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post #1441 of 3008
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Originally Posted by Larry M View Post

I've noticed a couple build threads recently where when constructing the riser, they use for instance 2x10 for the outside perimeter of the stage and 2x8 for the studs. Is this acting as a bass trap as well and where does the bass enter under this scenario?

If the riser is intended to act as a bass trap, I believe they are cutting openings in the top of the riser adjacent to a wall. The openings are often disguised with HVAC vent covers.
post #1442 of 3008
Thread Starter 
LarryM,

Regarding the bass trap risers. From what I've read, unless you know what you're doing it's best not to do anything. I believe there's a science behind it. Since you are still early on, you might work with AVS/Dennis to come up with a game plan for your theater.

Dwight,
I've got some gange boxes that need to go through the mdf, so I don't think the fabric will work in that corner. Perhaps I'll just fill it with some pink fluffy insulation. Can I leave the insulation in the bag if it works out to keep the fibers from floating around?
post #1443 of 3008
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I've been playing around with different ideas for the hinged patch panel door.

Here are a few concepts:

This is a maple frame with moulding and black gom fabric to match the front cabinets. I can also put some denim in the frame for acoustics.


Same thing as above but with red GOM fabric to match the upper wall fabric.


This would be a hinged door frame that would be completed covered with red GOM fabric. Designed to blend into the upper wall.
post #1444 of 3008
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Originally Posted by mcascio View Post

Can I leave the insulation in the bag if it works out to keep the fibers from floating around?

Isn't the insulation really compressed in the bags? I would think that you want it fluffy.
post #1445 of 3008
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Originally Posted by aaustin View Post

Isn't the insulation really compressed in the bags? I would think that you want it fluffy.

Good point!
post #1446 of 3008
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Originally Posted by mcascio View Post


Good point!

Yup. I suppose you could loosely fill garbage bags but I wouldn't leave it in the factory packaging.
post #1447 of 3008
I like the first option. Black GOM inside a black frame. Although, the last could be nice if the edge wasn't as visible as it is in the render. The first I think is the best option because it doesn't require perfection as much as the hidden panel. Although, since perfection seems to be your thing...
post #1448 of 3008
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Originally Posted by JTR7 View Post

I like the first option. Black GOM inside a black frame. Although, the last could be nice if the edge wasn't as visible as it is in the render. The first I think is the best option because it doesn't require perfection as much as the hidden panel. Although, since perfection seems to be your thing...

I like the first as well
post #1449 of 3008
Thread Starter 
Thanks Guys.

I'm leaning towards the black door and black GOM fabric as well.
post #1450 of 3008
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I ended up rebuilding part of the patch panel wall so I could make sure the door was perfectly centered. I didn't want the moulding on the lower 1/3 wall to be centered and not line up with the upper door. I also cut the mdf and placed the gang boxes below the patch panel. I had to just make sure the moulding wasn't going to go through the gang boxes per my plan. So they are a bit higher than normal.

I had cut holes in the plywood that the rack sits on so I could drape the cables through. But I'm thinking I might cover those back up in case I drop something down there and just neatly tie up the extra cables.

I've also made the opening a bit taller to fit the space better. The renderings made it look like the door was too short for the space. But it also allows me to remove the patch panel if I ever needed to. The old design pretty much locked it in there.

post #1451 of 3008
Gorgeous work on the stage. I love the trim and hinges! Looks awesome before it's even finished!
post #1452 of 3008
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Originally Posted by damelon View Post

Gorgeous work on the stage. I love the trim and hinges! Looks awesome before it's even finished!

Thanks. Your thread was certainly a source for inspiration and motivation!!!

I need motivation with all this unseasonably warm weather.
post #1453 of 3008
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I ordered all 136' of chair rail. My original plan called for a 3" chair rail...but the lumber yard discontinued it. So I found the same thing special order through Lowe's albeit more expensive than the lumber yard.
post #1454 of 3008
Looking great...fwiw, the hinged door looks cleaner to me and keeps the eyes on the room molding work.
post #1455 of 3008
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Originally Posted by mcascio View Post

I ordered all 136' of chair rail. My original plan called for a 3" chair rail...but the lumber yard discontinued it. So I found the same thing special order through Lowe's albeit more expensive than the lumber yard.

Ouch...I once bought a piece of trim from HD because I was in a pinch and iirc it was about 5x what it normally would cost me. Luckily I have an incredible lumber yard near me that has tons of profiles and if they don't I have another lumber yard near in the opposit direction
post #1456 of 3008
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Still picking away at this patch panel area.

I think I have a final game plan for the black hinged door. It's a bit larger than originallly intended but I think it looks good and will prove functional.


I added another shelf under the patch panel to close the holes I originally cut to allow the cables to drape down to the ground and out of the way. I think by time I terminate all the cables, there will only be a handle left unused so it won't be as messy. I put some black roofing felt on top of the shelf just so I didn't have to look at the bare plywood. I also put roofing felt on the cement before placing the insulation below the panel. I mounted an outlet right to the patch panel after spraying it black.

I need to install the remote temperature sensor in the MDF lower wall...probably just below the chair rail. It's small and paintable, but it's designed to be screwed into soft drywall. So I'll need to get a little creative.



I also picked up the paint and primer yesterday. So I'm hoping to get some samples primed and painted over the weekend.
post #1457 of 3008
Mario, the build is looking great!

Have you (or anyone else) landed on a HT carpet that you are going to use?
post #1458 of 3008
Wow. Just, wow. Love the design and color choices. May steal some ideas.
post #1459 of 3008
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Originally Posted by jharri01 View Post

Mario, the build is looking great!

Have you (or anyone else) landed on a HT carpet that you are going to use?

I really like the Masland carpet in my renderings but the quote I got was pretty crazy ($3100 for carpet and pad installed). Is it me or does this price seem pretty high? I may look at some other options just to see the price difference.
post #1460 of 3008
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Originally Posted by WVU Mountaineers View Post

Wow. Just, wow. Love the design and color choices. May steal some ideas.

Thanks WVU Mountaineers.

Steal away.
post #1461 of 3008
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Originally Posted by mcascio View Post

I really like the Masland carpet in my renderings but the quote I got was pretty crazy ($3100 for carpet and pad installed). Is it me or does this price seem pretty high? I may look at some other options just to see the price difference.

I have seen this carpet running $20-$35 per yard. I paid $25 per yard and was one of the least expensive carpets I saw with a theater look to it. In my simple 13x23ish room it was $1850 installed. The stage and riser really muck with the install price but after going down the road with three previous carpet companies it was the best I could find and REALLY happy with the way this carpet has worn. Looks the same today as three years ago. I also liked the Couristan carpets as well. Good luck!
post #1462 of 3008
I saw this the other day and thought it looked good...but I am a long way away from purchasing carpet
Stanton Preston
post #1463 of 3008
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I started priming a sample MDF yesterday and am applying three different paints this morning so I can determine which route to go. I also made a corner out of MDF so I can do a test treatment on that. I sanded the edges smooth to 220 with my orbital sander then applied two coats of sanding sealer to the edges. Then sanded smooth again with a 320 sanding sponge block.

My question is how easy is it to remove the sanding sealer that I just applied with the 320 sanding block?

While waiting for the primer coats to dry, I tackled the 4 gang outlet in the room. It was already recessed about 3/4" in to the wall before I add another 3/4" from the fabric panel. I hate seeing crooked switches in the wall - especially when you have 4 gangs...so I used a dremel to cut a 4 gang box in half then built a frame to fit it into and attach to the wall. This will also allow me to attach the GOM fabric around.





post #1464 of 3008
Which paint did you end up sampling?
post #1465 of 3008
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Originally Posted by Larry M View Post

I saw this the other day and thought it looked good...but I am a long way away from purchasing carpet
Stanton Preston

Larry,
I thought it looked pretty good as a thumbnail until I rendered it. It looks like it has a lot more gold than black.

post #1466 of 3008
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Originally Posted by Larry M View Post

Which paint did you end up sampling?

I have the following:
* Benjamin Moore Ultra Base N215 Acrylic Flat Black [CEILING]
* Benjamin Moore Regal N221 Acrylic Matte Finish Black [Possibly MDF, Moulding & Maple Cabinets]
* Benjamin Moore Floor & Patio Latex Floor & Patio Enamel tinted black [OAK Stage, Bullnose, Steps]

For Primers:
* Benjamin Moore Fresh Start Alkyd All Purpose Primer 024 [OAK Stage, Bullnose, Steps]
* Zinsser BIN Primer [All MDF Surfaces and Possibly Pine Moulding, Maple Cabinets]
post #1467 of 3008
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Originally Posted by mcascio View Post

I really like the Masland carpet in my renderings but the quote I got was pretty crazy ($3100 for carpet and pad installed). Is it me or does this price seem pretty high? I may look at some other options just to see the price difference.

Maybe..........maybe not........

I spec-ed Couristan La Scalia ........$72/yd! And that was with contractor pricing.......
http://www.couristan.com/Showroom/BL...3-9da9b1ffb202

I did settle on product below.............similar to Stanton product mentioned prior. Absolutely love your renderings.........helped with my designer decision!
LL
post #1468 of 3008
It took me some time but I just finished reading your entire thread. Wow awesome job on your build! You have saved me a ton of time on my upcoming project. I am trying to match the look of my study for my HT room. The look will be very close to yours.

By the way does everyone think my wood grain will be dark enough for a theater room?

Thanks again Mario! I look forward to seeing the drive to completion.
LL
post #1469 of 3008
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Originally Posted by avtexan View Post

It took me some time but I just finished reading your entire thread. Wow awesome job on your build! You have saved me a ton of time on my upcoming project. I am trying to match the look of my study for my HT room. The look will be very close to yours.

By the way does everyone think my wood grain will be dark enough for a theater room?

Thanks again Mario! I look forward to seeing the drive to completion.

Yes.
post #1470 of 3008
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Originally Posted by mcascio View Post

Larry,
I thought it looked pretty good as a thumbnail until I rendered it. It looks like it has a lot more gold than black.


Yeah that rendering looks too gold. In person it was very subtle
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