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PGR5?? Could it be??

post #1 of 61
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Reading this article makes me happy.. I personally think PGR series was the most entertaining racing franchise ever. On any platform. I even loved the original MSR on Dreamcast a full decade ago.

http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=5938

In a post on Tesla Motors Consumer's Blog, Microsoft Corporate Vice President, Deputy General Counsel and Number One Sports Cars Fan Tom Burt revealed he was asked by "sound engineers from Microsoft Game Studios" from both the Forza and PGR teams to record "a variety of sounds" with his Tesla Roadster. He said on his post:

"A team of sound engineers from Microsoft Game Studios (some working on Forza, some on Project Gotham Racing) asked if I was willing to take my Roadster to a track so they could record a variety of sounds. Some time ago they had the opportunity to record Tesla motor noises when a prototype was being run on a dyno at Tesla. But the teams were excited about the prospect of recording other sounds, particularly tire skid and squeal noises, without the interference of loud engine and exhaust noise. Of course I said “yes.”"

"...they had three large boom mics “suction-cupped” to the side and rear of the car, plus a mic in the trunk, and two up front over the swaybars and near the front tires, plus one in the cabin interior, the latter mostly to record verbal “clapboards” to identify each segment. A sound engineer with the recording deck rode shotgun and I did the driving."

Ride a great car and help your company at the same time? That's a no-brainer.
post #2 of 61
PGR is owned by Microsoft, Bizarre is owned by Activision. The name may live on, but the game is dead.
post #3 of 61
It's been rumored for a long time that Turn 10 was working on a new Project Gotham. Considering how much I don't like Forza, that could be a bad thing.
post #4 of 61
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Ahh.. Macello my longtime PGR3 & 4 enemy. I hope that PGR5 is released so that we may battle again one day. Especially now that I have the full Playseats chair.. all my results in PGR3 & 4.. are from using the wheel and pedals on a folding table.

I have no doubt PGR5 will be released. The question is how much will it look and play like the versions in its past. PGR has a huge following because it was one of the titles that helped established the original Xbox.. and also the 360. There are many fans of the game left waiting.. and I see PGR5 being an easy million+ seller.

Or you could look at it this way:
PGR 1 launched on the original Xbox, PGR 2 followed up..
PGR 3 launched on the Xbox 360, PGR 4 was the follow up..

Could it be PGR5 is being worked on right now as a launch title for the Xbox720 launching Fall 2011??

Makes me even wonder about the next Halo.. Because PGR is traditionally released the during the same timeslot as Halo.
post #5 of 61
Without the original developers I can't get too excited. Plus, through four iterations of the Kudos system I don't know what else they can extract from it. I played a ton of PGR but I don't think I'd jump at the chance to do it all over again.
post #6 of 61
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The Kudos system is what made me keeping playing PGR when other racing games became boring. I like rewards system and the different events. It was just go race & win every race. And it really made you alter your driving style for each event.

I would to love see a version of Forza3 thats more PGR-like to include arcade-ish driving that still requires a great amount of skill and the kudos system & driving events.
post #7 of 61
PGR 2 and 4 are definitely in my top 10 games in terms of playtime. I'd welcome another one, even from a different developer, if they could just retain the feel of the previous titles and give me new stuff to do. I'm sure that poor sales of 4 will justify their "reinvention" of the title.

Not too excited about Bizarre's new racing game either. Mario Kart + PGR = What???
post #8 of 61
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The poor sales of 4 were more cause by its poor planned release. Right in the middle of Halo3 & COD4. Which until MW2.. were the best selling titles ever on the Xbox 360.

Thats like going to the club with Lebron James & Kobe Bryant.. and wondering why no chicks want to get my number..
post #9 of 61
My favorite maps were from PGR2. Barcelona, Florence, Hong Kong, Washington, D.C, and Yokohama.

Moscow, how I long for thee!
post #10 of 61
PGR2 was an awesome, groundbreaking game. PGR3 and 4, not so much. PGR2 = biggest surprise on xbox for me (for sure top 3, maybe higher), PGR3 and 4 = biggest disappointment on 360 for me.
post #11 of 61
I loved paris. I spent hours crusing around in a Ferrari F355
post #12 of 61
Stockholm and Edinburgh were my fav cities. You could rack up some serious kudos on those tracks if you knew how to race properly. Downtown Short was for the kudo whores. You know who you are if you raced there on a regular basis.
post #13 of 61
PGR2 was the best racing game of all time imo, especially for multiplayer. You could join a public match and the people were almost always great, unlike the jackholes who populate public games now. If they remade PGR2 with all the extra candy the 360 could handle, I'd buy that sucker in a NY minute.
post #14 of 61
I second the remake.
and while were at it please RALLISPORT!
edit: I think the game was rallitart, my memorys not so hot.
post #15 of 61
^ It was Rallisport Challenge. Also, I 3rd the remake. I put so much time into that game though that I don't know how serious I'd take it other than to see the prettier graphics. Still, a remake wouldn't be a bad idea. Too bad it's never going to happen.
post #16 of 61
I still can't believe Microsoft let Dice slip throught there hands. Not only did it cost them some of there best series.....
I just a world where dice made games for microsoft would be a much better one.

I WANT ANOTHER MIDTOWN MADNESS. and now how did microsoft lose the PGR company to activision/blizzard?
post #17 of 61
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Originally Posted by taylor34 View Post

PGR2 was an awesome, groundbreaking game. PGR3 and 4, not so much. PGR2 = biggest surprise on xbox for me (for sure top 3, maybe higher), PGR3 and 4 = biggest disappointment on 360 for me.

I agree with this post 100%

I have no real desire for another PGR honestly. I am more interested in Shift 2... but that makes me think perhaps a new studio can save PGR. I have not been able to stand the NFS series since the XBox days then Shift came along and was just plaine fun to play. (Just like PGR2)
post #18 of 61
If anyone is doing PGR5... I hope its not Turn 10. They can make a great physics engine but they haven't yet convinced me they can make a good singleplayer game. Forza 3 isn't it, that's for sure.

The people that made Shift used to work on the GTR series on PC. With EA turning to Criterion for NFS (which I'm not crazy about), who knows what they are doing next?

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I WANT ANOTHER MIDTOWN MADNESS. and now how did microsoft lose the PGR company to activision/blizzard?

Bizarre wasn't owned by MS... they were just contracted to make games for them. Activision bought them up.

Midtown Madness games were made by, I believe, the same company which has been doing Midnight Club titles for Rockstar.
post #19 of 61
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I should have bought Shift instead of Forza3.. :0(
post #20 of 61
I spy faux car enthusiasts...
post #21 of 61
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Originally Posted by Daekwan View Post

I should have bought Shift instead of Forza3.. :0(

I bought both. Shift was very fun, good balance between some tuning and arcade feel. Enjoying Forza now.
post #22 of 61
If there was one thing the PGR series got right, it was tracks. I'd love to see some of the tracks from that franchise make it's way into Forza. The idea of racing on the PGR New York and Moscow circuits in Forza would be perfection. Probably never happen, but a guy can dream.
post #23 of 61
Dice made Midtown as well as Midnight club and Battlefield.
And Blizzard was never owned by Microsoft.
My point was how could Microsoft let two hugely skilled and popular developers slip through there fingers. These guys could have really added to the ranks of Microsoft.

As for Need for Speed I would love to see it go back to its routes.

Fast cars. Awesome outside racing enviroments like mountains, deserts, "home town"
The only two recent NFS's I have enjoyed was hot pursuit 2 and most wanted.
post #24 of 61
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Dice made Midtown as well as Midnight club and Battlefield.

No, Angel Studios (now Rockstar San Diego) made Midnight Club and Midtown Madness. DICE made Rallisport and Battlefield.
post #25 of 61
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Originally Posted by ProjectEF View Post

I spy faux car enthusiasts...

Hey I cant afford the real or fake ones.. might as well dream lol

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Originally Posted by FrankJ.Cone View Post

I bought both. Shift was very fun, good balance between some tuning and arcade feel. Enjoying Forza now.

Shift sounds like the 'new' PGR..

I did enjoy Forza3 until DJHero & MW2 came around.. just so much effort to pull out the chair and setup for F3.. when the other games are more pickup & play..

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Originally Posted by ratpacker View Post

If there was one thing the PGR series got right, it was tracks. I'd love to see some of the tracks from that franchise make it's way into Forza. The idea of racing on the PGR New York and Moscow circuits in Forza would be perfection. Probably never happen, but a guy can dream.

PGR did have great tracks that I loved very much.. especially racing thru the cities around the world. There is nothing like fly across the Brooklyn Bridge at 200mph.. something I used to do a 2mph on my daily commute into Manhattan..

That said I do appreciate racing on the same racetracks across the US that I have also done in reallife. Thanks for that Forza3.. pretty cool knowing the exact entry/apex/exit points in the videogame.. because you remember them from a trackday/race
post #26 of 61
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Originally Posted by Daekwan View Post

I did enjoy Forza3 until DJHero & MW2 came around.. just so much effort to pull out the chair and setup for F3.. when the other games are more pickup & play..

That is why I got rid of my Playseat. Now I have a modified desk with a dedciated 360, 25" screen, Fanatec Wheel and X720 headset. I just move my HDD and am GTG!
post #27 of 61
Dice made the last and best Midtown Madness (3)
post #28 of 61
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Originally Posted by Daekwan View Post


Shift sounds like the 'new' PGR..

Pick yourself up a copy on the cheap, or better yet rent it for the weekend.... I can tell by what you've said up to this point in this thread that you'll be hooked. It's a pretty slick game. I've recently flipped my copy on Goozex, but I'll be picking it back up in a couple of months once the value drops below 500 points.
post #29 of 61
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Originally Posted by number1laing View Post

No, Angel Studios (now Rockstar San Diego) made Midnight Club and Midtown Madness. DICE made Rallisport and Battlefield.

I just started (re)playing DICE's Rallisport on the old Xbox with the nephews. Still pretty fun, and surprisingly good-looking too.
post #30 of 61
Do not defame the name of PGR by comparing it to Shift.
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