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what is so important about the kill / death ratio?

post #1 of 107
Thread Starter 
i dont get it.

yesterday i was playing domination with modern warfare 2. and i killed a guy 4 times in a row. get an angry message i am messing up his kill / death ratio.

i text back it is just a game. nobody cares about a kill / death ratio. get a message back with more garbage in it.

so what is so important about this ratio? if you want more kills then deaths it is simple. take a sniper gun. and a rifle go camping and you easily achieve it.

for me i dont care. i run wild in domination and have like 1800 kills and 2700 deaths.

or do you get like a a gold medal if you achieve more kills then deaths? does the army recruit you as a general?

please help me understand as i just dont see the importance of this ratio. while it seems to some people it is like a life and death situation.
post #2 of 107
it hilarious he complained about that... the whole point of having a good one means you are supposed to be good at the game.... all the higher the ratio, the better player you are (at least many people think), so that's why he was mad
post #3 of 107
Well, I haven't played MW2 yet, but in MW each time you kill someone your team earns points, and each time the other team kills you, they earn points. So a high K/D ratio means that you get a lot more points than you give up. Obviously in some game types K/D doesn't matter much, but it's still a good gauge of a smart player.
post #4 of 107
A high k/d ratio in domination is worthless. I am fond of the players with a negative k/d ratio with a lot of points because it shows they are capturing flags and trying to win. The only time someone should sit still in domination is if they are protecting a contested flag and know that there are plenty of players going after the other flags.

A good k/d ratio is nice for deathmatch because it helps the team win.
post #5 of 107
It means your e-peen is bigger, of course it's important!!!!
post #6 of 107
He basically told you to stop shooting at him?? Hahaha...
post #7 of 107
When starting a match, I announce to everyone in the lobby that I value my K/D ratio and to please not shoot me. Nobody seems to listen. hmmmm.
post #8 of 107
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Originally Posted by d3code View Post

yesterday i was playing domination with modern warfare 2. and i killed a guy 4 times in a row. get an angry message i am messing up his kill / death ratio.

Please post his PSN ID so we can all hunt him down. He was annoyed with you? Wait until this entire group is after him. I say we only do it for a weekend to teach a lesson.
post #9 of 107
oh god. Makes me miss the old days of "stop killing me already." Now it's "you're decreasing my ratio!"
post #10 of 107
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Originally Posted by anthonycm View Post

Please post his PSN ID so we can all hunt him down. He was annoyed with you? Wait until this entire group is after him. I say we only do it for a weekend to teach a lesson.

I would so be down for this! I hate it when people bitch about their K/D ratio... I'm playing for the fun of the game not to be all anal about it!!
post #11 of 107
LOL at the message.

But for me...K/D is what I worry about most when looking at stats. If you have 10000 kills great...but if you have 12000 deaths then you're garbage imo.
post #12 of 107
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Originally Posted by Conspiracy* View Post

LOL at the message.

But for me...K/D is what I worry about most when looking at stats. If you have 10000 kills great...but if you have 12000 deaths then you're garbage imo.

so i'm garbage because i don't have a positive k/d?

this game brings out the best in people /sarcasm
post #13 of 107
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Originally posted by Conspiracy*
LOL at the message.

But for me...K/D is what I worry about most when looking at stats. If you have 10000 kills great...but if you have 12000 deaths then you're garbage imo.

One of the NOM guys, that I play MW2 with, that I fear the most has a negative KDR. He is a freaking ace when it comes to taking out air support. I don't know how he does it, but before my pave low or helicopter even has a chance to get 1 kill he blows it out of the sky. He is a welcome to have on my team, and its frustrating as hell when he is on the other team. He is certainly not "garbage"...
post #14 of 107
Idiots who send messages like that deserve to get nailed online and often! I killed some dude packing a shield 5 or 6 times in a game the other day and he didn't whine to me. Some us just play.
post #15 of 107
I don't get it...Isn't getting killed and figuring out how to avoid situations like that in the future half the fun? This guy is just like the glitchers out there...so hung up on the numbers they forget to have fun...
post #16 of 107
ballsack
post #17 of 107
The answer to the topic question is: Nothing. It doesn't effect the outcome of the game you are currently in and there's no reason to care how 133t people think you are. Unless you're 12.
post #18 of 107
It's kind of nice to look at the ratio and see that you're killing more than being killed, though I've never gone out of my way to 'fix' a ratio like sitting and sniping for that reason alone. Getting upset over it and sending a message complaining to a guy who is killing you is ridiculous.
post #19 of 107
It does affect the outcome of deathmatch.
post #20 of 107
What happened to everyone playing video games for fun? Now everyone seems to think they are playing in MLG for money or something. Personally when I hear some bitch about why was your kill death ratio so bad, I tend to ask them, why was your teamwork so horrible, shuts them right up.
post #21 of 107
The thing about the k/d ratio, and it's obvious, but it's an average. This can be greatly accentuated one way or another by frequently lopsided matches. In general it should even out.

There should be some other stat, IMO, (like in MLB's "Quality Start") that indicates how many quality matches you have. If I go 12-10, 13-8 and then 8-16 because I got reamed by a good team my k/d ratio looks a lot worse (below 1) when in reality I helped my team in 2/3 matches.
post #22 of 107
Plus, kill streak rewards like helicopters, etc. make a bad game seem much worse and accentuate the numbers..
post #23 of 107
There's nothing wrong with caring about your KDR. Killing more that dying is a good thing in most game types. You guys are talking about losers though who would bitch over anything in any game they played. Don't confuse wanting to be good at a game with whatever the pathetic crowd is going on about.

At the end of the day it's about having fun. Some people have fun by having high stats and some by just running into the fray wildly and playing war.

In my opinion, MW2 needs stats separate for each game type. KDR in domination, CTF and other modes means nothing. KDR in team deathmath, FFA and others means everything... But there's just ONE stat for it. Lame.

And yes my KDR does suck. It's a 1.11 at the moment.
post #24 of 107
Frankly, I don't have time to play MW2 5-6 hours a day. I have a job, family, and other responsibilities. I'm not an elite gamer and don't care to be. Therefore, when I do play MW2 online, I play to have fun, not to worry about my stats.

This is why I stick to objective based game types (Domination, Sabotage, CTF, etc.), where a high K/D isn't as important as helping your team capture flags, plant bombs, kill bomb carriers, etc.

I'll play FFA when I just want to practice on maps, try new tactics, etc.

I know that me getting killed more times than I kill others (which usually happens - LOL) directly hurts my team in TDM so I don't play that.

To each his/her own.
post #25 of 107
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Originally Posted by rdank View Post

When starting a match, I announce to everyone in the lobby that I value my K/D ratio and to please not shoot me. Nobody seems to listen. hmmmm.
post #26 of 107
I don't care much about my K/D ratio. My goal each match is to have a great K/D. There are just those games where I get my @ss handed to me. I had one game where I was killed 6 straight times by things other than humans. Helicopter, Harrier, Gun Turrets, and Predator all had their fun killing me. My K/D sucked but I didn't care, I had fun. Games like that I try to hunt down the guy with the best K/D. Fun when you can kill them a few times in a row.

I enjoy this game and I do not obsess about it. Don't have the time to play as much as others. I am really enjoying changing classes around to get a good fit for every map.
post #27 of 107
some people live and die by the K/D ratio....me, I could care less, as long as I'm having fun and at least hitting as many kills as deaths I'm happy. I'm a run and gunner for the most part.
post #28 of 107
I've always been a kind of perfectionnist even in gaming. So K/D ratio was very important. Just started playing Cod6 and getting my ass handed to me by lvl 40++.

Some games I'm having a positive K/D ratio and some not. However, I'm always in the top even with higher levels than me. However, I'm finding myself not carring about my K/D and more enjoying the game. I'm just playing for fun, not to be the best player. I'm playing with friends and my brothers and we're having a blast.

I don't care about my e-pen anymore

It's just fun to see the K/d ratio evolve to see if you'Re getting better or not
post #29 of 107
Thread Starter 
i dont know the guys handle anymore. i basically deleted his messages afterwards and continued gaming.

yesterday i had a lot of fun. i unlocked the semtex and i was playing the level with airplanes.

anyway i laid down a semtex in the cockpit. waited inside the building till i saw someone in the cockpit. started shooting just a bit away from him to get his attention. he was trying to shoot me i duck and press the ingition button and made the kill. at that time i wish i could videorecord the sequence. it was so awesome

another great kill was that i laid down a semtext at a flag. i was running away from it trying to capture an other flag. then i heard the enemy is capturing flag B. and i am like wait that is were my semtex was. press ignition button and BOoom another kill lol.

man do i love the semtex in this game. it reminds me of playing games like spy vs spy on the C64, 20 years ago

Cyn about kill / death ratio.

how do you describe someone getting good in a game? so far of the 100+ matches i played, i only played against 2 guys who were extremely good. i never forget we were playing wastelands in domination and this guy comes running towards us. and kills us 3 in like a nano second. we all were like WTF just happened lol. 2 mins later the guy dropped a nuke and the game was over. for that kind of people i have respect. because they dont camp , they try to take in flags but are just so good with shooting, it is frighting and the same time very cool that your playing against someone who is so ridiculous good.

others not so much. they dont take in flags. just go camping on the weakspots of the game. get some kills and lay low and bring in the helicopters, ac130 etc. which is fine by me as well. but i dont see these people as good players. because it does require less skill to look for softposts and go camping. and when you kill someone then move to an other weakspot.

but to each their own. for me fun is getting awesome kills like described above, or having a great capture of a flag with some teammates. however killing me over and over again so that my killing streak gets less then my deathstreak wont do a thing for me. you can drop 10 grenades on my head. i am always coming back. groundhog day :0)
post #30 of 107
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Originally Posted by Cynn View Post

There's nothing wrong with caring about your KDR. Killing more that dying is a good thing in most game types. You guys are talking about losers though who would bitch over anything in any game they played. Don't confuse wanting to be good at a game with whatever the pathetic crowd is going on about.

The only thing KDR is an accurate measurement in is plain old vanilla DM.

thats it.

Even in TDM, it doesn't matter much as one person on the team could be the sacrificial lamb, while others use him as bait and run up the score. Hence the TEAM win. A close game, as most end up being, means both teams KDR's are very close. Going to other game modes, it matters less and less.

The problem is with people who think it's some sort of bragging right, and that it's some dishonor to be below 1:1

In other words ballsack.

most people are immature, childish and petty. KDR is a number that feeds into their ego, and when you one up them, well, you get the obvious response.

d3code, don't confuse different strategies and style for play as different levels of playing. I always have to laugh at the people who scream "damn camper". Mostly, they're just reckless, not very good, and don't want to run with the correct class to outwit the other person.
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