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post #31 of 77
Thanks VirTERM for taking the time to figure this out
and posting it here for all of us
post #32 of 77
Thread Starter 
I am glad that you guys find this post useful.
I am working on more sophisticated version, using ZigBee for wireless communication and a small decoder to take care of the IR codes. Basically, you will have a little dongle like part to plug into rs232 on your PJ and a small decoder box within 30m radius.
Since I do not have much free time those days, it will probably take some time before the design is ready, but I will make sure to keep you posted here.

Wojtek
post #33 of 77
One more question on this setup. Should the RS232 cable from the IR232 to the Panasonic be a straight cable or a null modem cable?

Thanks
Zhe Zhang
post #34 of 77
Thread Starter 
Null modem.. as I recall
WOjtek
post #35 of 77
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Originally Posted by zhe zhang View Post

One more question on this setup. Should the RS232 cable from the IR232 to the Panasonic be a straight cable or a null modem cable?

Thanks
Zhe Zhang

Null modem! Look at my post #21 in this thread. Now I only had a straight-through cable available so I purchased a Null Modem adapter from Monoprice.com to convert that straight-through cable to a null modem cable using the null modem adapter. (Null modem cables seem hard to find these days as most people not longer connect two PC's together to transfer data through the serial post!)
post #36 of 77
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Null modem! Look at my post #21 in this thread. Now I only had a straight-through cable available so I purchased a Null Modem adapter from Monoprice.com to convert that straight-through cable to a null modem cable using the null modem adapter. (Null modem cables seem hard to find these days as most people not longer connect two PC's together to transfer data through the serial post!)

Thanks, I missed that post.
post #37 of 77
This is a great thread! I have been looking for RS232 strings for discrete access to lens memories for my AE4000 Thanks VirTERM!

By the way have you found the RS232 strings for Frame Creation discrete access? I have been looking for them but can't seem to find any! I have the Function button set to toggle trough the options but I would really like to do this with discrete codes.
post #38 of 77
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This is a great thread! I have been looking for RS232 strings for discrete access to lens memories for my AE4000 Thanks VirTERM!

By the way have you found the RS232 strings for Frame Creation discrete access? I have been looking for them but can't seem to find any! I have the Function button set to toggle trough the options but I would really like to do this with discrete codes.

Unfortunatelly, there is no rs232 access code to control Frame Creation. You would need to use a sequence of commands or load different Picture Memory setups (still no direct access).

Wojtek
post #39 of 77
Bummer!

So the Picture Memory does save the Frame Creation Mode? I should have checked! I didn’t think of that. I will give that a try. My main goal is to have the PJ settings for each device in a system macros, this way when you select Xbox, Frame Creation would be off since it adds delay in the video image. I do a lot of RTI programming so this is very helpful info.

I had all the other strings but not those! You say you found those in the second manual on the CD is it in PDF? and could you send it to me? Unfortunately I can’t find the CD that came with the unit and I can’t seem to find it on the Panasonic web site.
post #40 of 77
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Bummer!


I had all the other strings but not those! You say you found those in the second manual on the CD is it in PDF? and could you send it to me? Unfortunately I can't find the CD that came with the unit and I can't seem to find it on the Panasonic web site.


Look at the first post in the AE-4000 thread. It has a link to all of the manuals for the Panny.
post #41 of 77
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(Null modem cables seem hard to find these days as most people not longer connect two PC's together to transfer data through the serial post!)

I just bought a couple DB-9 male connectors from Parts Express and made my own null modem cable using cat5.
post #42 of 77
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Look at the first post in the AE-4000 thread. It has a link to all of the manuals for the Panny.

Thanks for that tip it helped me locate some missing strings for my database
post #43 of 77
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I just bought a couple DB-9 male connectors from Parts Express and made my own null modem cable using cat5.

this is exactly what I did as well . I am actually sharing a single cat5 between rs232 and 2 triggers for curtain control.
Wojtek
post #44 of 77
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this is exactly what I did as well .
Wojtek

I lifted the idea from you.
post #45 of 77
Now that you have been using this system for some time is their anything that you don't like or would have done differently? I am about to jump on this as I want better control of my 4000 also.
post #46 of 77
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Now that you have been using this system for some time is their anything that you don't like or would have done differently? I am about to jump on this as I want better control of my 4000 also.

I really like using RS232 to control my AE4000 with a Harmony 670 remote. I have been using it for about seven months and it has been extremely reliable and without problems. The direct selection of inputs is really nice. Since I use all three HDMI inputs, using IR seemed to take forever to go from the last HDMI input back around to the first one and (I felt that) you had to make sure that you continued to point the remote toward the screen.

The only real difficultly is getting the Harmony programmed with the Sony IR codes that IR232 requires. I don't know if Industrologic has followed through on getting their device added to the Harmony database or not. If they did, getting this IR232 set up would be a much simpler mater. You can read my comments on teaching the Harmony in my post (#19 on the first page of this thread).
post #47 of 77
Has any one found a RF to RS-232 converter? Thought it might be better for placement options.
post #48 of 77
Since the IR converter is 2 way. Is their a way for it to send an IR signal to my masking control based on what lense memory is loaded? I know I can program my Harmony to send it but if I use auto switching it would be nice to have the IR converter send a signal to the masking.
post #49 of 77
Just wanted to say thank you for this thread. Got the parts and got it working no problem. This is a great upgrade to the projector and make contol of it much cleaner and impressive. It just can't believe that Panny doesn't have dedicated IR codes for all this stuff right out of the box, this is the way it should work....
post #50 of 77
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Originally Posted by Mopar_Mudder View Post

Just wanted to say thank you for this thread. Got the parts and got it working no problem. This is a great upgrade to the projector and make contol of it much cleaner and impressive. It just can't believe that Panny doesn't have dedicated IR codes for all this stuff right out of the box, this is the way it should work....

I am glad that you got it going
Yes, it works for me like a charm as well.
Wojtek
post #51 of 77
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Originally Posted by frank1940 View Post

I really like using RS232 to control my AE4000 with a Harmony 670 remote. I have been using it for about seven months and it has been extremely reliable and without problems. The direct selection of inputs is really nice. Since I use all three HDMI inputs, using IR seemed to take forever to go from the last HDMI input back around to the first one and (I felt that) you had to make sure that you continued to point the remote toward the screen.

The only real difficultly is getting the Harmony programmed with the Sony IR codes that IR232 requires. I don't know if Industrologic has followed through on getting their device added to the Harmony database or not. If they did, getting this IR232 set up would be a much simpler mater. You can read my comments on teaching the Harmony in my post (#19 on the first page of this thread).

Please read my original post (#1), you can just use ANY Sony remote to program your Harmony
Wojtek
post #52 of 77
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Originally Posted by Mopar_Mudder View Post

Since the IR converter is 2 way. Is their a way for it to send an IR signal to my masking control based on what lense memory is loaded? I know I can program my Harmony to send it but if I use auto switching it would be nice to have the IR converter send a signal to the masking.

I would suggest to use generic IR transmitter connected to trigger outputs on your Panny
I am actually doing it over RF instead of IR...
Thanks,
Wojtek
post #53 of 77
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Originally Posted by VirTERM View Post

I would suggest to use generic IR transmitter connected to trigger outputs on your Panny
I am actually doing it over RF instead of IR...
Thanks,
Wojtek

Found out that my IR remote for the masking doesn't use Sony Code so it wasn't going to be possible anyway. Could do it off the triggers but that only allows 2 screen size option. I just ended up programing it into my Harmony, one button send the code to the masking then it calls up the memory postion on the Panny. Works fine, just have to keep the remote pointed while it is sending codes. The masking actually require 3 codes to be sent, I have to get into the Harmony again to see if I can speed up how fast it sends the codes, little delay between each one right now.

Now the cats ass would be if I can get the HTPC to trigger the masking and Panny to the correct aspect ratio based on the aspect ratio from the movie .xml file when you hit play in Media Browser.....
post #54 of 77
Hi VirTERM,

just wanted to thank you for the description. I've been using the IR232 for about 6 months now and it works very reliably every time. I had some problems bying the IR232 as I live in Germany and Industrologic has some restrictions for oversees shipments. I'm using it with a Harmony ONE remote.

Best Regards,
Erdinger34
post #55 of 77
Hi guys, I spent hours trying to find out what could be wrong with my setup
I have an iTach rs232 and I was not able to send a single command to my Panny. Looking at your thread I built a null modem cable and that was the problem.
take a look at the official doc here:
ftp.panasonic.com/pub/Panasonic/Drivers/PBTS/brochures/PT-AE4000U_specifications.pdf
(put ftp upfront not http)

it's clear it does not describe a null modem cable, pin 2 goes to 2 and 3 to 3, they are not crossed.

your IR232 might already have an internal crossing I don't know but if you plug your Panny to a computer an iTach or a Global Caché it won't work with a null modem cable for sure...
post #56 of 77
Hey VirTerm, don't know if you are still checking this but I wanted to pick your brain a bit about this projector and the 2.35/16:9 auto detection mode. With my unit I find that while it will detect 2.35 content fairly reliably, it doesn't switch back to 16:9 when the picture changes (i.e. when a blue ray goes back to the menu). Any ideas on a work around or some configuration option that I am missing?
post #57 of 77
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Originally Posted by CassidyCaid View Post

Hey VirTerm, don't know if you are still checking this but I wanted to pick your brain a bit about this projector and the 2.35/16:9 auto detection mode. With my unit I find that while it will detect 2.35 content fairly reliably, it doesn't switch back to 16:9 when the picture changes (i.e. when a blue ray goes back to the menu). Any ideas on a work around or some configuration option that I am missing?

Personally I don't use the auto detect at all. I use the RS232 and have a discrete code for each saved lense memory. Then I have a button for each aspect ration on my Harmony, one button push changes the lense memory with out going into menus.
post #58 of 77
Yeah I am leaning towards that, but this is an installed unit at a client's house and I would rather not force her to have to push a button to select 2.35 mode and 16:9 mode.

I know in a previous post someone was talking about the projector switching during commercials and such but I can't figure out how to get the projector to recognise 16:9 mode. It switches to 2.35 okay but then seems to stay there until I tell it to go back to 16:9
post #59 of 77
I wouldn't think this would effect it but just as a though if your saved 2.35 memory has the top and bottom elec masking in use is it possible that it would then ignore the top and bottom of the image to see if the black bars went away? Again I would think that it is looking at the image as it comes in but you never know. I have never tried the auto switching because I have to activate my masking system anyway and one button on the remote does both.
post #60 of 77
Sorry for bringing back an older thread, but this is awesome. I plan to get this for my 7000U. Since serial ports on PCs is now pretty old school, will this work with a USB to serial port adapter? Also, the IR232 only needs to be plugged into the PC during programming right? Then, it's plugged into the projector after that?
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