2010 New Blu Ray Players Rumor and Discussion Thread - Page 11

Good insight - thanks.

My x-box streaming Netflix has been convenient, but slow loading and poor quality mostly. Perhaps that's the nature of streaming content overall? I would like to move off having a Live! gold account just so I can stream and let my kids game online. Monthly residuals are killing the budget in this economy.

Hummnnn....

I love that the Sony BDP-S570 plays SACDs too! DNLA, Wi-Fi, 3D, $250. Wow!!! Blu-ray is really flying gonna fly out the door now!

An interesting review of the Panasonic BD-85, European model:

http://www.trustedreviews.com/home-c...-ray-Player/p1

For 300 quids it's a bit expensive !

panasonic has some specs of the new players on their site

Yep, and US prices too. 200 for the 65 and 300 for the 85. No mention to DLNA and what file types are supported.

For video, the 85k only lists Divx and Divx HD as video formats available via USB. An early review from the UK doesn't put that to the test. 7.1 analog audio outputs and great video.

Last year's Japanese BD60 listed DLNA support, but from the web page it seemed to be mainly for network playback of recordings made on the Panasonic DIGA DVR and a Japanese video streaming download service (actvila). I don't know if it would work with any generic DLNA server. I had wondered if the DLNA function could be unlockable in non-Japanese 2009 players, but I think that's unlikely.

We'll have to see what they do with DLNA on the upcoming 2010 models.

would I need a 3d TV to ply 3d titles or would I need just a 3d player?

I am interested in SACD capability. How good is it on this palyer? Do you guys think this player uses internal DACs or via HDMI it would use receiver's DACs acting as transport?

According to the owner's manual, and confirmed by Stereophile's Kal Rubinson while he was at CES 2010, these Sony Blu-ray players can output the native DSD bitstream using their HDMI outputs. So it's up to whatever is doing the DSD decoding on the other end of that HDMI cable....

As for internal DAC, I wonder if they will do a conversion from DSD to PCM, like Oppo's BDP-80, before output thru analog.

Yes.

-Bill

LG BD 570 picture:

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/pictu...7&source=ebay#

CNET review of LG BD570 and BD590:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10449166-1.html

LG BD550 and 570 are available now here: $199 and $279.99, respectively:
http://www.electroline4u.com/_e/Blu_...Ray_Player.htm
I'd love to hear from someone who has either model about picture and sound quality!

Sony BDP-S370 vs. BDP-S470 vs. BDP-S570

In addition to Blu-ray 3D support, when connected to a broadband Internet network, all of the new models instantly stream movies, videos, music, and more from Netflix, Amazon Video On Demand, YouTube, Slacker Internet Radio, Pandora (coming spring 2010), NPR, Sony Pictures, Sony Music, and over 25 total providers through the Sony BRAVIA Internet Video platform. Unique to the new models, users with an iPhone or iPod touch device can control the players using a free app called "BD Remote" that can be downloaded from the Apple App store. The models also offer improved start up and disc loading performance. When the quick start feature is turned on, the start-up time is quicker and disc loading is faster than previous models. The stand-alone Blu-ray Disc players can start-up from power off in about three seconds. Specifications:

BDP-S370 Blu-ray Disc Player

* Full HD 1080p single-disc Blu-ray Disc, DVD, CD, SACD player
* BRAVIA Monolithic Design
* BRAVIA Internet Video and BD-LIVE
* Entertainment Database Browser with Gracenote technology
* Wireless LAN Ready (USB wireless LAN adapter sold separately)
* BD Remote (iPhone/iPod touch remote control – free app.)
* Photo/music/video playback via USB and DLNA (with firmware update)
* DVD upscaling to 1080p with Precision Cinema HD Upscaling
* Dolby TrueHD and dts-HD Master Audio decoding
* Availability: February
* Price: $179.99

BDP-S470

Like the BDP-S370, plus:

* Blu-ray 3D ready (with firmware update available this summer)
* Price: $199.99

BDP-S570

Like the BDP-S470, plus:

* IP Content Noise Reduction
* Built-in Wi-Fi Wireless (802.11) with Wi-Fi Protected Setup (WPS)
* Built-in 1GB Memory
* Price: $249.99

BDV-E570 Blu-ray Disc Home Theater System

* 1000W Full HD 1080p Blu-ray Disc™, DVD, CD, SA-CD 5.1 channel home theater system
* Blu-ray 3D ready (with firmware update available this summer)
* Monolithic Design
* BRAVIA Internet Video and BD-LIVE
* S-AIR ready for wireless rear and wireless multi-room speakers (sold separately)
* Wireless LAN Ready with included USB Wireless LAN adapter (802.11)
* Entertainment Database Browser with Gracenote technology
* BD Remote (iPhone/iPod touch remote control – free app.)
* Photo/Music/Video Playback via USB and DLNA (with firmware update)
* iPod audio playback via USB
* DVD upscaling to 1080p with Precision Cinema HD Upscaling
* Dolby TrueHD and dts-HD Master Audio decoding
* Built-in 1GB Memory
* Availability: March
* Price: $549.99

BDV-E770W Blu-ray Disc Home Theater System

Like the BDV-E570, plus:

* IP Content Noise Reduction
* Integrated S-AIR™ Wireless Rear Speaker
* Availability: March
* Price: $649.99

more specs: http://www.marketwire.com/press-rele...ay-1115051.htm

From what I can find is that even LG can't provide a definite retailer yet.

When I company I never heard of says "usually ships in 7 to 10 days" on the website you know what you can expect.

jr has pre orders too

Sony's sonystyle.com website shows their S370 and S570 models both currently available. Also, you can download the product manuals for all 3 models (370, 470, 570).

Hopefully this answers that question:

http://hd.engadget.com/2010/02/16/so...with-hdmi-1-3/

I just received my new Sony BDP-S370 from Sony Style (not interested in 3D) this morning. Will hook it up this evening after work and will report back later. Please feel free to ask any questions.

Jr.

Congrats! You have the right to open the owners thread and give us your "first impressions".

Noticed the new Sony 570 does not include analog 5.1 or 7.1 any longer, is there a higher Sony model that will offer this. I am looking Oppo cause SACD but I also want netflix and wireless connection. Maybe the new Sony is exactly what I want but I need analog 5.1.

There is no player that can do Netflix/SACD/5.1 analog out. The Panasonic bd85, new Samsung and new LG have Netflix , 5.1 analog out and wireless but no SACD. Your best bet is a player+Roku box.

Thanks, I do have my PS3 which I can use for netflix and bd live stuff so maybe the oppo is my best bet then.

Question: Does Sony's 370 and 570 Blu Ray players keeps SACD discs in the DSD format when decoding, or does it convert to PCM? Also has anyone heard SACD discs on either of these? If so- how does it sound? I have an older Sony SACD player XE670 I'd like to get rid of, but if the new players don't improve or even compare, then I may end up keeping the old player still.

From page 23 of the S370's owner's manual, it looks like you can choose to have it output either DSD or PCM over HDMI.

Audio Settings>DSD Output Mode:
On>Outputs DSD signals from the HDMI OUT jack when playing a Super Audio CD. When “On” is selected, analog signals are not output when playing a Super Audio CD.

Off>Outputs PCM signals from the HDMI OUT jack when playing a Super Audio CD.

The receiver must accept DSD through HDMI . Old receivers normally don't and the player must output PCM in this case. Some receivers accept DSD but convert it to PCM anyway. My Pioneer receiver can take DSD but must be set to "pure direct" to avoid conversion. In few days I will have my 570 and can do some tests.

No I don't mean does it output DSD over HDMI. I will be using the RCA outs for audio from this deck, so I need to know if the deck itself converts to PCM in the D/A converter or not. HDMI means nothing to me.

The Sony 370/470/570 has no 5/7.1 analog out. You can only have SACD audio using HDMI , DSD or PCM. If you use the RCA you don't get SACD, period.