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Which 46" LED TV do you recommend?

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
Hi guys, we're looking for a 46" LED or LCD. We were drawn to the Samsung and worked ourselves up to the UN46B8000 because it's thin, plays PC formats of video off the USB Like AVIs and stuff and does Ethernet.

But then I started reading about ghosting problems, weird problems caused by non-local dimming and blown out colors and said to "heck with that".

So now I'm looking at the Sony KDL-46XBR8. This one is looking pretty sweet right now until I find a thread that points out why it sucks and I here LG makes a pretty good set also.

So I'd just like to ask what you all think?

This will replace our 12 year old 25" CRT that needs a good wack now and then to get the picture strait. I have a 10 year old Onkio 5.1 receiver that I'm sure I'll have to replace to properly switch the HD signal around.

We'll be using it in a well lit room with lots of sunny windows. My kids are 6 and 10 years so most of the time will be showing Spongebob and Scooby-Doo but the wife and I like movies after bedtime on weekends.

We do our gaming on PC's but I've been meaning to buy the kids a Wi or something after we get the new set. Also I'd like to build some kind of PC media center to get internet and store the kids movies on a hard drive hooked to the receiver if I can do on the cheap.

Thanks
Marc
post #2 of 16
The Samsung UN46B8500 is definitely the current king although at a hefty price tag. It incorporates local dimming while still having the slim design of the other TVs in the LED series.

The XBR8 isn't too far behind and is another good choice. If you are on a budget then you should give the LG 47HL90 a look too.
post #3 of 16
I'd like to think otherwise. RGB LED (only used on the XBR8), while not far beyond, is definitely more surperior to ordinary white LED that the B8500 uses in terms of color accuracy (which I'm big for )
I'm not quite sure about the 'thinness' factor, I could care less IMO... anyways;
In terms of PQ comparison and the current situation, get the XBR8 if available!!! The LG is also a great option...

but I'm wondering what factors did you read that points out that it 'sucks'?
post #4 of 16
not to hijack this thread but i am also thinking about these 2 set i.e. 46 xbr8 or b8000. bestbuy in my area is offering the xbr8 for 2100 out the door with a ps3. but i am also thinking of 52 xbr9. cuase i would like to have a bigger set but can't spring the cash for either the b8000 or xbr8 in a 50+ size screen. so do you guys think i should with the bigger 52" xbr9 and take it with it's flaws or give up approx 9" and get a better looking set???
post #5 of 16
I'm not a fan of ultra expensive TV's. For watching Spongebob an entry level 60hz will get the job done. All of the new generation LCD's look good, only videophiles can tell the difference between the entry level and high end sets on ordinary source material. On 1080p sources such as Blu-ray is when the high end TV's stand out. Depending on viewing distance look at some 52" sets, not many will complain their flat screen is too big

If you are building an HTPC don't bother spending extra for Ethernet/USB drive etc, you HTPC will do all that. make sure the TV you buy has a means of turning off overscan (most newer sets do) for the PC.
post #6 of 16
post #7 of 16
I also recommend
Samsung UN46B6000 46-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LED HDTV
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...SIN=B001UHMVC2
Samsung UN46B8000 46-Inch 1080p 240Hz LED HDTV
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...SIN=B001ZUZ10I

The picture is great. The contrast ratio, rated at 3,000,000 to 1, exceeds that of older LCD TVs.
post #8 of 16
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Originally Posted by lazyman6 View Post

I also recommend
Samsung UN46B6000 46-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LED HDTV
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...SIN=B001UHMVC2
Samsung UN46B8000 46-Inch 1080p 240Hz LED HDTV
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...SIN=B001ZUZ10I

The picture is great. The contrast ratio, rated at 3,000,000 to 1, exceeds that of older LCD TVs.

Dynamic contrast numbers are inflated BS - nothing more.

The static panel contrast, and that's the one you should look out for, is much, much smaller. Perhaps 3000-4000 : 1.
post #9 of 16
I don't recommend any "edge lit" or "full array" LED sets. Thinness of the set doesn't offset hits on picture uniformity, black levels and viewing angles of "edge lit" sets. The only benefit of "full array" over CCFL is power consumption and even that would take upwards of 20 years to make up the difference.

As such my suggestions are only for local dimming sets. Here they are in order of price/performance based on deals available right now.

Matte screened (will make a big difference in a room with lots of windows)
Sony XBR8 (via the BestBuy PS3 Bundle)
LG47LH90

Glossy Screened (Deeper blacks, but not as good in room with lots of windows)
Toshiba 46SV670U
Samsung UN46B8500
post #10 of 16
Thread Starter 
Quote:


"but I'm wondering what factors did you read that points out that it 'sucks'?"



I was talking about a lot of videophiles seemed really disappointed with the Samsung UE**B6000 caused by the auto dimming:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHv-sonQu8I
Comment starts at 4:00 into the video.

Then I found a long thread somewhere where people were very unhappy with the UE46B7000 because of this also.
If the UE**B8000 uses a different dimming system then it might be not suffer from this. If so I'd like to know. I'm no videophile so I might not even notice.

But because of this I was looking at the Sony.

Quote:


"I'm not a fan of ultra expensive TV's. For watching Spongebob"



I've said for years that I'll not buy a $5,000 TV for Scooby-Doo but now that the wife is really wanting a new TV and we're in better financial shape I'm just trying to look ahead.
With the TV I think we will need a new receiver and maybe a blue ray player. And I hope this will be our main entrainment system for the next 10 to15 years. When the kids get older my hope is the set will stand up well to whatever new technology comes out.

On the other hand what Servicetech571
Quote:


All of the new generation LCD's look good, only videophiles can tell the difference between the entry level and high end sets on ordinary source material. On 1080p sources such as Blue ray is when the high end TV's stand out. Depending on viewing distance look at some 52" sets, not many will complain their flat screen is too big

This sounds very wise to me so now I'm looking at a Bestbuy offer for a PS3, Sony KDL-46v5100 LCD, a game and a movie for $950. But will I be sorry I didn't get the $2,000 Sony because we have netflix and access to lots of blue ray titles.


Thanks again
Marc
post #11 of 16
For the best picture ever:
Get the screen-play to the movie, have your neighbors recite the lines, and sit back and watch the lifelike action!!
post #12 of 16
If you are concerned about Netflix access get a $99 Ruku box. I see a PC is your sig, how about an HTPC of the new TV?

Look to the past on technology, how many spent $5K for CRT rear projection "futureproof" sets 5 years ago that are worth $500 today?
post #13 of 16
Thread Starter 
Thanks guys,
I just bought the Sony XBR8 (via the BestBuy PS3 Bundle)

With an extra movie, extra gamepad and the PS3 remote that wasn't included it was $2,300 after taxes.
I pick up Thursday.

Now how about those HTMI cables? I need two and Best Buy sells them for $50. Where can I get a better deal for good quality cables?

Also a wall mount. Best Buy wants $375 for the pivoting swing out but I seem to remember Costco had them for like $175.

Thanks
post #14 of 16
Monoprice has MUCH better pricing on wall mounts and HDMI cables. Most big box stores are just nuts on what they are asking for them.
post #15 of 16
Samsung LN46B640 while it was on sale for $999 last week at BB.
Maybe it will go on sale again. That was very good value for the dollar.

Edit: Sorry, didn't see that you already made your purchase, just read thread title and replied.
post #16 of 16
Congrats on your purchase!
I would recommend MonoPrice. Nobody beats their price and a HDMI cable.. is just a HDMI cable. For the low price they offered, you can afford to replace the cable, if needed in future but I dont think so. My friend has been using 20ft long hdmi cables for a year just fine and going strong.
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