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Projector Box: "You really should inspect me thoroughly for damage, including any potential operational issues...." biggrin.gif

La La La...I can't hear you...La La La

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post #543 of 1224
When do you think you will mount it and test it.. I cant wait to hear reviews
post #544 of 1224
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It's going to be awhile. I need to finish the fabric frames, paint, get carpet, build my rack, get a job, hook up gear, etc. etc.
post #545 of 1224
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo lol
post #546 of 1224
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It's going to be awhile. I need to finish the fabric frames, paint, get carpet, build my rack, get a job, hook up gear, etc. etc.

So - Sunday?
post #547 of 1224
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So - Sunday?

I'm thinking Friday is more than doable. smile.gif
post #548 of 1224
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It's going to be awhile. I need to finish the fabric frames, paint, get carpet, build my rack, get a job, hook up gear, etc. etc.

The rental fee on the "screen test" PJ goes up dramatically near the end of October... biggrin.gif
post #549 of 1224
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So - Sunday?

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I'm thinking Friday is more than doable. smile.gif

Progress really depends on whether my "project manager" continues to move task #5-"Get a job" up the to-do list.
Edited by Spaceman - 9/13/12 at 8:04am
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The rental fee on the "screen test" PJ goes up dramatically near the end of October... biggrin.gif

It's only been 4 months.wink.gif

See you on Saturday.
post #551 of 1224
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66 Panels done...30 to go. Somehow, every time I count remaining panels I get a different number, but I think I've settled on 30. I've been using more speaker grill pegs than originally planned, so I placed an order for another 16 bags. For those keeping count at home, that would be 49 total bags at 12 balls/sockets per bag. I'll let you do the math to see how many holes I've been drilling. I blame my lack of progress on having to change drill bits when going from drilling socket holes to drilling ball holes. Note to manufacturer - One size fits all would have been better.

With the exception of the panel on the front of the right column (that will swing open to access the equipment rack), I'm pretty much done with the left wall. I'm waiting until after the carpet is installed to build the two odd-shaped panels around the stage and riser steps. On the right, by the stage, you will see the opening I will use to access the equipment closet. I can just pop the 3 large panels off and step over the fixed trim to gain access to the closet.
Like the right wall, these are all long, rectangular panels. The mid-supports make it look like a bunch of square panels.
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I also marked the edge of the screen frame on the false wall before taking that back down for safe keeping. I'm now working on the panels that will fit around the screen.
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The back wall is still at 90% and the right wall sits at 50%. This is taking FOREVER!
Edited by Spaceman - 9/21/12 at 2:10pm
post #552 of 1224
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I blame my lack of progress on having to change drill bits when going from drilling socket holes to drilling ball holes.
Sounds like a reason to buy more tools. biggrin.gif

Keep up the good work.
post #553 of 1224
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I was doing ok when my brother-in-law left his drill at my house. Then I had a drill for each bit. Unfortunately, he had to take it back, so I'm stuck changing bits. I can't really say that is what is slowing me down. There are just a lot of steps between cutting the plywood strips and actually hanging the panel that really add up when you have so many panels. I'm happy with how it is coming out, just not too happy with my pace.

Speaking of buying more tools, I ordered one of these yesterday. http://www.gleempaint.com/noname.html
post #554 of 1224
No question the frames are a lot of work - unless you're a freaking machine like Big tongue.gif - its looking great, looking forward to seeing some fabric go up, as I'm sure you are. That was one of the most satisfying stages in my build, how quickly the whole room transforms from a skeleton into something approximating livable!

As far as changing bits, I did all the holes for the panel, then all the holes for the furring for that panel - vs. switching for each hole - but maybe you're already doing that.
post #555 of 1224
I can honestly say I made a design decision to NOT do panels after seeing the huge undertaking of making that many panel frames, let alone cutting the rigid fiberglass and hand stretching all of that fabric. Just let me know when you are about a week away from starting the fabric because I would like to buy some stock in the staple company!!!

The room is really coming along and looks very nice. Just think if you make five panels a day you will be done by this time next week.
post #556 of 1224
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Originally Posted by Brad Horstkotte View Post

No question the frames are a lot of work - unless you're a freaking machine like Big tongue.gif - its looking great, looking forward to seeing some fabric go up, as I'm sure you are. That was one of the most satisfying stages in my build, how quickly the whole room transforms from a skeleton into something approximating livable!
As far as changing bits, I did all the holes for the panel, then all the holes for the furring for that panel - vs. switching for each hole - but maybe you're already doing that.

Yeah, maybe I didn't explain that correctly. I'm doing the same as you did...all holes in the furring and then all holes in the panel. Still a p.i.a.
post #557 of 1224
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I can honestly say I made a design decision to NOT do panels after seeing the huge undertaking of making that many panel frames, let alone cutting the rigid fiberglass and hand stretching all of that fabric. Just let me know when you are about a week away from starting the fabric because I would like to buy some stock in the staple company!!!
The room is really coming along and looks very nice. Just think if you make five panels a day you will be done by this time next week.

That's the plan, although 5 panels a day is a little ahead of my pace. Too many other distractions.

My 10,000 ct. box of staples arrived in the mail today. My order certainly won't drive up the stock price, but I did turn Big onto these guys so look for solid earnings in the future. http://www.amazon.com/C06-8-Inch-Length-Galvanized-Staples/dp/B000KM300A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1348279956&sr=8-1&keywords=grex+3%2F8%22+staples

Maybe this weekend I'll take a shot at estimating fabric so I can get that ordered.
Edited by Spaceman - 9/21/12 at 7:18pm
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I think I ended up using 25,000-30,000 staples eek.gif
post #559 of 1224
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I think I ended up using 25,000-30,000 staples eek.gif

I'm sure I'll need one more box (maybe 2). I wanted to take one for a test drive before investing in 30,000 staples.
post #560 of 1224
Are you using the same upholstery stapler that BIG has suggested?
post #561 of 1224
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Yes, I bought a Porter Cable US58 upholstery stapler for the fabric.
post #562 of 1224
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Estimating fabric for panels

When cutting the fabric to fit a panel, how much extra fabric (beyond the face dimensions) do you need to easily wrap, staple and trim? I was thinking an extra 2-1/2" all the way around to cover the 1" panel thickness and to be able to pull it tight across the back of the 1-1/2" frame. So a 12"x12" panel would need a 17"x17" piece of fabric? Is this too much? Too little?
Edited by Spaceman - 9/21/12 at 8:24pm
post #563 of 1224
For 1" thick panel, I'd think you'd want at least 2" extra all around - 1" for the depth, and 1" behind to staple and not have to get too close to the edge. 2 1/2" would give a little more insurance - whether you need that insurance would depend a bit on how much stretch the fabric has. Since GoM fabric comes 66" wide, I made my "main" panels 26" high, to make sure I could get two from each length of fabric, and still have some wiggle room in case I didn't cut the fabric perfectly straight.
post #564 of 1224
http://www.cheapdjgear.us/48_Blacklight_Fixture_p/f48a.htm
This place has the same sleek tube, for $29.99 verse the $39.99
I'm going to try using the same tube for a painted star ceiling
... just in case you haven't bought them yet. ^_^
post #565 of 1224
BTW I think I'm going to steal your light tray design if you don't mind.
It looks like fun and I've been on the fence on how I wanted to finish
off that part of the ceiling. Great job on all your work!
It's going to be Awesome when it's complete!
post #566 of 1224
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http://www.cheapdjgear.us/48_Blacklight_Fixture_p/f48a.htm
This place has the same sleek tube, for $29.99 verse the $39.99
I'm going to try using the same tube for a painted star ceiling
... just in case you haven't bought them yet. ^_^

I haven't. Thanks for the link.

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Originally Posted by PaulFSemicolen View Post

BTW I think I'm going to steal your light tray design if you don't mind.
It looks like fun and I've been on the fence on how I wanted to finish
off that part of the ceiling. Great job on all your work!
It's going to be Awesome when it's complete!

Fun isn't the word I used while building it, but steal away.wink.gif
post #567 of 1224
Spaceman,
How did you determine where you put your left/right mains? Did you line them up with center of outside seats?

ScAndal
post #568 of 1224
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When I was planning a 100" 16:9 screen, I had them located on either side of the screen with a slight toe-in. In this configuration, they would have been 10-1/2' apart, or 30 degrees from the room center line. When I decided to go with a 115" 2.35:1 screen, I no longer had the room to place the speakers between the side walls and the screen, so they both slid behind the screen. I kept them as far apart as possible given the screen size. I think they are now just over 8' apart, or 22 degrees from the room center line. Dolby recommends 22-30 degrees from room center line, so I guess I'm still in the acceptable range. With the primary listening position at 9'-6", they would be a little too close together if I was following the equilateral triangle rule.
Edited by Spaceman - 9/26/12 at 8:14pm
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Spaceman updated pics?
post #570 of 1224
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Nothing exciting happening here....just more #$%&^? PANELS!
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Everything taken downstairs, ready to be painted this weekend.
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I managed to get through 85 of the 100 panels before getting the itch to clean out the room and get the ceiling ready for paint. Yes, the final count now sits at 100 panels. I finally broke down and numbered them on the computer since my quick counts in the room were not yielding consistent results. I really don't have a complicated panel layout, but the way I designed the columns brought me to the century mark. 30 of the 100 panels occur on the 4 columns, so the balance of the room ONLY needed 70 panels. I guess that's still a lot.

I spent yesterday hauling all of the panels downstairs and then vacuuming the entire room (floor, ceiling and walls). Sawdust was everywhere. I can only imagine what my lungs look like, even though I wore a respirator (most of the time). The only panels left are a few on the screen wall, a few on the entry door and a few that need to be measured after carpet.

I've selected the following carpet and fabric, except I'll be using black velvet instead of black FR701 on the screen wall.
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I'd like to throw out a few different schemes for a vote.
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All have Cocoa fabric as the primary wall color with Chocolate fabric on the 4 columns. 1x3 black trim is used as an accent.

Option 1 adds chocolate fabric to the 2 bump outs in the back corners, visually adding 2 more "columns" to the room.
Option 2 removes the chocolate fabric from the 2 bump outs and places it on the back wall, creating an accent wall.
Option 3 is the same as option 1, but uses chocolate fabric above and below the 1x3 black trim.
Option 4 is the same as option 2, but uses chocolate fabric above and below the 1x3 black trim.

Here is an actual photo of the left wall so you can visualize the columns, rear bump outs and panel placement.
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