Originally Posted by ronesp
If you're still around, I just finished reading your HT thread over at bluray website (I'm not a member there and don't want to start a war on that thread so I'm posting here). All I can say say, with my jaw hitting the ground, is WOW!! You have some really sweet equipment there (in spite of my thoughts on the TUC upgrades), but didn't you think that maybe those prototypes that DS was building were going to overpower that room? I mean l/r 6' tall, a center , surrounds and rears 3' tall along with 2 conquests, all that equipment, the Berklines, in a room 19x14 (give or take a few inches) You have over 1000 lbs. of speakers there. And the room is closed off. My God! Didn't DS have any concerns about this? Of course my take of DS on this is that all he saw was mega $$$ dancing across his eyes and another 300% increase in business. To me he was just taking advantage of you. In my opinion he should have discouraged you from purchasing these, maybe suggested going with some maybe half their size or better yet, going out and auditioning something tried and true. From your posts it sounded like you haven't really been out listening to speakers in 6-7 years. That's the route I would take. By the way, I've heard the Nola vipers and thought they were very nice. And since you already have the center maybe that's something to consider but again, going with those big Nola references might create problems in the room. Since it sounds like the two of you were thinking of going into business together (maybe not) to bring these out to market and being the beta tester, he should have let you try them without charging you.
Now you're going with some OMA's, also prototypes with 18 in. drivers I think you said, along with those 2 conquests I hope you're not getting yourself into the same situation again. At least you know you'll get a full refund with them if they don't work out. Something DS should have also done. I don't know, I know you've been extremely happy with his work but his business practices leave alot to be desired (IMO). And please understand, I have no problem with people spending their money however they like to achieve whatever goal it is they are after. To each his own. Wish I could spend that much on this hobby. I wish you good luck and hope it all works out for you.
P.S. With the seating up against the windows, where are you planning to put the rear speakers?
Yes, I am still around, but have been staying out of the discussion. I have also heard the Nola Viper Reference II in the past (they now are in revision III). I could get them as an option. The Nola Baby Grands which I have heard are really more money than I wish to spend. My rebuilt Dahlquist DQ-10 speakers that were totally rebuilt about 5 years ago are really quite good.
I had an opportunity to listen to the big Oswald's Mill Audio OMA AC2 speakers ($68,000) speakers at the Oswald's Mill. They sounded remarkable possibly the best sounding speakers that I have heard regardless of price. Jonathan Weiss of Oswald's Mill brought the OMA mini horns for demo to my home and we listened both with my solid state electronics as well as with the Soundsmith 410 Phono Preamp directly to the $11,500 2 1/2 watt OMA tube amp and then to the OMA mini horns. These are $12,000 introductory cost speakers for the OMA Mini horn speakers. All 3 of us- Jonathan and Doug of Oswald's Mill and I were quite pleased with the performance of my Teres Certus 450 turntable, Teres Illius Tonearm and the Soundsmith Strain Gauge Cartride/Soundsmith 410 Phono Preamp in either configuration.
The new Oswald's Mill Audio New Yorkers will have 2 15" woofers per cabinet. I will listen to them before they are brought to my home. Jonathan knows the room and knows the problems that I had with the TimePortal Prototypes; he does not think that we will have issues with the OMA New Yorkers. We will be introducing acoustic room treatments later. The New Yorkers are a new design, no question, but Jonathan is of the opinion that they may well sound better than the more expensive AC2 speakers that I heard. Jonathan would not even sell me the AC2 speakers because they are too large for the space, the New Yorkers should fit fine. Anyway, if I do not like the speakers which we think is highly unlikely I do not have to keep them and I will get all of my money returned.
Hopefully we can get the OMA New Yorkers to mate adequately with the Nola Reference LCR Center Channel speaker. At this point the 2 large (18") Epik Conquest speakers face each other in the rear of the room. I am hoping to find a couple of Nola Reference LCR speakers on Audiogon to use as the sides and to place them atop the Epik Conquest Subwoofers. If I can't find them, I may opt for the Nola Viper 11A speakers on Audiogon, but they are a bit taller than I would want for this application.
The seating is not quite against the windows. I have 2 45" tall lead shot loaded Speaker stands that I will place between the seating and the curtains. Once the rebuilt woofers come back from Dahlquist/Regnar I intend to place the Dahlquist DQ-6CI speakers on the pedestals to use them for the rear speakers of the 7.1 system.