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post #121 of 1340
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Originally Posted by Cubfan View Post

Hehe... looks like the same guy who posted the bad review on Amazon has posted the same review on Bestbuy.com.

LOL! I guess he has nothing better to do...
post #122 of 1340
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Originally Posted by Cubfan View Post

Doesn't look like there are anymore on Ebay that allows that nice free shipping and 8% back.

Guy must have a few, he relisted the item at least once.
post #123 of 1340
Close to pulling the trigger on this one, but wish I knew about the throw distance, as none of the calculators are yet working for this new pj. If it's the same as the HD65, I'll be fine.
post #124 of 1340
So what's going to be needed to watch the Directv 3D and the 3D Blu Ray's? I'm talking about the glasses. So far all I have been able to find is the Nivida glasses that hook up to the computer. I just want to have the 3D for Directv when the time comes not for anything computer related.
post #125 of 1340
Can anyone comment on the noise?
post #126 of 1340
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Originally Posted by klas View Post

Can anyone comment on the noise?

I have mine mounted directly above my head - can't hear the fan at all.
post #127 of 1340
Got mine last night. A few brief comments, I'll write something up later.

* Noise: quieter than my sp4805, but I can hear it, esp. when on bright mode.
* Brilliant color: TURN THIS WAY DOWN. It looks terrible when on a 10 (which is default)
* Lens throw: It has a shorter throw than the SP4805 I had, but not by a lot, looks like it projects the same image at 12 feet that the 4805 did at 13 feet.
* Blacks are pretty good, at least as good as the 4805, probably better
* Definitely a 1280x800 (16x10) projector natively, but has an option to have it "pretend" the extra 80 pixels don't exist
* Colors are bright and seem accurate

Overall, I am very happy with it.
post #128 of 1340
Optoma is showing a 1.55-1.7 for the HD66. What size image are you getting at 12 feet?
post #129 of 1340
can any one post nice high quality screen shots from some movies with this projector, i know there are some already posted but the pics dont look that great.
post #130 of 1340
I am actually at 11'

At 11', I am getting a 92" image 16x9 diagonal (Its bigger in 16x10, but I don't know the value)
post #131 of 1340
The one complaint I have so far, is that the rainbow effect is quite a bit more noticeable than the sp4805. I am going to play with the settings as someone else had suggested a while ago to see if I can tame this down.
post #132 of 1340
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Originally Posted by nerfherder View Post

The one complaint I have so far, is that the rainbow effect is quite a bit more noticeable than the sp4805. I am going to play with the settings as someone else had suggested a while ago to see if I can tame this down.

Hmmm, don't like that report.
post #133 of 1340
Its not bad, especially after some calibration, but it is more noticable if you are looking for it.

Any one here use an ND2 filter? Or know of where I can get one for the 66?
post #134 of 1340
Hi. I followed the discussions and just joined. Like consciousness and hokie93, my only interest in this projector is for 3D TV and 3D blu-ray. I don't want to buy the HD66 and discover that the the 3D compatibilty is only for computer ?
Does anyone know anything about that ? is the optoma 3D ready technlogy compatible with blu-ray 3D that will star coming in a few weeks. I intent to read 3D blu-rays on PS3 since sony announced that PS3 will read them.
I can't afford missing Avatar in 3D.
thanks for your help
post #135 of 1340
can anyone share some custom settings? i just purchased this and am wondering what other levels people are using. i know ou of the box its way off. thanks for any help.
post #136 of 1340
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Originally Posted by Sorel View Post

Hi. I followed the discussions and just joined. Like consciousness and hokie93, my only interest in this projector is for 3D TV and 3D blu-ray. I don't want to buy the HD66 and discover that the the 3D compatibilty is only for computer ?
Does anyone know anything about that ? is the optoma 3D ready technlogy compatible with blu-ray 3D that will star coming in a few weeks. I intent to read 3D blu-rays on PS3 since sony announced that PS3 will read them.
I can't afford missing Avatar in 3D.
thanks for your help

It's very early right now so if you don't want to be an early adapter then sit on the sidelines till more information is available. Right now the only thing 3d is PC based so again just have to wait till stuff gets out into the pipeline. I think there will be adapters that can be retro-fit current displays to do some sort of 3d so that could be another avenue to checkout.
post #137 of 1340
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Originally Posted by imjay View Post

Okay - but I'll stay a bit "dense" for one more go cause I'm not sure I got a complete answer (no offense) - maybe I just still don't understand.

I sat in a theater and my eyeballs watched a screen image. Parts of that image looked out of whack but when I put the glasses on it became "3D".

The 3D screen image content appears on the theater screen at the same time. I'm not talking about dual 60 cycle stereo projection that requires shutter glasses. So, if my eyeballs can see the entire image why not a capture device or camera?

The Theater showing Avatar in 3D used simple passive glasses with polarized lenses - not shutter type. Cheap things that we were allowed to tote out of the theater and I am sitting here looking at them.

So, back to my question.

If you can capture the 3D screen image on the theater screen and then play those captured full screen images via a legacy PJ and wall screen and you wear the glasses why won't you see the screen image exactly as your eyes saw it in the theater?

In the theater, the separate images are happening in realtime. Your eyes have the opportunity, right then and there, to process the images separately with the glasses.

If you attempt to record the image via camcorder, you are "flattening" the image, and can't "spread it back out" at home. It's like looking at something with one eye-theres no depth until you open your other eye. The video camera lens is the "one eye"-it gets locked in forever like that (on tape). I've tried video taping a 3d movie and taking the polarized glasses home-didn't work-no surprise there.

I understand what you're asking, and it seems like it would work (that's why I tried it-lol). But it doesn't.
post #138 of 1340
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Originally Posted by nerfherder View Post

Its not bad, especially after some calibration, but it is more noticable if you are looking for it.

Any one here use an ND2 filter? Or know of where I can get one for the 66?

I dug up the Hoya 62mm ND2 filter that I used on my 4805 early in it's lamp life. Even though the 4805's lens was not threaded, a 62 mm filter would snug up enough to stay in place. The HD66 lens is much smaller, so I used a piece of tape to hold it in place. Works for me...

I'm sure they're available online.
post #139 of 1340
Looks like a great toy for gaming and occasional 3D BDS. The DLP is the best technology for 3D because there is no persistence. The reviews I have read about the technology cited that you could see a "ghosts" of the "wrong eye" on an LCD.

If you are buying this projector primarily as a movie projector (3D is a plus) then you should consider the contrast ratio (4000:1). I have the Panny AX200U which is 720p and the contrast is listed as 6000:1 at 2000 lumens. Very similar numbers.

Even though these numbers are for the most part "made up" I have a choice of watching BDs in my theater with the 105" screen and perfect sound or my family room on a Pioneer Kuro 60" 1080p plasma. I end up in the family room more because of the contrast ratio than the resolution. The contrast ratio of a $2000 Panny projector is similar at 100,000:1. Made up numbers but there is a difference when talking about orders of magnitude difference..

If you are interested in really understanding the difference go to your favorite brick and mortar and look at a Panny plasma vs a POS LCD (cheapest LCD in the store). That POS LCD will probably be around 4000:1 although they do get even worse. The Panny plasma in the range of 50,000:1. If you don't notice how washed out the cheap LCD looks by comparison then contrast ratio doesn't matter to you.

That being said this is a great value. But if you really are not that interested in 3D there are better projectors available for BD movies in that price range.

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post #140 of 1340
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Originally Posted by IUnknown View Post

That being said this is a great value. But if you really are not that interested in 3D there are better projectors available for BD movies in that price range.

Like what, for example? From what I've read, the HD65 is close to the top for this just over $600 price, and this one looks a tad better (at least brighter).
post #141 of 1340
Yeah. this is really cheap. The ones I was thinking of are still around $999 (Epson and Panny 720p).
post #142 of 1340
ok i need a 40-45 foot hdmi cable, should i wait for hdmi 1.4 to come out or should i just buy a 1.3. or does it not matter with a 720p projector, last i heard (i dunno if its true or not) that 1.3 will do 3-D but in 1080i or 720p. since the hd66 is 720p i dont see nothin wrong with it, but i just dont want to waste money on another cable if i dont have to.
post #143 of 1340
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Originally Posted by plee View Post

It's very early right now so if you don't want to be an early adapter then sit on the sidelines till more information is available. Right now the only thing 3d is PC based so again just have to wait till stuff gets out into the pipeline. I think there will be adapters that can be retro-fit current displays to do some sort of 3d so that could be another avenue to checkout.

Plee, thanks. I 'll follow your advice. Buy a standard full HD VP and wait for the 3D technology to be mature.
post #144 of 1340
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Originally Posted by plee View Post

Right now the only thing 3d is PC based so again just have to wait till stuff gets out into the pipeline.

Well, I've read several CES overviews that tell that Optoma was openly showing 3d from this projector at the show. Some even told their impressions of it... I think I remember one reviewer saying that it had an odd flicker to it but that he thought he might have had some over-used glasses, but he was still impressed with what he saw.

I admit that it's still very early on 3d, but this option would be a nice addition for those of us looking for a very bright projector... assuming that this one does a more than acceptable job at the normal stuff.

If this turns out to be a very bright version of the HD65 (and performs as well), then I may have found the projector I've been looking for.
post #145 of 1340
I've got an email in to XpanD as to weather their X102 - DLP-Link* 3D glasses will work with this beamer. The Nvidia** support is a ? mark and even if it happens for this Optoma it is a $$$ proposition between the glasses kit and the PC specs required. XpanD could be a turnkey 3D solution for this and the couple PS3 games currently supporting 3D.

(*DLP based tech that requires no emitter to sync glasses to screen.)
(**Proprietary emitter-based PC tech enabling dozens of games/movie support)
post #146 of 1340
From what I've read projectors that use shutter glasses require a silver screen. Do you need a silver screen to view 3D with this projector?
post #147 of 1340
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Originally Posted by Deja Vu View Post

From what I've read projectors that use shutter glasses require a silver screen. Do you need a silver screen to view 3D with this projector?

The shutter glasses do not require a silver screen, you are thinking of the glasses they use in the theaters.
post #148 of 1340
With now many stores sold out of these, I would have expected more user reviews of this projector.

There's another very bad review that appeared on Amazon that has sparked a lively discussion there. Sounds like user error is involved, but hard to tell.
post #149 of 1340
I'm only still seeing one bad review on Amazon. The other two are both complimentary. I'm still very intrigued with this one.
post #150 of 1340
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Originally Posted by Cubfan View Post

With now many stores sold out of these, I would have expected more user reviews of this projector.

There's another very bad review that appeared on Amazon that has sparked a lively discussion there. Sounds like user error is involved, but hard to tell.

When a PJ is sold out and there are very few reviews, comments, or horror stories that means things are going well. We AVS members are the only ones who don't just go watch our PJs and come back years later for info on a new one.

If things were going bad for this PJ, there would be a non-stop thread on it here already.
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