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Difference between Onkyo Pro PR-SC5507P and Integra DHC-80.1

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I have read through the posts for each model and thought it would be nice to have a thread that points out the differences.

Please feel free to add anything differences you know of.



Thanks
Paul
post #2 of 35
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I called Onkyo and they told me that the units were the same except for the door and rack ears that are included with the OPro
post #3 of 35
Looks like this was a short thread.
post #4 of 35
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Originally Posted by pbo View Post

I have read through the posts for each model and thought it would be nice to have a thread that points out the differences.

Please feel free to add anything differences you know of.



Thanks
Paul

Cosmetics, the 5507 has Pure audio mode and the 80.1 has a 3 year warranty with the 5507 having a two year warranty. Thats all the differences I'm aware off.

Bill
post #5 of 35
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

Cosmetics, the 5507 has Pure audio mode and the 80.1 has a 3 year warranty with the 5507 having a two year warranty. Thats all the differences I'm aware off.

Bill

We own the ONKYO PR-SC5507p and love it. Solid piece of equipment and it sounds great coupled with our outstanding Parasound Halo A51 and A23 power amps. I especially like the front flip down panel on the 5507p that hides some buttons, etc that are rarely used.
post #6 of 35
I believe the case dimensions and weight are slightly different as well:
80.1 -
435 × 198.5 × 445 mm
13.5 kg
5507 -
435 x 198.5 x 453.5 mm
14.0 kg
post #7 of 35
Hi guys,

Another difference 'might' be Audyssey MultiEQ XT Pro. I just emailed Chris K from Audyssey about this yesterday - his reply was "Onkyo has not informed us that the 5507 will be installer ready. As of today there is no Pro software available for it from Audyssey. Please contact Onkyo directly to ask them about their plans."

Now I would contact Onkyo but I reckon everyone is sort of shut over Xmas

I have read on another forum that Onkyo will probably enable the MultiEQ XT pro via a firmware update in the future, but I'm not sure on the official Onkyo line regarding this. I have a DHC 9.9 right now and I am thinking of making the upgrade but I can only seem to get the 5507 easily for a good price and not the 80.1. I'd really like the Audyssey Pro enabled though as I've got the installer kit and have found it does make quite a big difference.

Merry Christmas!
post #8 of 35
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Originally Posted by konoyaro View Post

I believe the case dimensions and weight are slightly different as well:
80.1 -
435 × 198.5 × 445 mm
13.5 kg
5507 -
435 x 198.5 x 453.5 mm
14.0 kg

The 5507 is heavier, so it must be better!
post #9 of 35
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Another difference 'might' be Audyssey MultiEQ XT Pro. I just emailed Chris K from Audyssey about this yesterday - his reply was "Onkyo has not informed us that the 5507 will be installer ready. As of today there is no Pro software available for it from Audyssey. Please contact Onkyo directly to ask them about their plans.

Onkyo indicates on their own website that the 5507 is Audyssey "MultEQ Pro Ready".

I spoke with the famous "Axxx" who most people seem to be buying their 80.1s from on AVSForum's 80.1 thread and he indicated to me that he sells both the 80.1 and the 5507 and verifies that the two pre-pros are equivalent with the exception of the minor differences already mentioned on this thread. In addition, the 80.1 comes with Integra's 6-month exchange feature (if problems occur within the first 6-months, the dealer will swap it out for a new one). This feature is not available for the 5507 and should the unit have problems, you will have to go through standard warranty procedures for repair rather than replacement.

As for the reliability of these units, "Axxx" went on to indicate that both the 5507 and 80.1 have been reliable so far (Axxx owns an AV store in Texas and has also been an authorized Onkyo service center for 20 yrs). With Onkyo/Integra's previous pre-pros (as recently as the Integra 9.9), he would sometimes see these units come back for repair because of damage to the internal cards or power supply from shipping/mishandling but that with both the 80.1 and 5507, Onkyo has placed foam insulators to separate the cards and power supply from other components and so far he has not seen any of the problems that have plagued the previous units.

As for the minor difference in weight between these 2 units, this is due to the metal door on the faceplate of the 5507 that's used to cover some of the lesser used connections and the removable rackmounts. The 5507 is also a bit deeper by 8.5mm because of this protruding metal faceplate. Interestingly, because the 5507 has more metal (faceplate and removable rackmounts), the 5507 lists for $50 more than the 80.1 although street prices for the 5507 are generally less than the 80.1.

When I asked "Axxx" why Onkyo would make 2 identical pre-pros, he stated that their Integra line is geared for the high-end consumer market while the Onkyo Pro line is targeted for professional musicians/studios although why musicians/studios would need a 9.2 channel AV pre-pro was beyond his understanding.
post #10 of 35
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Originally Posted by Gior View Post

Hi guys,

Another difference 'might' be Audyssey MultiEQ XT Pro. I just emailed Chris K from Audyssey about this yesterday - his reply was "Onkyo has not informed us that the 5507 will be installer ready. As of today there is no Pro software available for it from Audyssey. Please contact Onkyo directly to ask them about their plans."

Now I would contact Onkyo but I reckon everyone is sort of shut over Xmas

I have read on another forum that Onkyo will probably enable the MultiEQ XT pro via a firmware update in the future, but I'm not sure on the official Onkyo line regarding this. I have a DHC 9.9 right now and I am thinking of making the upgrade but I can only seem to get the 5507 easily for a good price and not the 80.1. I'd really like the Audyssey Pro enabled though as I've got the installer kit and have found it does make quite a big difference.

Merry Christmas!

the 80.1's are b/ordered til the first week of Feb '10 !!
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Warranty
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Originally Posted by kitchen_space View Post

The 5507 is heavier, so it must be better!

That's just the weight of the Pure Audio button.
post #13 of 35
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I have a PR-SC5507P incoming on Wednesday along with a Pro installer kit. I sure hope it works......I went on the word of the OPro tech support and website. Does anyone have this unit that can confirm?
post #14 of 35
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Originally Posted by pbo View Post

I have a PR-SC5507P incoming on Wednesday along with a Pro installer kit. I sure hope it works......I went on the word of the OPro tech support and website. Does anyone have this unit that can confirm?

Hi Paul,

Well, I'm pretty convinced that the 5507 and the 80.1 are almost the same unit bar some functions like the Pure Direct mode on the 5507. HOWEVER, contrary to what has been mentioned regarding them being functionally identical, CURRENTLY, when I log into the Audyssey Installer's site and try to purchase a license to do a Pro calibration for the 5507, I can't . This is why I've been hoping for a firmware update from Onkyo as well as for them to NOTIFY Audyssey that they have done this (Audyssey is who you have the buy the licenses off after all) before I go out and buy a 5507 myself. This time round, I think the Onkyo seems like the niftier unit with the nice folding front panel and the pure direct mode. Hopefully they include the rackmount ears on the Oceanic versions too...

So, if I were you, when you get the unit and try buying a license, give Onkyo Pro tech support an earful - OR maybe those guys are in the Christmas spirit still and giving out FREE preenabled Pro Installation licenses? If so, let us know I'll buy the 5507 in a heartbeat lol
post #15 of 35
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I'm on hold with Onkyo right now, but I was surfing and there is new information I found on the web. At Onkyo's website they have changed the specs to remove the "Installer Ready" reference. Also the unit is now listed on Audyssey's website and they indicate that the unit is not Installer Ready.

I have also left a message for the distributor. I'm hoping they will take it back even though I'll have to eat return shipping.

At this point I'm so mad I can't even think straight.
post #16 of 35
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I spoke with tech support at Audyssey and Bob in tech support at Onkyo.

Bob at Onkyo seemed very knowledgeable and told me right away that it would not work and they had no intention of enabling it. He told me that he was sorry the website was incorrect and that it took them a while to fix it. I told him it was a shame that I called in and was given incorrect info last week.

The tech at Audyssey was also right on top of this and said that Onkyo had made a decision not to include the Installer Ready feature even though the website clearly indicated they would. He said it would only be available in the Integra unit even though they are basically the same and that the only way they could sell the key was for Onkyo to enable it and to allow them to sell the key.

The distributor talked to the Onkyo rep and he said it sould work and that he would check on it Monday. So it will be interesting to see what the rep has to say.

I feel certain that the resolution will be to return the unit and I sure do hate to have to eat return shipping.
post #17 of 35
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Originally Posted by pbo View Post

I feel certain that the resolution will be to return the unit and I sure do hate to have to eat return shipping.

Paul,

I feel you should not have to pay for return shipping on the 5507 as Onkyo was incorrect on their site saying the 5507 was Audyssey Pro capable. I see no reason why the company should not take care of return shipping. Basically Onkyo was misleading anyone who wanted Audyssey Pro capability and Onkyo should eat the return shipping not you.

I really do not understand why Onkyo is taking this position with the 5507 regarding Audyssey Pro capability. I would be very angry if I had bought the 5507 and then have Onkyo change their minds. I have no interest in using Audyssey Pro with my 886 but it can be done by someone if I sell it. But with the 5507 you do not have that option lessening the value of the 5507 IMO.

Bill
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

Paul,

I feel you should not have to pay for return shipping on the 5507 as Onkyo was incorrect on their site saying the 5507 was Audyssey Pro capable. I see no reason why the company should not take care of return shipping. Basically Onkyo was misleading anyone who wanted Audyssey Pro capability and Onkyo should eat the return shipping not you.

Bill

I'm with you and it might happen. I'm playing along right now because the disty believes the Onkyo rep is correct and it will work. I've asked if I can maybe get a one off authorization to but 2 Integra's since I don't have access to those and this boo boo has been such a pain. I had 3 of these sold and now lost one because the customer got fed up with the BS and doesn't want an Integra that might be considered "gray" market if I can get it. I could probably sell the OPro online for a profit but then I've violated my dealer agreement so that's out. I deserve something because I qouted the jobs with Pro calibrations and bought the kit to do so. If the rep can work it out where I can buy Integra's for the same price with rack mounts (Which they should since the OPro's list is $50 more and the ears retail for about that much) then no harm, no foul.
post #19 of 35
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Warranty

4 year warranty from shoponkyo for another $85 takes care of this problem for the Onkyo owning underlings like me
post #20 of 35
Were you able to get the Pro Installer kit to work?
post #21 of 35
Were you able to get the Pro Installer to work with the 5507?


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Originally Posted by pbo View Post

I have a PR-SC5507P incoming on Wednesday along with a Pro installer kit. I sure hope it works......I went on the word of the OPro tech support and website. Does anyone have this unit that can confirm?
post #22 of 35
buying the 5507? Online, in stores?
post #23 of 35
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Originally Posted by SLCNewbie View Post

Were you able to get the Pro Installer to work with the 5507?

I didn't try. It's not gonna work until and a big IF Onkyo modifies the firmware and notifies Audyssey.

I am returning the Audyssey Pro kit because I'm not holding my breath. I do know this, I need a couple of receivers for customers that would have received Onkyo that will now get a different brand. I will not support manufacturers that lie and treat resellers and customers this way.
post #24 of 35
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Originally Posted by pbo View Post

I didn't try. It's not gonna work until and a big IF Onkyo modifies the firmware and notifies Audyssey.

I am returning the Audyssey Pro kit because I'm not holding my breath. I do know this, I need a couple of receivers for customers that would have received Onkyo that will now get a different brand. I will not support manufacturers that lie and treat resellers and customers this way.

ya know...until someone tries this 'saying' it is a dhc80.1 with APro...who knows-it may work FINE.
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Originally Posted by alanl715 View Post

ya know...until someone tries this 'saying' it is a dhc80.1 with APro...who knows-it may work FINE.

And how does one buy/download an AudysseyPro key for an Integra by using an Onkyo's MAC address? And how can you then "say" it is for the Onkyo when the first setup menu in AP asks you to select a device with Integra and Onkyo listed separately?
post #26 of 35
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

And how does one buy/download an AudysseyPro key for an Integra by using an Onkyo's MAC address? And how can you then "say" it is for the Onkyo when the first setup menu in AP asks you to select a device with Integra and Onkyo listed separately?

Wel Audyssey Pro STILL isn't enabled on the Onkyo according to the Audyssey site and it's now a couple months later.

Also, no reports of anyone successfully getting Audyssey Pro operational on the Onkyo via any 'hacks' either. Looks like Onkyo is skipping Pro on this generation of receivers and pre's.

Also, no DHC-80.1's in 230v have landed in Australia yet either Still waiting...
post #27 of 35
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Originally Posted by Gior View Post

Wel Audyssey Pro STILL isn't enabled on the Onkyo according to the Audyssey site and it's now a couple months later.

Also, no reports of anyone successfully getting Audyssey Pro operational on the Onkyo via any 'hacks' either. Looks like Onkyo is skipping Pro on this generation of receivers and pre's.

No surprise. When the Onkyo guys showed me the 5507 at CES, I asked about AudysseyPro. They said it will not be available on the 5507 as "AudysseyPro is an Integra thing." So, don't hold your breath.

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Also, no DHC-80.1's in 230v have landed in Australia yet either Still waiting...

Tough.
post #28 of 35
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

No surprise. When the Onkyo guys showed me the 5507 at CES, I asked about AudysseyPro. They said it will not be available on the 5507 as "AudysseyPro is an Integra thing." So, don't hold your breath.

Tough.

Kal,

You know to make matters even worse down under...with ALL the Denon products in Australia, Audyssey Pro is not available at all as they all are not the CI designations.

After listening to the differences between XT and Pro on my old 9.9 (which got sold in preparation for the 80.1 leaving me without a main HT system) I'm not sure I can live without Audyssey Pro...

In your experience, is the gap between inbuilt Pro and the external Sound Equalizer as big as the difference between XT and Pro?
post #29 of 35
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Originally Posted by Gior View Post

In your experience, is the gap between inbuilt Pro and the external Sound Equalizer as big as the difference between XT and Pro?

Hard to give a hard answer since I made the comparison only in one system and in one room but, based on that comparison, I would say no. I do not use the Sound Equalizer in any setup that has MultEQ XT with AudysseyPro support.
post #30 of 35
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

Hard to give a hard answer since I made the comparison only in one system and in one room but, based on that comparison, I would say no. I do not use the Sound Equalizer in any setup that has MultEQ XT with AudysseyPro support.

Thanks for that That's exactly what my thoughts were on this too
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