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post #331 of 2187
And I'm sure Mr. Schulte speaks highly of you, Mr. Chu.
post #332 of 2187
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Originally Posted by rno63 View Post

If in fact $10 worth of parts made the player sound like thousands more would you buy it?


Problem is, neither you or ANYBODY else with any real credibility, has even remotely proven that any of his mods really do any such things!


Being a praising lackey/shill for TUC, does not count as any credibility at all, it does not prove a thing.




Plus, some of the customer reviews are just outright total jokes! There are even a few where they never even compared a non-modded unit to a modded one. In fact, there are two people in this very thread that are guilty of this.
post #333 of 2187
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Originally Posted by rno63 View Post

But you would rather pay thousands more for lesser sound quality? I don't get your point here. If in fact $10 worth of parts made the player sound like thousands more would you buy it?

I can't believe you are still trying to justify this, Dave. You rely on your educational background to take advantage of the unsuspecting.

You go from secrecy of your "upgrades", to rationalization of poor work. What is even funnier, is that there are posts stating how "professional" your work looks, and the quality of your soldering and replacement of parts. Well, I hate to break it to ya, but your work is no "Picasso". Quite the contrary actually, looks more like a 2 year old trying to fit a triangle into a square cut-out.

Here is where the issue lies... There is quite an argument that there are differences, not to mention DB studies that show that not a single individual could distinguish between a $100 player and a $1000 player when both are properly manufactured and use quality parts (because we all know that quality parts don't cost much at all). What drives these products to the astronomical prices is exclusivity and recoup of manufacturing process and obtainment of licensing.
post #334 of 2187
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Originally Posted by par4 View Post

And I'm sure Mr. Schulte speaks highly of you, Mr. Chu.

Mr Schulte doesn't speak highly of anyone who doesn't purchase his products or politely asks to be taken off spam email. Come to think of it, he calls people who are not his customers ignoramus's.
post #335 of 2187
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Originally Posted by Chu Gai View Post

I seriously doubt, given Schulte's credentials, reading his writings, and seeing his work that he could ever work as an entry level technician in a repair shop. Better he should change his last name to Shyster.


Maybe he should change it to Schultz, then he could at least use the excuse of "I see nothing"...


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post #336 of 2187
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Originally Posted by Fanaticalism View Post

.... he calls people who are not his customers ignoramus's.


ergo, par4 = ignoramus

post #337 of 2187
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Originally Posted by rno63 View Post

But you would rather pay thousands more for lesser sound quality? I don't get your point here. If in fact $10 worth of parts made the player sound like thousands more would you buy it?

No. And the only evidence you have that there is even a change in sound at all, let alone an improvement, is the say so of someone who has already spent the money and hasn't even directly compared a stock and modified item side by side. I am very experienced in parts swapping (both measured and audible), and the differences are small at best.

I'm also someone who believes in reasonable value for work performed, and I don't see that here.
post #338 of 2187
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Originally Posted by par4 View Post

And I'm sure Mr. Schulte speaks highly of you, Mr. Chu.

Got to hand it to you par4 for doing pro bono work defending that hack.
post #339 of 2187
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Originally Posted by Chu Gai View Post

Posting pictures of something that is modded, regardless of what it is, is hardly childish. Maybe a bit vain. But not childish. It should be something that one is proud to display. There should be an attention to detail and an elegance if you will that speaks to the person's skill and and mastery of his craft. One should be able to point to various aspects of the modification and point out the benefit even it it's only cosmetic. For example, consider this rather substantial modification of an engine.



The owner obviously is not ashamed of the work. He also is unlikely to reply when asked what's the car's 1/4 mile or top end is with "It's pretty quick. I like it a lot better." The equivalent in audio would be "It sounds much better."

The pictures I posted are indicative of sloppiness bespeaking the skills of a person doing plastic surgery without the proper qualifications. They're something to be rather ashamed of. I suspect yours, rno63, to be equally abysmal looking. Schulte does not perform initial benchmarks for if he did he'd have reference points and if there was a problems he could intelligently discuss them with the customer. As a result, he cannot provide tangible measurements indicative of how the unit performs afterwards. Just some subjective audiophile terms that have been used for years that speak to a person's emotional reaction. This is quite unlike when people are modding PC's, cars, or something to do with photography. I seriously doubt, given Schulte's credentials, reading his writings, and seeing his work that he could ever work as an entry level technician in a repair shop. Better he should change his last name to Shyster.

Looks good but runs bad! Or does it? How do we know by a picture? Got anymore jack
post #340 of 2187
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Originally Posted by rno63 View Post

Looks good but runs bad! Or does it? How do we know by a picture? Got anymore jack

When I was building modified cars, everything was measured and kept in the notes so that any mods could be assessed and kept discarded based upon whether it made a worthwhile difference or not or whether that difference compromised some other aspect of performance. This is typical for all race teams and most of the modders I know.

Now, lets see the measurements of the stock units and those of the TUC modified ones.
post #341 of 2187
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Originally Posted by MrHiEndAudio View Post

Ah, it's not "eavsdropping" when you are a "direct party to the conversation".
Don't try and play lawyer when you're clearly not. I have consulted several lawyers on this recording technique used to catch liars and crooks, and they have all said that it is perfecty legal. Michigan Law clearly states that "any person may record the conversation as long as you are a direct party to the conversation".

================================================

Wow,
To think this guy actually has the balls to scream "liars & crooks" in a sentence without bursting into flame is crazy. Must have an internal sprinkler system.

At one point while picking through this soap opera I thought you actually did something (beginning of the thread) but as soon as you opened your mouth and started defending yourself all I could hear is SCAM ARTIST!!! Jesus, someone please get this guy off the internet.....
post #342 of 2187
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Originally Posted by CruelInventions View Post

ergo, par4 = ignoramus


Feel better?
post #343 of 2187
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Originally Posted by Chu Gai View Post

Got to hand it to you par4 for doing pro bono work defending that hack.

I'm not in the business of defending anybody. To all those who have not owned or listened to a product of this individual and have gleefully resorted to name calling and accusations is, well, predictable and for the most part laughable. But given that it's the usual cast of characters whose condescension and insults are now not a question of if, but when, on these threads, that response is now the norm and carries with it the associated level of credibility. We have heard both sides from owners of TUC's mods, and the readers can certainly ascertain their own conclusions from the testimony given. I'm sure more forum members would be interested to hear from any other owners of electronics modified by TUC who may want to technically challenge the work done. If Mr. Schulte and his business enterprise are indeed a sham the marketplace will surely determine that and sort it out, contributions by some of the geniuses in this thread notwithstanding. For those direct descendants of Inspector Clouseau who have so ably contributed their junior G-men detective work to this topic, I'm sure the readers will file this important information in the appropriate bin.
post #344 of 2187
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Originally Posted by par4 View Post

I'm not in the business of defending anybody. To all those who have not owned or listened to a product of this individual and have gleefully resorted to name calling and accusations is, well, predictable and for the most part laughable. But given that it's the usual cast of characters whose condescension and insults are now not a question of if, but when, on these threads, that response is now the norm and carries with it the associated level of credibility. We have heard both sides from owners of TUC's mods, and the readers can certainly ascertain their own conclusions from the testimony given. I'm sure more forum members would be interested to hear from any other owners of electronics modified by TUC who may want to technically challenge the work done. If Mr. Schulte and his business enterprise are indeed a sham the marketplace will surely determine that and sort it out, contributions by some of the geniuses in this thread notwithstanding. For those direct descendants of Inspector Clouseau who have so ably contributed their junior G-men detective work to this topic, I'm sure the readers will file this important information in the appropriate bin.


Irregardless of which side of the fence you'd like to place yourself on, this whole thing has "fishy" written all over it.

1. Why does this guy tape conversations with customers? Seems to be awfully paranoid about something...

2. If I'm throwing 1K at someone, I sure the hell want to know what I'm paying for. Anyone that sends equipment off to this guy to get "Upgraded" without knowing what's included in said activity is beyond foolish. My apologies to you folks that have done so, but seriously????

3. It's not "His" product the end user purchased, it's still a Denon/Pio/Marantz/Onkyo etc....

4. Device calibration (Plasma's/LCD's/LED's) is a business, yet we discuss how to do it, the tools required and the information needed to accomplish it openly. There are a few "Tricks of the trade", that some like to keep to themselves. But for the most part it's an open topic of discussion. Calibrator's and Novices alike share information.

The Professionals still get hired to calibrate even as most folks here do what they can on their own to the best of their ability. To think FOR ONE SECOND that more than 2% of the people here would have the balls to crack open a Pioneer SC-27 (or whatever model they own) and start replacing components and pulling crap apart, soldering, rewiring is beyond RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!!
So to think that TUC would have to keep it's work regime "Under Wraps" holds absolutely NO WATER!!!! As a matter of fact, it would be the exact opposite occuring if the guy was on the straight and narrow. Sorry, but I'm familiar with good business model's, and the one in this thread falls short of sounding anywhere near "good", as a matter of fact I would catagorize it as "Needs Investigating"....
post #345 of 2187
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Originally Posted by TweakerInWA View Post

Irregardless of which side of the fence you'd like to place yourself on, this whole thing has "fishy" written all over it.

1. Why does this guy tape conversations with customers? Seems to be awfully paranoid about something...

2. If I'm throwing 1K at someone, I sure the hell want to know what I'm paying for. Anyone that sends equipment off to this guy to get "Upgraded" without knowing what's included in said activity is beyond foolish. My apologies to you folks that have done so, but seriously????

3. It's not "His" product the end user purchased, it's still a Denon/Pio/Marantz/Onkyo etc....

4. Device calibration (Plasma's/LCD's/LED's) is a business, yet we discuss how to do it, the tools required and the information needed to accomplish it openly. There are a few "Tricks of the trade", that some like to keep to themselves. But for the most part it's an open topic of discussion. Calibrator's and Novices alike share information.

The Professionals still get hired to calibrate even as most folks here do what they can on their own to the best of their ability. To think FOR ONE SECOND that more than 2% of the people here would have the balls to crack open a Pioneer SC-27 (or whatever model they own) and start replacing components and pulling crap apart, soldering, rewiring is beyond RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!!
So to think that TUC would have to keep it's work regime "Under Wraps" holds absolutely NO WATER!!!! As a matter of fact, it would be the exact opposite occuringing if the guy was on the straight and narrow. Sorry, but I'm familiar with good business models, and the one in this thread falls short of sounding anywhere near "good", as a matter of fact I would catagorize it as "Needs Investigating"....

Obviously you express deep concern over this matter. No doubt first thing Monday morning you'll be on the phone with TUC discussing these matters with Mr. Schulte and "investigating". You can then relate your first person experience with the rest of the forum and provide the readership with the results of that conversation........
post #346 of 2187
No one likes to be told they were fooled in their purchase decision, we get it.


Take solace in knowing that the end distributor has degrees in all areas of mental manipulation, and is making good use of them with his "30 years of experience".
post #347 of 2187
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Originally Posted by par4 View Post

Obviously you express deep concern over this matter. No doubt first thing Monday morning you'll be on the phone with TUC discussing these matters with Mr. Schulte and "investigating". You can then relate your first person experience with the rest of the forum and provide the readership with the results of that conversation........


Actually,
The last thing I would want to do is "call". It seems the subject in question has a habit of recording conversations to use for future benefit and or "protection". To give someone a recording of an extended conversation that could in turn be edited to sound like, well, ANYTHING HE WANTS, is scary in and of it's self. The ONLY way I speak with an idividual that seems to have so much to hide or has something to be so paranoid about, is by recording the conversation myself and to have legal representation present to verify the content and topic of discussion.

Now you tell me something, why should I have to feel this way ??
post #348 of 2187
Regardless, irregardless is not a word.
post #349 of 2187
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Originally Posted by mrlittlejeans View Post

Regardless, irregardless is not a word.



ir⋅re⋅gard⋅less  /ˌɪrɪˈgɑrdlɪs/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ir-i-gahrd-lis] Show IPA
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–adverb Nonstandard. regardless.


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Origin:
1910–15; ir- 2 (prob. after irrespective) + regardless


Usage note:
Irregardless is considered nonstandard because of the two negative elements ir- and -less. It was probably formed on the analogy of such words as irrespective, irrelevant, and irreparable. Those who use it, including on occasion educated speakers, may do so from a desire to add emphasis. Irregardless first appeared in the early 20th century and was perhaps popularized by its use in a comic radio program of the 1930s.



So while not "Standard", it is indeed a word and was used to add emphasis on the topic being discussed here. I guess I could have just typed REGARDLESS to convey my point. But to appear as an educated individual I decided to get tricky, but I'm really just a shallow individual who makes a conscious effort to portray myself as being educated. You must be a Leaf's fan....
post #350 of 2187
par4 - I haven't seen you make a point yet other than to hold other members in contempt for their skepticism of TUC's work quality or value. Do you think, based on TUC Dave's behavior and comments as well as his website and the photos of one piece of his work, that his work is good? Do you have no opinion or make no judgment on TUC's products? Would you spend your money on TUC products after seeing Dave's behavior and an example of his work?
post #351 of 2187
I stand corrected. It is a word. Just a word that should not be used because it is incorrect and containing a double negative. Ain't is technically a word too, regardless of how incorrect it may be as well...

sorry.... pet peeve of mine...

from the other two definitions from the page containing yours at dictionary.com

ir·re·gard·less (ĭr'ĭ-gärd'lĭs)
adv. Nonstandard
Regardless.

[Probably blend of irrespective and regardless.]

Usage Note: Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be correct usage in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing. Coined in the United States in the early 20th century, it has met with a blizzard of condemnation for being an improper yoking of irrespective and regardless and for the logical absurdity of combining the negative ir- prefix and -less suffix in a single term. Although one might reasonably argue that it is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will probably continue to be so.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2009 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

Word Origin & History

irregardless
an erroneous word that, etymologically, means the exact opposite of what it is used to express, attested in non-standard writing from 1912, probably a blend of irrespective and regardless. Perhaps inspired by the double negative used as an emphatic.
Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2001 Douglas Harper
post #352 of 2187
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Originally Posted by mrlittlejeans View Post

I stand corrected. It is a word. Just a word that should not be used because it is incorrect and containing a double negative. Ain't is technically a word too, regardless of how incorrect it may be as well...

sorry.... pet peeve of mine...

from the other two definitions from the page containing yours at dictionary.com

ir·re·gard·less (ĭr'ĭ-gärd'lĭs)
adv. Nonstandard
Regardless.

[Probably blend of irrespective and regardless.]

Usage Note: Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be correct usage in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing. Coined in the United States in the early 20th century, it has met with a blizzard of condemnation for being an improper yoking of irrespective and regardless and for the logical absurdity of combining the negative ir- prefix and -less suffix in a single term. Although one might reasonably argue that it is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will probably continue to be so.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2009 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

Word Origin & History

irregardless
an erroneous word that, etymologically, means the exact opposite of what it is used to express, attested in non-standard writing from 1912, probably a blend of irrespective and regardless. Perhaps inspired by the double negative used as an emphatic.
Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2001 Douglas Harper

Ahhh, no biggie.... I had to double check !!!

You're probably just a little frustrated, and that's understandable taking into consideration it came from a Leaf's fan as mentioned earlier...Trust me I feel your pain, I'm a Rangers fan...Sorry, had to talk a little hockey smack today....
post #353 of 2187
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Originally Posted by A9X-308 View Post

When I was building modified cars, everything was measured and kept in the notes so that any mods could be assessed and kept discarded based upon whether it made a worthwhile difference or not or whether that difference compromised some other aspect of performance. This is typical for all race teams and most of the modders I know.

Now, lets see the measurements of the stock units and those of the TUC modified ones.

Take the measurements in your own living room and your own system. If you don't like how it measures then send it back. Who else does this in the modding world?
post #354 of 2187
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Originally Posted by rno63 View Post

Take the measurements in your own living room and your own system. If you don't like how it measures then send it back.

Why spend a lot of money so a rude hack can make dubious changes to a piece of gear, especially when I could do it myself if I chose?
post #355 of 2187
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Originally Posted by rno63 View Post

Take the measurements in your own living room and your own system. If you don't like how it measures then send it back. Who else does this in the modding world?

Send it back?
As stated earlier in the thread, you don't get your "non-jacked" gear back. It was clearly stated that "he buy's it" (prorated amount I'm sure) from you.

On top of that, hypothetically, let's say I send my brand spanking new SC-27 to TUC, they blow some air in it, or whatever. I get it back and two weeks later I'm having some kind of issue with it?
Who do I send it to for repair? I have a feeling that TUC isn't going to take resposibility for it, because I'm sure they covered themselves in the recorded phone conversation we had that when you agreed to service they would hold no future resposibility for problems with the unit once it leaves their chop shop in "working condition", And now that I've voided my warranty I'm in a position that nobody want's to ever be in. Brand new piece of broken gear, no warranty and god know's what's been done to it on the inside that could be causing the problem....

Please correct me if I'm wrong somewhere in there ???
post #356 of 2187
TUC modification


Modification company A


Figured I'd post pics of a company that actually modifies the equipment, not just add a bunch of aluminum foil so passer-byes could see for themselves.
post #357 of 2187
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Originally Posted by TweakerInWA View Post

Send it back?
As stated earlier in the thread, you don't get your "non-jacked" gear back. It was clearly stated that "he buy's it" (prorated amount I'm sure) from you.

On top of that, hypothetically, let's say I send my brand spanking new SC-27 to TUC, they blow some air in it, or whatever. I get it back and two weeks later I'm having some kind of issue with it?
Who do I send it to for repair? I have a feeling that TUC isn't going to take resposibility for it, because I'm sure they covered themselves in the recorded phone conversation we had that when you agreed to service they would hold no future resposibility for problems with the unit once it leaves their chop shop in "working condition", And now that I've voided my warranty I'm in a position that nobody want's to ever be in. Brand new piece of broken gear, no warranty and god know's what's been done to it on the inside that could be causing the problem....

Please correct me if I'm wrong somewhere in there ???

You will end up in my situation. A massive repair bill from the manufacturer and be bad mouthed a story teller, a Crook and someone who handle stolen goods.

Hey Dave, when will you ship my $1000 of new parts to Emms that you're holding for a credit or are you such a bad arse that you're going to keep/ steal them?
Maybe just maybe you have already used my parts to repair another player which you've bodged up hence the reason.....
post #358 of 2187
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Originally Posted by par4 View Post

I'm not in the business of defending anybody. To all those who have not owned or listened to a product of this individual and have gleefully resorted to name calling and accusations is, well, predictable and for the most part laughable. But given that it's the usual cast of characters whose condescension and insults are now not a question of if, but when, on these threads, that response is now the norm and carries with it the associated level of credibility.

You're right. I am condescending and insulting with respect to Schulte. I ask for no forgiveness and to me he is entirely deserving of my ridicule. Often in life, we have to make fairly quick judgements based on limited information. While certainly we can guess wrong, the accuracy of our guesses is improved by practical experience. A child is less qualified to make the decison whether to cross a street with traffic than an adult. A person who looks upon himself as an audiophile may be less likely to evaluate a prospective pitch than someone who has been exposed to or studied such pitches in other areas. Areas such as advertising, marketing, homeopathy, the paranormal, psychic healing, and so forth. In addition par4, he has come across as a brutish and bullying man. He can you know what himself.

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We have heard both sides from owners of TUC's mods, and the readers can certainly ascertain their own conclusions from the testimony given. I'm sure more forum members would be interested to hear from any other owners of electronics modified by TUC who may want to technically challenge the work done.

Sure, and it's my hope this thread serves to alert people and cause them to reflect on the wisdom of doing business with him. Then he can do some honest work collecting golf balls from the forests and water hazards for resale.

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If Mr. Schulte and his business enterprise are indeed a sham the marketplace will surely determine that and sort it out, contributions by some of the geniuses in this thread notwithstanding. For those direct descendants of Inspector Clouseau who have so ably contributed their junior G-men detective work to this topic, I'm sure the readers will file this important information in the appropriate bin.

I would hope par4, but shams have existed thousands of years ago and will exist long after we're dead.
post #359 of 2187
Man this is great. There should be a thread titled "List the most entertaining threads on these forums", maybe even a sticky.
post #360 of 2187
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Originally Posted by Chu Gai View Post

Sure, and it's my hope this thread serves to alert people and cause them to reflect on the wisdom of doing business with him. Then he can do some honest work collecting golf balls from the forests and water hazards for resale.

It's a pity that the original A-circle thread was removed from public access. Mr. S' behavior was unprofessional, at best, and positively childish, at worst. That behavior caused the owner/admin to lock the thread and to restrict Mr. S' communications such that they required approval before posting, with the following result, as described by the admin:

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*Locked threads can sometimes be unlocked for very good reasons in Source to the Ear*
David (Mr. Schulte-ed.) took me up on my offer and asked if he and a friend Al (whom was mentioned in the thread) could post. I told him sure, just email the posts to me first, then I will determine if I can unlock the thread. Three days later David emailed me his post. I checked my emails about 11 hours after receiving his email with the post (I once in a while have other things at hand then my email and audiocircle :wink and also found another threat from him in my inbox. I kindly asked that the threats cease, for I was trying to help, but only received more threats. I explained that if the threats continued, I would cease to be spend my time dealing with him, and therefore would not unlock the thread. David didn't get it, the threats continued.

Eventually I was told (among a long list of thing) that I had "have not helped one iota", been called an "idiot", and told I should "undergo a psychological evaluation." I usually can take some personal attacks, but the final insult finally broke me. I had a cousin take his own life, my means of a shotgun to the head, due to schizophrenia. I told David this and instead of apologizing, he told me that "Perhaps you are also affected with symptoms, it appears you are. Seek a professional opinion please."
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