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post #1 of 37
12/11/09 at 11:18am
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Well, Costco had it on Black Friday for $99 with instant rebate and so I went for it. I actually went a week later, Thursday after Black Friday, and Costco had all their yellow BF shelf tags still on all the products in the warehouse, and so I picked up two of these units for the $99 price. I like that. I hope they do that every year. I hate crowds and waking up when its still dark. I would never sit in line overnight to give my money to someone. But that's me.

I didn't even know this model existed. The 2nd generation Vizio BD player.
I only knew of the VBR100 until now.
Both are still on Vizio's web site.

I've owned a half dozen HD DVD units, a XDE 500, and 4 Sony BDP players in the past.

This one seems to be pretty decent. Everything loads pretty fast.
Hooked it up to my Vizio 50 PDP and my Vizio 55 LCD HDTVs.
Going to try it on my friends Panasonic PDP 50 this weekend.

Got some of my old BD discs out and took it for a spin:
BDA test disc
Pixar Up
Dark Knight
Transporter
Shakira
Pirates

Don't really like paying the expensive BD disc title prices, so got a bunch of these locally from folks unloading on craigslist. $5-10 each is something I can tolerate.

Not as good SD DVD upconversion as my XDE which is my default SD player.
Was checking out the Toshiba BDX2000, but from what' I've read, this one seems to be as good or better. The Toshiba is the same as a Magnavox?!

Haven't used my A30 in awhile. I guess it's hard when there is no more new titles of software releases...

I was looking for other owners reviews and comments but nothing on the VBR110. Very unusual for avsforum.

So hopefully this is my attempt at a 'first post' of a product discussion here.

Hope to hear what you like, don't like about it.

Happy Holidays!
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post #2 of 37
12/12/09 at 11:41am
I picked up one of these on black friday as well. So far I'm very pleased with it for the money. I'm hoping to see some more feedback from other owners as well.
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post #3 of 37
12/12/09 at 12:43pm
Tried a VBR100 from Wal-mart in September. Its upconverting of SD-DVDs was so poor that when it began freezing on nearly every BR disc I played there was no reason to keep it. Plus the remote range was hideous. Plus the audio was very weak. If the 110 is anything like it...

I bought an $80 Black Friday Toshiba BR player and while it doesn't upscale as well as my XDE-600 or Oppo DV-981H it does a great job with BR discs both from a play back standpoint and IQ (and has none of the other deficiencies that the Vizio did). Yes, its made by Funai (as are many other players), but that's not a bad thing. I would take a Funai over a Desay (the Vizio's OEM).
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post #4 of 37
12/19/09 at 2:19pm
We picked up one of these on Black Friday from Costco as well.

Afer a few weeks playing with it, we've pretty much decided it sucks.

I mean it loads fast, its very responsive to the remote inputs, it plays every disc we've thrown at it.

I guess for the average guy out there looking for a solidly built, no problems, bluray player its great.

But the picture quality just looks flat compared to my PS3 and Panny BD60. I mean noticeably flat.

I tried recalibrating the TV, but no matter what I did, the picture from the Vizio BD player just looks soft compared to the PS3 and BD60
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post #5 of 37
12/23/09 at 7:04am
I also recently bought the Vizio VBR110 Blu-Ray Player on Black Friday, and was very pleased until last night. I recently got "(500) Days of Summer", but it won't play. I get as far as the menu screen, but once there I'm unable to use the control. Has anyone else experienced any similar problems? I've searched the Vizio website for firmware updates, but haven't found any. Is there a firmware update yet for this model? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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post #6 of 37
12/24/09 at 1:57am
I had the same exact problem. I have played several dvds on this player, but when I put in 500 days of summer I couldn't get it to play past the topic menu. It had a message that said you may have to update your dvd player. I hooked it up to the internet and there are no options to update software. I think I may have bought a bad player. I am going to call VIZIO tomorrow. If anyone has any advice please let use kno.
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post #7 of 37
12/24/09 at 11:25am
OPPO owners reported problems with this disc. OPPO has already published a firmware update that fixes the problem.
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post #8 of 37
12/25/09 at 9:13am
Question, I purchased this for my family, and when i hooked it up through HDMI everything seemed to be fine at first but out of now where the screen had a purple haze on it. Turned the player on and off and now it doesn't work through HDMI screen flickers from a dark purple haze and every 5 seconds you can see the home menu but only for a second and its still in the purple haze. I tried the regular components with it and the blu ray play works fine...

Any solutions?

My guess would be a bad HDMI connection but I am asking you guys since you know more than i do.

If this is a retarded noob question I am sorry but I haven't had time to reseach the forums much.
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post #9 of 37
12/27/09 at 3:20pm
Looking for a code to use in my Sony RM-YD029 remote control to operate the Vizio VBR110 blu-ray player.

Thanks for any suggestions...
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post #10 of 37
12/29/09 at 1:56pm
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Originally Posted by jimsfield View Post

OPPO owners reported problems with this disc. OPPO has already published a firmware update that fixes the problem.

That's great. Now only if VIZIO would do the same my life would be much happier
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post #11 of 37
12/31/09 at 1:14am
My player wouldn't play the Star Trek BD and completely freezes up, requiring unplugging to get the disc out. I hope they come out with new firmware soon or it's going back to costco...
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post #12 of 37
12/31/09 at 8:19am
Hello Fellow 110 owners.

Im about to return Mine but before doing so wanted to make a last ditch effort to rule out User error aka me being a dumbass.

I have a problem with my unit sending multi channel surround to my receiver via hdmi LPCM.

When using the pcm option for hdmi in the player setup menu, it only send out 2 channel audio to my receiver. It does so regardless of what bd audio setting I choose.

My receiver is a marantz sr5002. Although it does not decode True HD is is HDMI 7.1 LPCM capable. All the lgacy Dolby D stuff plays flawlessly through the Bitstream setting though. The display is awesome. I am bummed though as I wanted something that could provide internal decoding for the modern codecs. I am also bummed that it doesnt decode dtsMA, however I can get by without....I guess.

Is My unit defective or is it me?
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post #13 of 37
1/5/10 at 9:47pm
I contacted someone at VIZIO, and they suggested putting a thumb drive into the port on the back. Some movies have too much content, and can cause issues like getting frozen. I'm going to try this to see if it works **fingers crossed**
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post #14 of 37
1/7/10 at 2:51pm
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Originally Posted by switcHUNDREDS View Post

I contacted someone at VIZIO, and they suggested putting a thumb drive into the port on the back. Some movies have too much content, and can cause issues like getting frozen. I'm going to try this to see if it works **fingers crossed**

Tried this with an external drive and thumb drive with no luck. Can't get any Disney discs to play, but was able to finesse Star trek into working by selecting the popup/title menu button right after loading (20% success rate). Where's the firmware update!?
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post #15 of 37
1/7/10 at 3:03pm
Yeah, I tried it last night, and nothing The worse part is that I no longer have my receipt, or box Luckily, they (VIZIO) said to give Costco a call at 866-861-0450 with my member ID number, and they can do a conference call and give us a verbal proof of purchase. As long as I can find a box the player fits in, I can ship it that way.
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post #16 of 37
1/23/10 at 12:46pm
Hi all...

Well,this is lame. I finally got around to fixing the broken Ethernet cable to the living room, and now I've got a connection again.

So I thought I'd give the BD-Live stuff a spin. I've only got one Blu-Ray disc at the moment, The Hangover. So I selected the Blu-Ray Live features, and it loaded (didn't complain about no network connectivity as before), but now I've got a web page that wants a username and password. And uhm, plugging a keyboard into the USB port produces an error (I believe it's only for storage devices -- worked for displaying JPGs off of one of my SD cards w/ a reader attached.)

SO.... wow. Could it be that Warner Bros. doesn't detect the Vizio Blu-Ray player and thinks it's just a web browser, so it doesn't bypass the login? If so... hrm, who to complain to?

I also tried playing the Star Trek (2009) Special Features disc and it never loaded. That was my brother's though, so I haven't had a chance to try it now that my network is working. Still, it'd be lame if a disc simply refused to load w/o any user notification.

Glad I saved the box for this POS, and hopefully I can dig up the receipt as well...
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post #17 of 37
2/10/10 at 10:22pm
AKishkovsky, +1 here on only being able to get 2-channel PCM audio through HDMI. My player is connected to an H/K 354. This means that I can't get Dolby Digital from movies that support it and have to resort to Logic 7 "fake" surround modes (which sound pretty good btw).

Has anyone else experienced this? The manual suggests that there is a bitstream mode, but the HDMI audio setting is greyed out on the audio setup menu.... go figure.

Cheers.
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post #18 of 37
2/14/10 at 5:45pm
It turns out that it is possible to set the HDMI to bitstreaming, but you have to make sure that there's no disc inserted. I was able to do that and watched my first DTS HD Master audio enabled movie. Awesome! I'm pretty happy with this player now. It's much quieter than the other Samsung player that I have.
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post #19 of 37
2/16/10 at 7:36am
In general, the VBR110 has worked very well for me. Yesterday I encountered an issue though and am wondering if anyone else has had the same problem. I bought the Death Race blu ray and wanted to check it out. I have my player set to use external storage for BD-Live, and when I tried to play the disc, it would hang after the unrated/theatrical choice screen. I did a hard reset and found that the setting causing the issue was the external storage option. If set to the player internal storage, the disc plays without issue. Anyone else had this problem with any discs? Thanks!
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post #20 of 37
2/16/10 at 7:30pm
I assume that you're using a USB flash external drive? I remember reading in the manual that it has to be formatted as FAT32 and 1GB in size. Is this the case for you? Sorry, no hands-on experience here.
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post #21 of 37
2/17/10 at 4:34pm
I checked and the flash drive is formatted correctly. The manual says at least 1GB of free space, so it can be any size as long as it's formatted correctly. I am totally at a loss about this because today I tried it again and Death Race played just fine with the external storage enabled.
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post #22 of 37
2/19/10 at 9:27pm
Hi,

Today, I played the Mission Impossible III DVD on my player. Then, I tried playing the Star Trek: Voyage Home and it got stuck with 00:00:00 on the player's front display and the player was unresponsive to remote or power/eject buttons. Had to unplug it, which is a pain in my setup. Then I tried The International and the same thing happened. Just by coincidence, I noticed that both of these titles have a TrueHD audio track; no idea whether this has any relevance but it's a common denominator. I have the player plugged through HDMI to an H/K 354 receiver.

Has anyone experienced this problem with these or other titles?

Thanks in advance.

Update: I called Vizio tech support. They acknowledged that there's a problem playing "some" movies. They listed two other than the ones I'm having trouble with. The root cause is due to a "licensing" issue that requires a firmware fix if they overcome the legal stuff. The player has all the licensing logos related to the movies I'm playing, so I don't buy their story. Sounds like a bug to me. No ETA on a fix, so I'm out of luck for now. Might return the player.
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post #23 of 37
2/20/10 at 9:27am
I just tried using my Sansa Fuze with my Vizio Blu-Ray player via the USB connection. According to the Vizio manual, I should be able to access my music files thru the "Media Player" on-screen. But it doesn't seem to be reading my Sansa Fuze...I don't see my files. Has anyone else had this problem?
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post #24 of 37
3/4/10 at 9:22am
drzoom1, I'm having the same problem. I bought this for my mom and got her 2 blue rays to get her started. Taken and Die Hard, and they both lock up the machine and I need to pull the power to get them out. I am not going to bother with Calling Vizio, it is just going back. That is unacceptable to me. major hassle for me and my mom.

db
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post #25 of 37
3/7/10 at 7:18pm
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Originally Posted by dbetz View Post

drzoom1, I'm having the same problem. I bought this for my mom and got her 2 blue rays to get her started. Taken and Die Hard, and they both lock up the machine and I need to pull the power to get them out. I am not going to bother with Calling Vizio, it is just going back. That is unacceptable to me. major hassle for me and my mom.

db

I bid farewell to the VBR-110 today. I bought 3 BD movies today and it wouldn't play 2 of them. Good riddance!
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post #26 of 37
4/10/10 at 4:38pm
I just got one of these free from Vizio for participating in their 'VIP' program, where I got one of their TVs a few months early and evaluated it (though if they'll actually use my suggestions remains to be seen.) I don't think I'm going to bother keeping it hooked up- biggest flaw is it doesn't output multichannel PCM- any Blu-Ray discs that have uncompressed PCM soundtracks get downmixed to 2-channel. Updated the firmware and it still does it. FAIL.

Seemed decent for regular DVD playback, but big flaw there is discs that use the multi-angle function get a camera graphic displayed on the screen, and there's no way to get rid of it. I've heard horror stories about players doing this ever since DVD came out, but I'd managed never to see one for myself until now. The remote doesn't even have an Angle button on it; you have to bring up a sub-menu to change camera angles- admittedly there aren't a whole lot of discs that use this feature, but it still fails because of that.

It will play PAL format DVDs, but only converted to NTSC, so the frame rate on material shot on video is wrong (looks more like film than video- I have another player that outputs a PAL signal which my receiver can pass on to the TV and display properly). I haven't found a region hack for it, though someone on Ebay is selling a bunch of these players claiming they are region-free so there's some way to do it out there.

I'll keep this thing stored since you can never have too many DVD players and I don't think I could sell it for too much, and there may be fixes later for the problems it has, but if I'd bought this it would be going back to the store!
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post #27 of 37
5/6/10 at 11:20am
I also had the same problem when I tried to play 500 Days of Summer on myVBR110. but I went to Vizio's homepage and they had a Firmware update available and SHAZAM, I can play the movie now. If anyone has problems using the download (I did) let me know and I can talk you through what The tech guy told me.
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post #28 of 37
5/7/10 at 10:52pm
I'm having problems installing the firmware update. It freezes on the the "searching for upgrade file". Can anyone please help?
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post #29 of 37
5/15/10 at 12:17pm
Does anyone know if the VBR110 can do Netflix? I just looked over the firmware image and I see that there are Netflix SSL certificates embedded in it:

Code:
Certificate:
    Data:
        Version: 3 (0x2)
        Serial Number: 1 (0x1)
        Signature Algorithm: sha1WithRSAEncryption
        Issuer: C=US, O=Netflix, Inc., OU=(c) 2005 Netflix, Inc. - For authorized use only, OU=Electronic Delivery Service, CN=Primary Certification Authority (B1)
        Validity
            Not Before: May 22 16:56:40 2005 GMT
            Not After : Jan  1 00:00:00 2020 GMT
        Subject: C=US, O=Netflix, Inc., OU=(c) 2005 Netflix, Inc. - For authorized use only, OU=Electronic Delivery Service, CN=Primary Certification Authority (B1)
        Subject Public Key Info:
            Public Key Algorithm: rsaEncryption
            RSA Public Key: (2047 bit)
                Modulus (2047 bit):
                    72:87:13:44:c0:7f:40:4e:77:81:bf:25:43:11:4c:
                    ab:4a:31:98:0d:83:3b:e4:e0:fd:5e:68:6d:c5:0d:
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                    9c:56:25:c1:10:b7:c2:86:4b:8a:ee:62:9f:78:fe:
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                    d1:fb:0a:86:62:29:3c:09:15:8c:f4:2c:7a:aa:d9:
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                    15:50:77:46:a3:fd:3f:2c:4e:16:3c:e1:c2:df:03:
                    ad:09:b8:7b:41:69:c9:f0:39:f8:9c:cb:d4:03:f4:
                    d2:51:6c:22:b9:04:8e:ad:ad:fa:98:a2:ee:91:48:
                    2f:a7:1f:94:66:35:df:bd:a4:e4:de:a5:67:59:06:
                    01
                Exponent: 65537 (0x10001)
        X509v3 extensions:
            X509v3 Key Usage: critical
                Digital Signature, Certificate Sign, CRL Sign
            X509v3 Basic Constraints: critical
                CA:TRUE, pathlen:2
            X509v3 Subject Key Identifier:
                59:AF:5B:71:16:8E:82:F0:1B:C4:AA:6D:E9:14:C8:CF:9E:BF:FC:B2
    Signature Algorithm: sha1WithRSAEncryption
        71:49:a0:e4:9e:26:d0:d8:00:4b:a1:b9:5c:37:7e:99:5a:70:
        cb:db:ab:b7:c7:80:6c:8b:75:c1:84:77:3c:47:29:f9:e0:f0:
        d6:4e:61:16:34:1b:4f:75:c6:5e:64:02:01:65:4d:a0:21:8f:
        7f:8b:fd:dc:53:85:ca:36:cb:7c:a2:64:6c:43:89:46:3c:d8:
        f2:87:f3:c9:d9:14:c7:a9:f9:c7:c2:9d:5e:f6:ae:10:66:ba:
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        b7:68:dc:03:91:08:4b:10:01:fc:a7:34:e7:e3:d2:9d:a8:20:
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-----BEGIN CERTIFICATE-----
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kNRwnUziJ1dsV6y8Y14=
-----END CERTIFICATE-----
And so on... There are several certificates with Netflix's name on them. That tells me that the capability may be there. But I can't find any other reference to it. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
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post #30 of 37
5/23/10 at 9:04pm
I just moved to India, so to play local disks (if they are region coded at all ) I am looking for a code. I was emailing with a Vizio support person about switching the region, referring to the eBay offers, and he said it wasn't possible because they sell these products only in region 1 markets to begin with. So, "hard coded". On the other hand, they are 110-220V (and I have both this one and a 55 inch Vizio flat screen plugged into 220V right now). I also emailed the eBay seller.... no reply. Any help would be appreciated!

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Originally Posted by 8traxrule View Post

I just got one of these free from Vizio for participating in their 'VIP' program, where I got one of their TVs a few months early and evaluated it (though if they'll actually use my suggestions remains to be seen.) I don't think I'm going to bother keeping it hooked up- biggest flaw is it doesn't output multichannel PCM- any Blu-Ray discs that have uncompressed PCM soundtracks get downmixed to 2-channel. Updated the firmware and it still does it. FAIL.

Seemed decent for regular DVD playback, but big flaw there is discs that use the multi-angle function get a camera graphic displayed on the screen, and there's no way to get rid of it. I've heard horror stories about players doing this ever since DVD came out, but I'd managed never to see one for myself until now. The remote doesn't even have an Angle button on it; you have to bring up a sub-menu to change camera angles- admittedly there aren't a whole lot of discs that use this feature, but it still fails because of that.

It will play PAL format DVDs, but only converted to NTSC, so the frame rate on material shot on video is wrong (looks more like film than video- I have another player that outputs a PAL signal which my receiver can pass on to the TV and display properly). I haven't found a region hack for it, though someone on Ebay is selling a bunch of these players claiming they are region-free so there's some way to do it out there.

I'll keep this thing stored since you can never have too many DVD players and I don't think I could sell it for too much, and there may be fixes later for the problems it has, but if I'd bought this it would be going back to the store!
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