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post #1261 of 2187
2/10/10 at 6:43am
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

How does anyone know if DS is actually doing any DBTs at all?

They don't, Bill. Despite repeated requests for substantive information about the measurements and DBT's which TUC claims, on their website, to make, Mr. S. has thus far refused to respond other than to dismiss the value of his own, claimed measurements(!).

Until TUC produces useful information, folks have good reason to be skeptical.
post #1262 of 2187
2/10/10 at 9:37am
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Originally Posted by edwyun View Post

Actually, it's 22.05kHz, but your point is well taken. You can measure it from a redbook CD but you won't be able to hear it.

I actually use the 2.2 sample rate Nyquest rule myself too.
post #1263 of 2187
2/10/10 at 10:02am
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Originally Posted by edwyun View Post

In any event, just enjoy the music.

Huh?

You mean "just enjoy the equipment" don't you? Nobody here listens to the music; music is just a means to an end, which is the quest for audiophile nirvana, no matter the cost, no matter the tin foil. Enjoy the music? That's just crazy talk...
post #1264 of 2187
2/10/10 at 12:06pm
I probably have more of the Upgrade Company products than anyone else at this point. Additionally, I am one of a small number of individuals that has taken a trip (3 times now) to the Upgrade Company facilities.

In July of 2008 I had the opportunity to listen to a number of upgraded versus stock players made by amongst others Denon, McIntosh, Esoteric at the Upgrade Company facilities. I found that the Denon's and the McIntosh upgraded machines sounded better to my ear than the stock and quite possibly upgraded Esoteric single and 2 box players.

Ultimately I ended up purchasing an upgraded Denon 5910 which had many subsequent upgrades by David. This machine was generally used with an upgraded Lavry DA10 DAC.

I subsequently had the opportunity to listen to machines, stock and upgraded in June of 2008. Players that I had an opportunity to hear included those again by Denon, Linn, and several other makers. Again, to my ear, I preferred the performance of my upgraded Denon 5910 (which we further upgraded at the time) along with my upgraded Lavry DA10 DAC. At the time David thought that I could write off the Denon 5910 and the Lavry, but we found out that we could breath more life into the units.

My last visit was to the Upgrade Company Facilities when I picked up some Prototype speakers in January. At the same time, I had the opportunity to hear more upgraded items including those by Denon, the 2 box EMM Labs 25,000 SE unit with a $3,000 upgrade and an upgraded OPPO BDP-83SE. While there, we did the latest upgrades to my Denon 5910 and my Lavry DA10. When we listened to my shock and dismay, the upgraded OPPO BDP-83SE outperformed my upgraded Denon 5910 both with and without the Lavry for both CD and SACD playback. In addition to my ears the upgraded OPPO BDP-83SE may have sounded better than the upgraded EMM Labs 2 Box SE unit on CD and without a question it sounded better than the EMM labs unit for SACD. My upgraded Denon 5910 both naked and with the Lavry were close to the upgraded EMM Labs unit for CD, but the Denon sounded better for SACD.

I decided during this session to place an order for an upgraded OPPO BDP-83SE NuForce Edition Blu-ray player. I have received the unit not that long ago and believe that it may be the best sounding CD/SACD?DVD-A player that I have ever heard to this point for 2 channel playback (stock or upgraded/modified). I am burning both this unit and the upgraded Lavry in but at this point I do not know whether the naked unit or the unit with the Lavry will sound better.

I have not had an opportunity to compare the performance of my upgraded OPPO BDP-83SE NuForce Edition with the modded Modwrght Oppo unit, but it would be an interesting comparison.

For those that think that what Dave Schulte does does not work, the only way to know is to hear it for yourself. If you do not wish to take a chance on an order, try to get together with someone that has a unit that has been upgraded and if you can, compare the performance with the same unit stock. You may also wish to compare the performance with many other more expensive stock or modified units if the opportunity exists.

For those that think that the work looks amateurish, that is a matter of opinion. I have a general idea of where David does his work in the machines and that the work is quite effective in improving the performance of the equipment. In addition, when using multiple upgraded components in the same system, there appears to be some sort of synergism where the equipment sounds better overall. This is much like the idea of using a system of components made by a single manufacturer.

I have a posted a photo of me in front of the EMM Labs 2 box unit, the upgraded Oppo, my upgraded Denon, my upgraded Lavry, and I believe a Linn unit that was taken when I last visited David in January.

Rich
LL
post #1265 of 2187
2/10/10 at 12:16pm
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Originally Posted by naturephoto1 View Post

I probably have more of the Upgrade Company products than anyone else at this point. Additionally, I am one of a small number of individuals that has taken a trip (3 times now) to the Upgrade Company facilities.

In July of 2008 I had the opportunity to listen to a number of upgraded versus stock players made by amongst others Denon, McIntosh, Esoteric at the Upgrade Company facilities. I found that the Denon's and the McIntosh upgraded machines sounded better to my ear than the stock and quite possibly upgraded Esoteric single and 2 box players.

Ultimately I ended up purchasing an upgraded Denon 5910 which had many subsequent upgrades by David. This machine was generally used with an upgraded Lavry DA10 DAC.

I subsequently had the opportunity to listen to machines, stock and upgraded in June of 2008. Players that I had an opportunity to hear included those again by Denon, Linn, and several other makers. Again, to my ear, I preferred the performance of my upgraded Denon 5910 (which we further upgraded at the time) along with my upgraded Lavry DA10 DAC. At the time David thought that I could write off the Denon 5910 and the Lavry, but we found out that we could breath more life into the units.

My last visit was to the Upgrade Company Facilities when I picked up some Prototype speakers in January. At the same time, I had the opportunity to hear more upgraded items including those by Denon, the 2 box EMM Labs 25,000 SE unit with a $3,000 upgrade and an upgraded OPPO BDP-83SE. While there, we did the latest upgrades to my Denon 5910 and my Lavry DA10. When we listened to my shock and dismay, the upgraded OPPO BDP-83SE outperformed my upgraded Denon 5910 both with and without the Lavry for both CD and SACD playback. In addition to my ears the upgraded OPPO BDP-83SE may have sounded better than the upgraded EMM Labs 2 Box SE unit on CD and without a question it sounded better than the EMM labs unit for SACD. My upgraded Denon 5910 both naked and with the Lavry were close to the upgraded EMM Labs unit for CD, but the Denon sounded better for SACD.

I decided during this session to place and order for an upgraded OPPO BDP-83SE NuForce Edition Blu-ray player. I have received the unit not that long ago and believe that it may be the best sounding CD/SACD?DVD-A player that I have ever heard to this point for 2 channel playback (stock or upgraded/modified). I am burning both this unit and the upgraded Lavry in but at this point I do not know whether the naked unit or the unit with the Lavry will sound better.

I have not had an opportunity to compare the performance of my upgraded OPPO BDP-83SE NuForce Edition with the modded Modwrght Oppo unit, but it would be an interesting comparison.

For those that think that what Dave Schulte does does not work, the only way to know is to hear it for yourself. If you do not wish to take a chance on an order, try to get together with someone that has a unit that has been upgraded and if you can, compare the performance with the same unit stock. You may also wish to compare the performance with many other more expensive stock or modified units if the opportunity exists.

For those that think that the work looks amateurish, that is a matter of opinion. I have a general idea of where David does his work in the machines and that the work is quite effective in improving the performance of the equipment. In addition, when using multiple upgraded components in the same system, there appears to be some sort of synergism where the equipment sounds better overall. This is much like the idea of using a system of components made by a single manufacturer.

I have a posted a photo of me in front of the EMM Labs 2 box unit, the upgraded Oppo, my upgraded Denon, my upgraded Lavry, and I believe a Linn unit that was taken when I last visited David in January.

Rich

Hi Rich,

Better prepare yourself for the ""measurement clan""

That´s a nice setup you have/ had.

Really curious about the Nuforce Signature edition.
post #1266 of 2187
2/10/10 at 12:24pm
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Originally Posted by denon a1xva View Post

Hi Rich,

Better prepare yourself for the ""measurement clan""

That´s a nice setup you have/ had.

Really curious about the Nuforce Signature edition.

I am expecting the worst and really did not want to reply at all having had some bad experiences on this forum in the past.

Rich
post #1267 of 2187
2/10/10 at 12:50pm
Why do you guys accept Dave's claims that he tests his "mods" using several methods that do NOT involve listeners and yet when those of us in the professional audio industry ask for test details and methods you all claim (against Daves silence) that no measurement can quantify the improvements?
post #1268 of 2187
2/10/10 at 1:10pm
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Originally Posted by Gizmologist View Post

Why do you guys accept Dave's claims that he tests his "mods" using several methods that do NOT involve listeners and yet when those of us in the professional audio industry ask for test details and methods you all claim (against Daves silence) that no measurement can quantify the improvements?

Hi Gizmologist,

For myself, I did not even consider this data. I did not see it on Dave's site, and I did not look for it. I was more interested in the testimonials, not just in his website, but in forums like this one. The 7 day return policy made me feel a little more at ease with the initial risk. With this policy, I was able to find out for myself if the mods were an improvement, based upon "my" standards.

Regarding your questions to Dave and Dave's silence:

a. Dave posted (post #921) in this thread that he would prefer to answer questions via email, rather than on this forum.
b. You refuse to email Dave.

Looks like it just won't happen, given the above. It seems obvious to me, you either email him or you don't expect your questions to be answered.


Dave
post #1269 of 2187
2/10/10 at 1:10pm
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Originally Posted by Gizmologist View Post

Why do you guys accept Dave's claims that he tests his "mods" using several methods that do NOT involve listeners and yet when those of us in the professional audio industry ask for test details and methods you all claim (against Daves silence) that no measurement can quantify the improvements?

To the best of my knowledge David uses both listeners as well as some testing methods for the mods. I really do not have any information regarding the instrument testing. However, there may also be things that we hear that we either are not measuring for or do not know what and why we are hearing what we are hearing. That is we may not know what needs to be measured to monitor changes. It is much like the idea for those that believe that cables can sound different but we can not find measurements to demonstrate what we claim to hear.

Rich
post #1270 of 2187
2/10/10 at 1:31pm
wow this thread just goes on and on ...and I am gonna help
post #1271 of 2187
2/10/10 at 3:36pm
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Originally Posted by thezaks View Post

Regarding your questions to Dave and Dave's silence:

a. Dave posted (post #921) in this thread that he would prefer to answer questions via email, rather than on this forum.
b. You refuse to email Dave.

Looks like it just won't happen, given the above. It seems obvious to me, you either email him or you don't expect your questions to be answered.


Well.... If DS can come here to spout off in front of everyone, then he should also come here to answer questions in front of everyone!
post #1272 of 2187
2/10/10 at 4:04pm
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Originally Posted by naturephoto1 View Post

I am expecting the worst and really did not want to reply at all having had some bad experiences on this forum in the past.
Rich

Good to see you around, Rich.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gizmologist View Post

Why do you guys accept Dave's claims that he tests his "mods" using several methods that do NOT involve listeners and yet when those of us in the professional audio industry ask for test details and methods you all claim (against Daves silence) that no measurement can quantify the improvements?

I don't really care how he develops his mods (or what they are); its the end result that counts.

I expect some of the familiar measurements like distortion, bandwidth, noise and jitter are actually improved by the mods, but I'm sure they weren't the primary objectives.

Did anyone ever decide to buy an SSP800 because it had 0.003% less THD+D than the A1HD?

Nick
post #1273 of 2187
2/10/10 at 4:18pm
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Originally Posted by Johnla View Post

Well.... If DS can come here to spout off in front of everyone, then he should also come here to answer questions in front of everyone!

Very true. The one question I had that DS would not answer is why he accused Dan Wright of posting under a different user name. When someone does that without proof or a reply for the thoughts behind it has no credibility here or anywhere IMO.

Bill
post #1274 of 2187
2/10/10 at 4:21pm
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Originally Posted by naturephoto1 View Post

I am expecting the worst and really did not want to reply at all having had some bad experiences on this forum in the past.

Rich, your first post on this forum was in promotion of TUC, as were your first posts at Audiogon, Audio Circles and Blu-ray.com, where you continue to promote TUC to this day. That sort of behavior causes folks to wonder about the nature of your apparent zeal. Some amount of bad behavior aside, your earlier experience here is to be expected, considering the dearth of actual evidence of any sonic improvement vs. simple expectation bias. Unless and until Mr. S. provides the measured data he claims to utilize in developing his mods and/or adequate details of his alleged DBT sessions, folks here will remain skeptical, as they should.

Quote:
Originally Posted by thezaks View Post

a. Dave posted (post #921) in this thread that he would prefer to answer questions via email, rather than on this forum.
b. You refuse to email Dave.

Looks like it just won't happen, given the above. It seems obvious to me, you either email him or you don't expect your questions to be answered.

Which is, frankly, ridiculous. The fact that Mr. S. appears at will to make claims of improvements, but is unwilling to publically respond to consequent hard questions is absurd and there's no reasonable defense for it. If he won't (or can't) do the latter, then he shouldn't do the former.
post #1275 of 2187
2/10/10 at 4:38pm
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Originally Posted by thezaks View Post

Hi Gizmologist,

For myself, I did not even consider this data. I did not see it on Dave's site, and I did not look for it. I was more interested in the testimonials, not just in his website, but in forums like this one. The 7 day return policy made me feel a little more at ease with the initial risk. With this policy, I was able to find out for myself if the mods were an improvement, based upon "my" standards.

Regarding your questions to Dave and Dave's silence:

a. Dave posted (post #921) in this thread that he would prefer to answer questions via email, rather than on this forum.
b. You refuse to email Dave.

Looks like it just won't happen, given the above. It seems obvious to me, you either email him or you don't expect your questions to be answered.


Dave

This is a FORUM which DS has participated more than several times but when he is under pressure or doesn't want to give an answer to a question he always falls back on the same old "email me" answer. So what's the deal? DS can come on and post anything he wants but for someone to ask him a question they have to email him? That's very odd, doesn't make much sense, other than he's hiding something or wants that recording. And I don't want to hear that he doesn't have the time to answer questions on the forums. If he has time to come on this forum and rant and rave about his products then he has time to answer a few simple questions. And why do DS's cheerleaders always have to speak for DS? Does DS impart that much knowlege about his business practices and products to all his customers? By the way DS, did you ever dish out some of your HARD earned money to get a printer?
post #1276 of 2187
2/10/10 at 4:55pm
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Originally Posted by BWG707 View Post

This is a FORUM which DS has participated more than several times but when he is under pressure or doesn't want to give an answer to a question he always falls back on the same old "email me" answer. So what's the deal? DS can come on and post anything he wants but for someone to ask him a question they have to email him? That's very odd, doesn't make much sense, other than he's hiding something or wants that recording. And I don't want to hear that he doesn't have the time to answer questions on the forums. If he has time to come on this forum and rant and rave about his products then he has time to answer a few simple questions. And why do DS's cheerleaders always have to speak for DS? Does DS impart that much knowlege about his business practices and products to all his customers? By the way DS, did you ever dish out some of your HARD earned money to get a printer?

Hi BWG707,

If you're referring to my comments as cheerleading, then you could not be more wrong. I have not at all stated whether or not I agree with David's choice to have folks email him. I am just being factual. If you want to ask questions, there's apparently only one way to do it. That's all.

If folks like you want to continue to whine, complain, and speculate, that's your prerogative. To me, it's just wasted bandwidth.

BTW, I don't speak for DS - I speak for myself.

Dave
post #1277 of 2187
2/10/10 at 5:05pm
I remember when i first called TUC and Dave gave me your # Rich...yes you praised him then tried to convince me to buy your 885 pre/pro,but you did not technically know alot,well considering Dave did not know much about 12v triggers told me not to deal with him anymore,hence thats why my non working DV-9600 went to a local shop....Yes it is all frustrating but watching Dave come on here with his little hissy fits is no surprise.......Just give the boys some answers Dave.........You cannot use this board as advertising without answers.
post #1278 of 2187
2/10/10 at 6:06pm
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Originally Posted by RUR View Post

Rich, your first post on this forum was in promotion of TUC, as were your first posts at Audiogon, Audio Circles and Blu-ray.com, where you continue to promote TUC to this day. That sort of behavior causes folks to wonder about the nature of your apparent zeal. Some amount of bad behavior aside, your earlier experience here is to be expected, considering the dearth of actual evidence of any sonic improvement vs. simple expectation bias.

Actually, you are in error. I had posted previously on Audio Circles years prior prior to my posting about the Upgrade Company and Dave Schulte. I have never posted about David and the Upgrade Company on Audiogon with the exception of asking a question about the performance of his upgrades in a thread prior to the receipt of my first Upgrade Company purchase. I had made posts on both forums prior to that, I just had not made many posts prior to that. And in fact on both Audio Circles and also on Audiogon my posts had to do with my rebuilt Dahlquist DQ-10 speakers through the help of Steve (who I believe is deceased) of Layne Audio and Teres Turntables and dealing with Chris Brady who in fact did sell, install, and help me move the turntable that he built for me. Nick had made the suggestion that post about my upgrades that led to my first postings at AVS. Perhaps it was an error to introduce myself to the forum in this way, but I was only following Nick's suggestion and invitation. As to the zeal, that exists that I discuss on Blu-ray.com it is only because of how pleased I am with the performance of the equipment that I own. There is no other reason.

Rich
post #1279 of 2187
2/10/10 at 6:14pm
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Originally Posted by mclsound View Post

I remember when i first called TUC and Dave gave me your # Rich...yes you praised him then tried to convince me to buy your 885 pre/pro,but you did not technically know alot,well considering Dave did not know much about 12v triggers told me not to deal with him anymore,hence thats why my non working DV-9600 went to a local shop....Yes it is all frustrating but watching Dave come on here with his little hissy fits is no surprise.......Just give the boys some answers Dave.........You cannot use this board as advertising without answers.

You lost me. I never tried to sell you or anyone else my upgraded Onkyo 885. I am not and never have tried to sell my machine. You may have called me and I may have spoken with you about the performance of my machine and indicated how pleased I was with its performance. I may have recommend that you purchase a machine, but I do not have the technical information about the machine. I do however know how well that it performs.

Rich
post #1280 of 2187
2/10/10 at 6:25pm
All the pro TUC posters are on the payroll and have to keep trying to persuade others like the usual pyramid scheme.

Honestly guys, if you saw a bunch of wadded up tin foil and blue paint slathered all over a 10,000 CD player are you seriously claiming that it does not bother you that NO electronic mods with documentation have been made?

Look at the pics of the other mods. The work is first class and actually IS part of the circuit. The additional boards are properly built, mounted and harnessed.

For me, once you cross a specification threshold of what I can hear or not hear, then I have achieved audio nirvana. I listen to the music, I don't sit around and admire the claimed performance improvements with zero documentation.

Since TUC forbids opening the unit, how do you know ANYTHING has been added?

If I told you I could dramatically improve the sound quality of any unit for 1500.00 would you just blindly give me the money? If so, I can tell you for REAL that I can change the performance for the better of any unit with an amplifier or preamp. BAR NONE. I do not need schematics either.

I am telling you the truth.

Notice I said "change the performance" All that is necessary is for me to slightly increase the output level- nothing more. My work actually entails changing a part or setting and I will document it for you.

I will provide the part number, the schematic symbol number, the manufacturer and the retail cost.

Want to give it a go?

I have been in the professional audio visual field for 40+ years. Probably longer than DS has been alive.
post #1281 of 2187
2/10/10 at 6:35pm
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Originally Posted by Gizmologist View Post

All the pro TUC posters are on the payroll and have to keep trying to persuade others like the usual pyramid scheme.

That is a ridiculous and most definitely untrue statement. I do not work for David, never have and I make absolutely no money for my recommendations. I speak only from my experience with the product.

Rich
post #1282 of 2187
2/10/10 at 6:43pm
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Originally Posted by naturephoto1 View Post

Actually, you are in error. I had posted previously on Audio Circles years prior prior to my posting about the Upgrade Company and Dave Schulte. I have never posted about David and the Upgrade Company on Audiogon....

My apologies, Rich. Yes, it wasn't until your fourth post @ Audio Circles and I should have said Audio Asylum and not Audiogon.
post #1283 of 2187
2/10/10 at 6:50pm
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Originally Posted by naturephoto1 View Post

I am one of a small number of individuals that has taken a trip (3 times now) to the Upgrade Company facilities.............


..... My last visit was to the Upgrade Company Facilities when I picked up some Prototype speakers in January. At the same time, I had the opportunity to hear more upgraded items including those by Denon, the 2 box EMM Labs 25,000 SE unit with a $3,000 upgrade and an upgraded OPPO BDP-83SE. While there, we did the latest upgrades to my Denon 5910 and my Lavry DA10.

Please describe the "facilities". I know many here are curious. Also, in the last sentence I quoted, you stated "while there, we did the latest upgrades...." Does this mean you were physically present during the last incremental upgrade?

Finally, why did you come back to revisit this thread now, after being away for so long? Did rno63 call to tell you he was leaving the thread because his TUC defense contract was up and so it was your turn to pick up the slack? Just joking about this last question. Or should I only be (joking)? :shock:
post #1284 of 2187
2/10/10 at 7:01pm
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Originally Posted by CruelInventions View Post

Please describe the "facilities". I know many here are curious. Also, in the last sentence I quoted, you stated "while there, we did the latest upgrades...." Does this mean you were physically present during the last incremental upgrade?

I was present for the last 2 updated Upgrades of my Denon 5910, Lavry DA10, Denon 3800 BDCI, and my Onkyo 885.

Rich
post #1285 of 2187
2/10/10 at 7:17pm
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Originally Posted by naturephoto1 View Post

That is a ridiculous and most definitely untrue statement. I do not work for David, never have and I make absolutely no money for my recommendations. I speak only from my experience with the product.

Rich

No offense here, but you have admitted on this very site that your intentions were to create revenue for TUC and David Schulte. Is it not also true that you and Dave are working on bringing your existing prototype speakers to market? Also, is it not true that sell product for TUC and David Schulte on Audiogon because he is banned from there?

Again, just restating what has been posted here and on other forums.

I have nothing against you personally, Rich, but more so your forceful and aggressive approach when recommending TUC products, which I experienced first hand on very first posts on Bluray.com. This is one of the reasons why some feel as though DS has some sort of pyramid scheme going. When Nick was literally saddened that the OP did not acquire TUC services, helped but a stamp on it. (It was almost as if he felt he failed or something)

I will say that it seems you have gotten better in your promotion of the TUC. With all due respect, Rich, it really seemed like every single post was nothing but spam with constant repetition of TUC and DS completely spelled out, almost as if to help with people using search engines of passer byes.
post #1286 of 2187
2/10/10 at 7:31pm
is this DS some sort of super engineer?
how does he design the upgrades?
how does he 'test' them?

has anyone ever cracked one open to see what he actually does?
perhaps the blue dampening goo is to hide the work (or lack thereof)?

I google mapped his address, looks like a pole building behind a residence at the end of a dirt road...

if an upgrade costs $1000for some caps and misc foil, etc., that seems excessive, especially since he can't tell you what he does...
the companies that build the stuff could buy the same stuff for much less due to the quantities involved...
so why wouldn't they use it if it made a difference?

ANYBODY can buy one and reverse engineer it
I'm surprised some of the mfgs he bashes on his site for selling 'junk' and being profit driven haven't done so...debunk the whole thing...
post #1287 of 2187
2/10/10 at 7:34pm
Is it just me or does anyone think it strange that all of a sudden we're hearing talk of having the Oppo83se upgraded and raves about how good it sounds and a look over on TUC's page now has a new addition of a mod being offered to same by TUC? Coincidence? I don't know but it sure seems fishy. No offense Dave (the other guy brought it up first) since I do believe you're honest and sincere in your beliefs but it just makes it seem like somethings going on behind the scenes.

OK, Ok, I promise never to go back to that site.
post #1288 of 2187
2/10/10 at 7:39pm
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Originally Posted by Fanaticalism View Post

No offense here, but you have admitted on this very site that your intentions were to create revenue for TUC and David Schulte. Is it not also true that you and Dave are working on bringing your existing prototype speakers to market? Also, is it not true that sell product for TUC and David Schulte on Audiogon because he is banned from there?

David and I had discussed the possibility of bringing the Prototype speakers to market. I have no interest in participating in this venture. It is up to David if he wishes to bring these and other speaker designs to market. In the mean time, and at David's request, the layout of these speakers has not been published.

I have on some occasions listed some items for David on Audiogon. But, I receive no payment in any form for this.

I only make comments and recommendations based upon my experience with David's products. I do not overstate my observations nor do I lie about their performance. I hope that people take an opportunity to try and/or purchase products from David and that he can profit from the sale and that the buyers are exceedingly happy with the results and their purchase. Additionally, I do not make any money for any recommendations or sales that may come about based upon my recommendations. I have offered people and I would be happy if people would and did take me up on my offer to make comparisons with the upgraded components. Unfortunately the 1 time that I made this offer on Blu-ray.com no one was available to come for the audition.

Rich
post #1289 of 2187
2/10/10 at 7:46pm
when you read his stuff, it's all about testimonials...they are even present on his linkedin and similar sites...

no hard data, it's all fluff and sales and no tech
reminds me of amsoil or stuff like that: 'word of mouth', no facts

you have to wonder if he cuts people deals to go out and promote his stuff...
just flood the web, cast a wide (search) net, and see what happens...
he has access to the world now
and you know the saying, a sucker born every minute...not saying that is the case, but it's a hell of a marketing strategy...and this is more marketing than 'facts'

one component required 600 hours of break-in...that's 2 hours of listening for 3 days/week for 2 years!
that should be enough to get out of any legally required warranty or statue of limitations
post #1290 of 2187
2/10/10 at 7:54pm
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Originally Posted by ArthurPE View Post

when you read his stuff, it's all about testimonials...they are even present on his linkedin and similar sites...

no hard data, it's all fluff and sales and no tech
reminds me of amsoil or stuff like that: 'word of mouth', no facts

you have to wonder if he cuts people deals to go out and promote his stuff...
just flood the web, cast a wide (search) net, and see what happens...
he has access to the world now
and you know the saying, a sucker born every minute...not saying that is the case, but it's a hell of a marketing strategy...and this is more marketing than 'facts'

one component required 600 hours of break-in...that's 2 hours of listening for 3 days/week for 2 years!
that should be enough to get out of any legally required warranty or statue of limitations

It would be nice if some of the members of AVS could try to get together and just listen to the performance of the upgraded unit (s), stock units, and other modified, and more expensive units and make their own educated assessment rather than just speculate. This makes the most sense rather than argue about this from either side. That way, hopefully members of this forum would accept the unbiased opinion of one or several of its own regardless of their observations.

Rich
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