experience with a unit shutting down and am curious on the relationship with the firmware release.
post #1767 of 2083
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Originally Posted by facesnorth View Post

What firmware release did you have prior, and what are you up to now? Also what was the ground loop culprit?

Prior I was on 'Release 2.03', now 'Release 3.1'

I connected a UPS to mine on Friday as suggested, will see how this goes.
post #1768 of 2083
Using IRule on my iPad to control the ADA, I can see which PEQ I am using and when it is ON, but when OFF this is not displayed on my Ipad. Is this the case for everyone else using iRule?

Also, is it possible to see which 'Balance Recall' is being used?
Edited by magicj1 - 8/19/12 at 2:37am
post #1769 of 2083
Hey guys,

Within a week of deciding between the crm4, theta cb3hd, or bryston.

Anybody compare these directly for Home Heater?

I read many of the pages here, and I see a reference to audessy EQ. Does the crm4 have audessy (sp)?

Thanks all.

Stieger
post #1770 of 2083
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Originally Posted by stieger View Post

Hey guys,
Within a week of deciding between the crm4, theta cb3hd, or bryston.
Anybody compare these directly for Home Heater?
I read many of the pages here, and I see a reference to audessy EQ. Does the crm4 have audessy (sp)?
Thanks all.
Stieger

The crm4 has the possibility of adding the ADA Trinnov EQ, then again since it is a stand alone unit I guess the others can have it added on as well. Trinnov is the only EQ available the does spatial remapping which IMO is worth the price of admission. Audyssey XT32 is a better EQ overall but does not have spatial remapping which corrects for speaker placement and makes it that you are no longer listening to your speakers, but rather a wall of sound that envelops you.

I know the cb3hd will be adding Dirac live but I have not heard it to comment on that. I don't believe Dirac live does spatial remapping though, that would be a deal breaker for me.

I hear Trinnov will be introducing a new processor at Cedia which should ship in a couple of months. The price is not known yet but you might want to wait until the Cedia announcement before pulling the trigger.
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