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post #601 of 632
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Originally Posted by orangedrone View Post

Picture Mode - Standard
Backlight - 10
Contrast - 100
Bright - 47
Sharp - 30
Color - 74-85
Tint - G50/R50

Picture Options
Color tone - Normal
Digital NR - Low
HDMI Black - Low
Film Mode- -Off
Blue Only -Off
Automotion Pro - Custom - Blur - 10 Judder - 2
Smart LED - On

And most importantly:

Gamma - +3!!!!

Also:

Black Adjust - Dark
Dynamic Contrast - High
Edge Enhancement - On

Warning: These are melt off your face settings.. but, you'll be lov'n every second of it!

Just a point of clarification for you: If you have Digital NR active, but use anything but Sharpness 0, you're defeating your own settings if you are using HDMI. Sharpness does nothing but add noise to a purely digital signal. Unlike analog signals, digital is either all there, or not there at all. There is no need for sharpness (or edge enhancement).
post #602 of 632
Can someone please pm me the 1009 firmware file? Thanks in advance.
post #603 of 632
Need some help.....I don't want to use the WiFi Dongle. I would like to plug an ethernet cable into the back of the tv, but it is not your typical plug. It looks like a USB plug. Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong? Did I miss something? Thanks
post #604 of 632
Uhhh. It's a standard Ethernet cable without the wi-fi dongle.
post #605 of 632
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Originally Posted by Gatorok View Post
Need some help.....I don't want to use the WiFi Dongle. I would like to plug an ethernet cable into the back of the tv, but it is not your typical plug. It looks like a USB plug. Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong? Did I miss something? Thanks
You must be missing something, as my 46" has a CAT 5 LAN connection that takes a RJ-45 connector (standard for ethernet cable). It is located on the back towards the bottom of all the connections and to the left of the Component in and left of the 75 ohm antenna in connections. It is the connection closest to the center of the TV and is marked LAN.
post #606 of 632
Same thing I said. Only I said it much shorter lol.
post #607 of 632
so stay away from the 1010 f/w update? I noticed it was available to me yesterday.

also, anyone tried these?

http://www.tweaktv.com/tweak-my-tv/c...55b8500-3.html
post #608 of 632
If nothing is wrong with your set then I'd advise you shouldn't update.
post #609 of 632
I wish it was that simple. It is not a RJ45 connector. That is the problem. It almost looks like an HDMI connector, but it isn't. I know what a CAT 5 connector looks like and it isn't there. It says LAN over the port, but it is nothing I have seen before There was a thread on here that showed the connector cable, but I can't find it.
post #610 of 632
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Originally Posted by TroyBoy30 View Post

so stay away from the 1010 f/w update? I noticed it was available to me yesterday.

also, anyone tried these?

http://www.tweaktv.com/tweak-my-tv/c...55b8500-3.html

No.. I can't see how Native colorspace can be at all accurate.
post #611 of 632
Hi...I have been lurking here for a while and have read the tips on how and why one should calibrate their television.

However, I am a bit overwhelmed by it all and was wondering if anyone could provide a good referral to someone who I could pay to do it for me. I am in Pasadena, California.

Thanks!
post #612 of 632
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Originally Posted by calpurnia View Post
Hi...I have been lurking here for a while and have read the tips on how and why one should calibrate their television.

However, I am a bit overwhelmed by it all and was wondering if anyone could provide a good referral to someone who I could pay to do it for me. I am in Pasadena, California.

Thanks!
Check the calibration forum: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=139. The pros hang out there and it has threads on finding one in your area.

-Bill
post #613 of 632
Thanks!

I didn't know about that particular area. I was pretty much just on this thread.
post #614 of 632
Are those calibration disk good enough to make the necessarily adjustments? For example, Crutchfield has such a disk they use for their sets and hence my reason for asking.
post #615 of 632
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Originally Posted by Jerry06 View Post

Are those calibration disk good enough to make the necessarily adjustments? For example, Crutchfield has such a disk they use for their sets and hence my reason for asking.

There are several discs good enough for the basic user adjustments done by eye: black level, white level, color, tint, sharpness. Beyond that you need meters for gamma and the primary grayscales. I do just the basic eyeball stuff.

What is Crutchfield offering? They are not claiming to do pro-level calibration on their products for free, are they? That costs several hundred dollars in the home.

-Bill
post #616 of 632
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post


There are several discs good enough for the basic user adjustments done by eye: black level, white level, color, tint, sharpness. Beyond that you need meters for gamma and the primary grayscales. I do just the basic eyeball stuff.

What is Crutchfield offering? They are not claiming to do pro-level calibration on their products for free, are they? That costs several hundred dollars in the home.

-Bill

They are just offering a DIY disk as you described. I did see Best Buy offers a professional calibration that I often wonder if its worth it.
post #617 of 632
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Originally Posted by Jerry06 View Post

They are just offering a DIY disk as you described. I did see Best Buy offers a professional calibration that I often wonder if its worth it.

There are one or more Best Buy threads in the calibration forum. Reports vary.

In my opinion: everyone ought to know how to do the basic user adjustments and recognize what these do to the test patterns. Beyond that you can decide whether to hire a pro or go deeper with your own gear.

I just helped an old friend with the basic tuning of his new Sony LCD. He and all his guests thought I was a total video god, but it was just the basic eyeballing that anyone can do.

The punch line: it really did made a vast difference in video quality. Apart from the basic level adjustments, out of the box the image had large overscan and sharpness set to Very Ugly, which just killed the picture. 99% of the public just live with terrible results.

-Bill
post #618 of 632
What does LED motion plus do? I understand its supposed to reduce blur per the link

http://ars.samsung.com/customer/usa/...54&AT_ID=95858

However, when I turn it on, it significantly dims the picture. IE, everything else the same, LED motion plus on drops the brightness significantly. Why does it do that?? I've been toggling it back and forth and its quite obvious. Does it matter if Smart LED is turned on/off at the same time (I have it turned on).
post #619 of 632
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Originally Posted by tjf120 View Post
What does LED motion plus do? I understand its supposed to reduce blur per the link

http://ars.samsung.com/customer/usa/...54&AT_ID=95858

However, when I turn it on, it significantly dims the picture. IE, everything else the same, LED motion plus on drops the brightness significantly. Why does it do that?? I've been toggling it back and forth and its quite obvious. Does it matter if Smart LED is turned on/off at the same time (I have it turned on).
It cycles the backlight on and off completely at some frequency, which causes the total image brightness to dim. I don't know how much this helps motion blur, or if there is an interaction with Smart LED (which enables local dimming).

-Bill
post #620 of 632
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post
It cycles the backlight on and off completely at some frequency, which causes the total image brightness to dim. I don't know how much this helps motion blur, or if there is an interaction with Smart LED (which enables local dimming).

-Bill
Thanks Bill...so if I'm going to calibrate the 8500, do you think its better to have Smart LED and LED motion plus set to on and then do the calibration?
post #621 of 632
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Originally Posted by tjf120 View Post
Thanks Bill...so if I'm going to calibrate the 8500, do you think its better to have Smart LED and LED motion plus set to on and then do the calibration?
The general advice I've read is to use the same settings during calibration that you'll be viewing with.

You want Smart LED on because otherwise it's no longer a local dimming display. I don't use the motion plus setting.

-Bill
post #622 of 632
Thanks again Bill...do you have an 8500?

Are your settings posted in one of the threads?

I use 2 settings - 'standard' for daytime viewing, and 'Movie' for Night viewing. Trying to calibrate those 2. I have a couple of the BD calibration discs.
post #623 of 632
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Originally Posted by tjf120 View Post

Thanks again Bill...do you have an 8500?

Are your settings posted in one of the threads?

I use 2 settings - 'standard' for daytime viewing, and 'Movie' for Night viewing. Trying to calibrate those 2. I have a couple of the BD calibration discs.

I've had a UN46B8500 since October. I haven't posted settings (or used any).

I'm still experimenting: I waver between using the lowest values for Black Tone and Dynamic Contrast and just turning them off. I'm told that gamma and the RGB settings can't be done without a meter and experience, so I've left them alone.

I have frame interpolation on at the lowest values. I do not find this perceptible but it helped with some video hesitation I noted in the early days.

For the standard settings I use the Spears & Munsil and the AVS HD 709 discs.

-Bill
post #624 of 632
I'd be curious to see your settings. A lot of the posts on here have the motion plus on, I find it too dim.
post #625 of 632
Motion plus seems only beneficial to have only when watching sports. Other then that. I wouldn't bother. But I always have local dimming on. Otherwise. Why they heck did I buy the set?
post #626 of 632
Okay, so my 55' 8500 is a couple of years old now. The PQ has dulled a small bit and I'm wondering what setting changes you guys make to bring it back to pop; brightness, backlight, contrast...?
post #627 of 632
Dulled! Really,mine is same age and i had a D-Nice calibration bout 15 months ago and it looks the same as day it was calibrated
post #628 of 632
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Originally Posted by mattg3 View Post

Dulled! Really,mine is same age and i had a D-Nice calibration bout 15 months ago and it looks the same as day it was calibrated

Hey Mattg3, long time no chat!

It may just be that my eyes have gotten used to the set and I'm ready to fool with it again. I did not have the calibration done, so I can play around a bit. I'm still extremely happy with the set. No issues at all!
post #629 of 632
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Originally Posted by A10 Titan View Post

Okay, so my 55' 8500 is a couple of years old now. The PQ has dulled a small bit and I'm wondering what setting changes you guys make to bring it back to pop; brightness, backlight, contrast...?

Cool, I think you just gave me an excuse to pull out my meter and check the calibration on my set this weekend. My wife will be mad at you for this.
post #630 of 632
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Originally Posted by A10 Titan View Post

Hey Mattg3, long time no chat!

It may just be that my eyes have gotten used to the set and I'm ready to fool with it again. I did not have the calibration done, so I can play around a bit. I'm still extremely happy with the set. No issues at all!

I think the best hd experience i have had on this set is watching the hd version of survivor.Dont have the words to express how the pq knocks me out using D-Nice calibrated day setting in room with a lumens light behind 8500 as only light source.Take a look at it when show airs next wed night.If it doesnt knock you over get on D-Nice calibration tour for next year.Well worth the money.
Ive seen the sharp elite and spent lots of time with it in best buy and my calibrated 8500 I feel has a better picture. Have great holiday matt
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