ADA Mach 4......WOW!!!! - Page 33

I would get your dealer to sort this out, I believe different firmware versions may only work with certain versions of the software. Also it is easy to screw things up if you don't know what you are doing.

You can download the Suite 7.1 HD manual here which covers most stuff but I would leave the IP stuff for the dealer, especially as it isn't your unit

http://www.livedigital.co.uk/2010/06...uite-7-1-hd/6/

Adam

Interesting this thread has died off [kinda a like me the past 3+ months]. I guess the Dirac is the new hot rock SSP.

What's a Dirac?

You know for most of us, it just does what it's supposed to do. Nothing really to post. Just enjoying it. Active threads are typically anticipation or problems.

The ADA is all good.

For similar reasons, I rarely post in the ISCO thread, Lumis thread or Denon Blu Ray thread.

+1...I too am very happy with my ADA unit...

Agree with the two posts above.

The ADA was a great purchase for me replacing my wonderful sounding but unreliable Halcro with the user interface from hell.

At present, I wouldn't consider any change regardless of what becomes avaialble because I suspect any minimal improvement wouldn't be worth the cost.

I just wish they had more dealers and or had some demo units. I was unwilling to buy without an in home demo or at least seeing it in a display room. Neither was available in the Denver area for at least 3 to 5 months. I think it an easier to use pre/pro than the Anthem. Once I figured out the quirks it has been very good to me, but I had high hopes for the ADA.

The ADA has been great. I too wish there was a dealer in my area since I had to do all setup on my own, and got no discount for it. But I love the sound. My only complaints are the control program doesn't do Win7 64, and Trinnov isn't free!

Win 7 has an XP mode. Put onto that and you should be good. Another poster had a similar issue. Try it and post back.

HD Suite works fine on Win7 x64 for me now, I didn't have to use any compatibility modes either.

Do you get the infamous Type Mismatch error when you run it?

I fixed mine by downloading the latest LAN driver for my PC (not from windows update).

Also worth trying re-installing the .net framework.

Adam

Has a F/W fix been issued for thee items?


Is PLIIx working on everything now?

As far as I know these have all been fixed on the HDMI 1.4 units but I haven't heard anything about a firmware update for HDMI 1.4 units yet. The fact they use different hardware means it isn't a case of just using the same firmware on both units.

I too am 'patiently' waiting for this but I suggest you nag Richard at ADA if you are equally keen to iron out these last few issues.

Adam

The PLIIx fix is the discussed "firmware fix" which is via a new chip...the PLIIx fix, based on my testing, works perfectly...

Based on feedback here, I'll try Win7 again with your suggestions. Before, even with XP mode it was no go. Thanks.

I have been struggling with win7 as well , off and on for more than a month. I did install XP mode . The program installs fine and I can even control some parameters , but dont get any feed back . I tried all possible combinations of IP addresses / Sub net masks etc. Even entered the port numbers in TCP/Ip settings and manually opened them with no success. I found 10 year old desktop sitting in my closet with windows XP and connected it to the ADA and loaded the software and it worked like a charm in 30 seconds. I used a crossover cable to connect desktop to ADA and didn't have to run ISO program or change any settings whatsoever . Everything works like a charm. I did try updating the LAN driver and re installing .NET framework. I even installed win7 from scratch with no other programs intalled to make sure nothing elese was interfering , but no success. So I have come to the conclusion that the ADA software was meant for XP. It works inconsistently in XP mode on a Win7 machine ( I guess it depends on laptop/PC configuration , as it does seem to work for some folks here). But to save all that headache best thing is to get a XP machine and be done with it.
I have connected the old desktops VGA output to my Sim2 host and am using Gyration RF air mouse and keybosrd. So everything is in the equipment room and I can sit down in theater and make all changes with vsual display on my 172" wide screen from my wireless keyboard and air mouse. Wish I had done this sooner and saved all these hours .
I think ADA is needs to move on to win7 . They just need to spend more time and effort in their software part. I have bought several receivers , TV's , DVD players with ethernet ports and even $200 DVD player connects to network flawlessly in seconds.
I will get the professional callibration done which my dealer is arranging in next couple of weeks and see how much difference it makes. My dealer has XP laptop and obviously he can connect fine with ADA's.
YOu can buy some rfurb XP laptops for less than $300 on net or get Win XP Cd and dual boot your laptop.
Hope this helps

Thanks
Mani

I would call ADA> There may be a setting somewhere (be it in Win7 or the ADA) to enable feedback for WIN7...

Have you set your control PC to a fixed IP address? Feedback and the PEQ software require that to work AFAIK or at least that is what I have been told (I don't actually do this anymore). There is also the question of whether you have the correct cable type either direct or via a switch (crossover/straight etc.)

I actually have feedback working fine in Win7 x86 and x64 via a switch so I don't think it is an OS problem.

I will say though, early on when I got the ADA I too was having loads of problems getting things to work, whether it was XP, Win7 or whatever so I do sympathise and if I could put my finger on your problem I would but it was quite while back and even on recent PC rebuilds with Fresh OS Win7 x64 installs it just works right off the bat.

You have to rememeber these products aren't designed with end users in mind. If you want to bypass the home installation to save some cash, then you have to be prepared for the consequences. I can assure you a trained installer won't be having any of these issues

Adam

Yes I tried fixed IP addresses on both laptop and Ada. I tried connecting through switch with a cat6 cable, tried connecting directly with crossover cable... With same results . In win 7 I can't even start the ADA software ... It gives error unless I go into xp mode . I understand it's not meant for end users ,and I am not saving cash either as I am getting professional calibration done, but I just want the ability to change settings and have my own presets as I feel necessary along the way as I listen more to my music/movie collection

Hmm, the only other things that spring to mind you probably already tried:

UAC mode off
Windows Firewall off

Finally it might be worth checking your settings on your router?

I'll go through some old emails when I was having issues and see if I can find any other clues as to how I got over my own problems.

Adam

To clarify my posts, I dont want to dissuade anyone from buying ADA machIV. It is a great processor and with utmost flexibility . The fact that connecting to the network is the only problem we are complaining about says a lot about the functionality and sound quality, as there are not any hot threads on those lines. The customer support is excellent as well. Richard has been very responsive to my dealer whenever I have any question or issue.

I did go under advanced setting to open the UDP ports specified in ISO while in XP mode in win7 - didnt make a difference. I havent tried that in Win 7 itself. And as stated in my previous post I did do a clean install of win 7 on my laptop with nop other program running whatsoever - no antivirus/ firewall was off . My router settings are pretty generic- it is a linksys router connected to cisco switches with 192.168.1.1 as default gateway and no restrictions or exceptions in the settings. One peculiar thing that I had noticed in win XP mode under win 7 is that the IP address of network card would be 192.168.131.65 and on same laptop the IP address of same network card in win7 mode is 192.168.1.139 . I did try changing the address to 192.168.1.xxx for both laptop and ADA in XP mode and vice versa to 192.168.131.xxx and chaged default gateways accordingly . And abviously I tried connecting directly via crossover cable with no routers/switches invloved.
At this point I am happy with XP setup as everything connects and works as it should and I can start listening to the processor rather than spending time on connecting to it. I want to have a working and stable laptop/PC connected to ADA to have professional callibration so I dont have to call dealer/callibrater everytime I want to make changes or add presets depending on my movie/Cd collection- doesnt make sense to me, may be some folks prefer that route. I only have 1-2 weekends free a month, and if I am watching a movie and want to tinker with settings etc, I dont want to wait to set up appointment with the callibrater when I am free again and then watch the movie few weeks /month later with the desired sound when i can do it in 5 minutes if I am connected.

I'll post my ISO settings next time I'm in front on my PC, maybe it'll help.

I totally get where you are at and what you want, I bought mine without an installer and had to work it out for myself before they even wrote the manual (literally), so have been through a lot of frustration too.

I have to say I adore my preamp though now I am through that period and the flexibility and control available is unlike anything I have owned before, oh and it does sound amazing even if it is 'only' the Suite 7.1 HD.

I hope you get it working how you want

Adam

Boy, no issues coming from XP on my Mac. No issues with direct LAN connection for iRule remote and feedback (beta). Hopefully Win7 isn't Vista II!! OT: I don't get the whole PC thing when there are Macs available.

No problems here either...I did however have to change a few of the settings in the ISO-E to get things working...most noticeable among them was my broadcast address which was hit and miss...

Obviously your settings will be different but maybe this will help somehow...

ISO Network Settings

Selected Ethernet Card: 192.168.1.15

IP: 192.168.1.70
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Broadcast: 192.168.1.255

I think the Broadcast address is the one where some people come unstuck.

OT: I don't get the whole Mac thing when there a PCs available.

Adam

I found the broadcast address to be a problem with my Crestron system...it took a lot of trial and error but eventually the correct setting was found..




+1

Just an update ... I got a new XP professional very cheap locally from craiglist and installed it on my Lenovo laptop runnig win 7 , 64 bit and I am now dual booting that laptop. Everything works perfectly while booting from windows XP and connecting to ADA with crossover cable directly. I dont have to run ISO software , dont have to change any setting whatsoever. I had restored ADA to factory default and after starting XP , there was no problem connecting with full functioanlity and feedback with default settings on both laptop and ADA. So if anyone is interested and doesnt want to go through the headache and uncertainty of changing the network settings , this may be the smoothest way.
I was not able to get any feedback when I connected through the same laptop with same crossover cable in XP mode under win7. At least in my laptop the ADA software wont even start in Win7 - gives some comm error - cant remeber the exact error name. I dont know if UDA ports are not enabled. But whatever the reason , this is the best solution for me .... just thought some one may be interested.

Mani

Anyone try out the Trinnov yet?

Has anyone tried Windows Server over IP to the ADA series...?
I assume that this wouldn't be nearly an issue as Win7
I have a lappy running win7 64 but it seems not to be the most popular choices in over the network control..... Remote login to my network server is just as simple as remote with lappy over wifi - seems it would be a logical way of overcoming this obstacle..

At any rate - as an owner of a Anthem D2v, I was interested in something more HANDS ON with respect to control in the EQ realm.... I do have the Subwoofer/LFE EQ control part well in hand, but I'd like the ability to work my own EQ measurement/control on my own without relying on a computer to make my decisions for me....

Any thoughts or incite in this thought process would be a great help...

@ the bland -

How has your subwoofer upgrade come along, I have yet to hear of what you chose for your final implementation..

The parametric eq built into the Rhapsody performs just like the parametric eqs from popular DSP engines: pick a center frequency, pick a bandwidth, and pick the level of necessary attenuation or boost. 12 bands per channel for the mains (all 7) and 8 bands for the sub.

I've heard that there's a glitch with the sub-level eq causing some kind of noise- I've never experienced it because all my sub-level eq is done by outboard DSPs.

Very powerful tool for those that have the tools and experience necessary to tune. It certainly feels more to me like something that came from the pro side of the world than something that came from home theater.

My demo unit is due in the next production run, so if you'd like to play with one, you're welcome to come see it (once I have it installed, you can play to your hearts content and I can just reload my file and we're back up and running).

Dan