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post #2011 of 3008
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Originally Posted by brendanb21 View Post

Hi Mario, and all the followers.
Im Brendan from Australia, and currently waiting for my new house to be built. In the build I have customized the existing design to allow for a 4.5M x 7M room 10" Ceiling.
I have completely fallen in love with your design, and would like your permission to use certain aspects of your design in my home theatre.
Congrats on all the hard work so far, it looks amazing.
Regards

Hi brendanb21,

I'm honored for one that your first post after 3 years of being on the forum was in this thread.

Congratulations on your new house. I remember being in your shoes about 9 years ago. One thing you might do is determine your seats ahead of time and opt to dig down for the first row.

Feel free to incorporate into your own theater...just keep us posted along the way. smile.gif
post #2012 of 3008
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I'm looking to wrap up the theater foyer.

So before hanging the fabric on the drywall, I thought I'd mount my virutal movie poster.

It consists of a 40" LED TV mounted on it's side in the portrait position. I didn't want to damage the fabric by doing it later. I'll remove the mount when it comes time to put up the fabric and then just make small holes into the fabric for the bolts.

I'll eventually build a frame around it and maybe add some decorative moulding to match the columns.

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Using MainLobby, I plan to use the virutal movie poster to display a variety of things. Currently playing movie Poster and fan art, Movie in Progress graphic, how much time is left on the movie, movies coming soon based on release dates, last few movies played, total number of movies watched in this theater, lbs of popcorn served, etc. I may bring the posters to life and have them slowly panning in/out. It may be triggered on/off with motion or door sensors. Still haven't worked out all the details yet.
Edited by mcascio - 6/26/12 at 6:53am
post #2013 of 3008
That TV/Movie Poster is redonk. Would love to see shots of the various screens you described once you get it dialed in.
post #2014 of 3008
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smile.gif.....You can't tell, but that smiley is in BOLD.
post #2015 of 3008
I have to say, that's an idea and a half! smile.gif

Gary
post #2016 of 3008
Absolutlely love, love, love the way the fabric looks with the black columns and your light tray. That finalizes the decision on my columns/wall design. Difference will be the fabric will be Hawkeye gold! Thanks again for the inspirational build and pics!
post #2017 of 3008
Hi Mario,

Thanks a bunch. Unfortunately the slab for the new house is already poured and awaiting the frame work to start. so I am stuck with size i have now.
In saying that i get to work with a skeleton room, no plumbing or electrical in place that i need to be mindful of, open slather you could say. So I have about 4/6 months to decide on the right cableing, insulation, placement etc. Install that myself before they gyprock.

Thanks for the tip on the cinema lounges, i have a 4 seater atm, in my makeshift HT (will upload some pics to my profile), but I want to start new with the same layout as yours back row of 4 and front row of 3. I am guessing with a width of 4.5M i will have roughly half a meter each side of the 4 seater
in walkway space.

One area that will let me down is no experience in anything actually lol, but more importantly computer design software. I will be sketching everything by hand and hope my measurements work out.

What are you using to drive the poster images? a media player?

I just remembered another question,, what made you decide on going with a painted star ceiling than fibre optics? I have researched a fibreoptic setup locally, and can build one the size of yours for about $400/500? which seems quite reasonable?
Is there any benefit of going with paint and blacklight? love to hear your opinion.
Edited by brendanb21 - 6/26/12 at 3:44pm
post #2018 of 3008
Mario,

How much space have you allowed between rows of seats and then space between back row and the bar top?

Curious as to the recommended length of a room to fit two rows plus bar seating like yours. Was there certain recommendations to fit the two rows plus bar seating?


Sent from my iPad
post #2019 of 3008
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Originally Posted by vanice View Post

That TV/Movie Poster is redonk. Would love to see shots of the various screens you described once you get it dialed in.

Thanks. I will certainly post more details once I have a chance to work on that piece.
post #2020 of 3008
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Originally Posted by Spaceman View Post

smile.gif.....You can't tell, but that smiley is in BOLD.

Thanks but I can't take credit for this one. I've actually seen one of our Cinemar customers do this before. I think it was the guy that started Orbitz.
post #2021 of 3008
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Originally Posted by GWCR View Post

Absolutlely love, love, love the way the fabric looks with the black columns and your light tray. That finalizes the decision on my columns/wall design. Difference will be the fabric will be Hawkeye gold! Thanks again for the inspirational build and pics!

The nice thing about black is that it goes with a lot of other colors...so you pretty much can't go wrong. I think the Hawkeye gold will look fantastic too.
post #2022 of 3008
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Originally Posted by brendanb21 View Post

Hi Mario,
Thanks a bunch. Unfortunately the slab for the new house is already poured and awaiting the frame work to start. so I am stuck with size i have now.
In saying that i get to work with a skeleton room, no plumbing or electrical in place that i need to be mindful of, open slather you could say. So I have about 4/6 months to decide on the right cableing, insulation, placement etc. Install that myself before they gyprock.
Thanks for the tip on the cinema lounges, i have a 4 seater atm, in my makeshift HT (will upload some pics to my profile), but I want to start new with the same layout as yours back row of 4 and front row of 3. I am guessing with a width of 4.5M i will have roughly half a meter each side of the 4 seater
in walkway space.
One area that will let me down is no experience in anything actually lol, but more importantly computer design software. I will be sketching everything by hand and hope my measurements work out.
What are you using to drive the poster images? a media player?
I just remembered another question,, what made you decide on going with a painted star ceiling than fibre optics? I have researched a fibreoptic setup locally, and can build one the size of yours for about $400/500? which seems quite reasonable?
Is there any benefit of going with paint and blacklight? love to hear your opinion.

It's a long journey but most of us make it to the end. wink.gif

I'll be using my company software, Cinemar MainLobby \ DVDLobby to push the movie poster images to the Movie Poster screen.

The automation and media management system is smart enough to know where and what movie is being played around the house including the theater. So it all ties in with the rest of the house.
It should be something that could easily be replicatable for other if they are interested in integrating it into their own theaters. Cost wise...going the LED TV route as opposed to a store bought back lit wasn't that much more and I don't have to worry about ever changing out or buying posters!

Regarding the star ceiling...while I love the fibre optics, I really didn't want to tackle doing all the labor nor spend the large amount of money on a prefab one. The painted star ceiling can be done anytime and at a lower cost. Plus you'll get a lot more stars. A combination of the two would have been really cool! One thing that I didn't count on is that backlights do add some expense to the star ceiling. So keep that in mind. Especially when you need (8) 4 footers.

I think I'll be adding movement to the ceiling using LED's but I still need more experimentation in order to prove the theory.
post #2023 of 3008
The best products in this hobby come from people who are involved personally, IMO. We ar eloving your detaile thread. I'll have to go look at Mainlobby when I get a chance.
post #2024 of 3008
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Originally Posted by tbraden32 View Post

Mario,
How much space have you allowed between rows of seats and then space between back row and the bar top?
Curious as to the recommended length of a room to fit two rows plus bar seating like yours. Was there certain recommendations to fit the two rows plus bar seating?
Sent from my iPad

Hi tbraden32,

I initially planned for 2'8" between the front and back rows. I believe this was going to be a little tight for someone taller than me. But since I'll most likely be scrapping the back bar counter, it gives me some more room to push the back row further away from the front. It won't be long before I bring a few chairs in for testing.

I'm still waiting for my DBox actuator to come back before I move them in.
post #2025 of 3008
Hi Mario, I was curious about the LED display you are using. Is this a commercial display like NEC/Panny etc that can allow for portrait or something standard?

Vince
post #2026 of 3008
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Hi Mario, I was curious about the LED display you are using. Is this a commercial display like NEC/Panny etc that can allow for portrait or something standard?
Vince

Hi Vince,

No. It's a Walmart TCL LED. I'll be using MainLobby to rotate the images and text so they are in portrait mode. I had to track down a mount though that could mount the TV in this fashion.
post #2027 of 3008
Thanks for the info. How far back does the chairs you have recline? I guess another way to put it would be if against a wall, how far from the wall would the seat need to be in order not to hit it in full recline position?
post #2028 of 3008
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Originally Posted by tbraden32 View Post

Thanks for the info. How far back does the chairs you have recline? I guess another way to put it would be if against a wall, how far from the wall would the seat need to be in order not to hit it in full recline position?

I can't speak for other theater chairs besides the ones that I own which are Berkline. You'd need about 4" from the back of the seat top to the wall. When reclined, the top of the seat would then just about touch the wall. So add more space if you want a little more cushion. My head does not extend beyond the cushion so the 4" would work for me.
post #2029 of 3008
Mario,

I'm looking at some similar Berlines, exact info I was looking for...Thanks Again

Todd
post #2030 of 3008
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Mario,
I'm looking at some similar Berlines, exact info I was looking for...Thanks Again
Todd

You bet Todd. Are you still able to buy Berklines? I thought they went out of business.
post #2031 of 3008
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I put in a late night on the theater again working on the theater foyer.

I cut the fabric so I could staple it from the top of the ceiling down to the middle of the chair rail. You wouldn't think the staples would hold in the drywall but it does!

I then used 3/8" x 1/2" leg staples starting from the top left corner and stapling every inch or so. Once I was about two feet in across the top, I staple a few more on the left side to keep it from pulling in too much. I kept the fabric taught while stapling.
Once I staple all the way across the top to the other side, I stapled half way down the left side, then moved to the right side again pulling it taught while stapling to get any slack out of the fabric.

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I used my rotary cutting tool to trim off the excess in the corner. Works like a charm.
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Here's a shot of the door entry way with staples trimmed around the door.
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Another shot after trimming the door cutout:
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For the wall with the TV Mount and outlets, I stapled around the outlets. I had already made the holes for the TV mount so I found them again with my finger and applied hot glue larger than the size of the hole. So as I screw the bolt back into the hole it wouldn't twist and tear the nearby fabric:
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I finished three of the walls and then had to move to puttying the light tray.

You'll notice green painters tape on the ceiling. I marked all of the studs on the ceiling before hanging the fabric. This will come in handy when it comes time to hang the crown.
post #2032 of 3008
Are you putting some type of trim in the corners to cover up the staples?
post #2033 of 3008
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Originally Posted by tbraden32 View Post

Are you putting some type of trim in the corners to cover up the staples?

The door frame should easily cover that
post #2034 of 3008
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Originally Posted by tbraden32 View Post

Are you putting some type of trim in the corners to cover up the staples?

Yeah. I'll probably use some thinner 1/8" strips painted black in the corners which will match the rest of the theater for the most part.
post #2035 of 3008
Mario-

Its really coming together, looks fantastic. My own plan will pretty much be identical to the render below. I was wondering if you pulled some ideas from this room as well, I can see some similarities. If not then i suppose great minds think alike. Both rooms are top notch. Btw, I am buying the renders from the artist who who designed them, was just too costly to start from scratch. Best of luck finishing up.

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post #2036 of 3008
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Mario-
Its really coming together, looks fantastic. My own plan will pretty much be identical to the render below. I was wondering if you pulled some ideas from this room as well, I can see some similarities. If not then i suppose great minds think alike. Both rooms are top notch. Btw, I am buying the renders from the artist who who designed them, was just too costly to start from scratch. Best of luck finishing up.
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Thanks Dave.

I dont recall seeing that one but it does look similar and very nice.


That's great you were able to get some 3 d renders done. It should save you money in the long run.
post #2037 of 3008
Im pretty much completely hijacking this room. Will be using all Walnut. And after going through your build over and over, you have taught a ton. The woodwork is something I can do, but you did it all and I am sure I would miss some things w/out yours as a reference.

I think you are spot on about the render. It's a lot easier to plan and build when you have a picture. Not just one in your head. Unfortunately I will not be able to make changes real time, like you do with yours but what I want is so much alike this room it shouldn't matter.

Also, I know you put your speakers in the columns, but did you treat inside your columns or have the speaker at a calculated distance from the front, back, and side walls on the inside.
post #2038 of 3008
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Originally Posted by fax6202 View Post

Im pretty much completely hijacking this room. Will be using all Walnut. And after going through your build over and over, you have taught a ton. The woodwork is something I can do, but you did it all and I am sure I would miss some things w/out yours as a reference.
I think you are spot on about the render. It's a lot easier to plan and build when you have a picture. Not just one in your head. Unfortunately I will not be able to make changes real time, like you do with yours but what I want is so much alike this room it shouldn't matter.
Also, I know you put your speakers in the columns, but did you treat inside your columns or have the speaker at a calculated distance from the front, back, and side walls on the inside.


The Walnut should really add some class to the room.

When I designed the columns, I had to take into consideration the size of my speakers. The M&K SS-150's are angled on the sides so in the 3D model I was able to project out where the speaker sound goes and make sure it fell within the column cutout area. I haven't added any treatments to the room or columns yet, but I will be treating inside the columns. I may even use speaker shelve's above the speakers to add more OC703 into the upper portion's of the columns. The speakers are designed to be close to the wall so that's what I planned for.
post #2039 of 3008
Your 3D skills have assisted you a ton. Very valuable skill set. Im looking forward to seeing the finished project. Keep up the good work.
post #2040 of 3008
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I spent the weekend in the Theater foyer.

I wrapped up installing all the fabric, base, chair rail, crown and the corner trim. I did my last bit of coping (my least favorite thing to do) on one corner of the crown. I think it took me 2 hours for the one piece!

I do miss cutting in the theater. That was a huge time saver. Walking in/out in a 100 degree heat is no fun. I bought a small 10x10 popup canopy with sides to get a little relief from the sun which worked out pretty well. It would have also allowed me to keep working in case it rained; however, rain is pretty scarce right now in Wisconsin. smile.gif

It looks like I'll need to disassemble and spray paint the thermostat - it sticks out like a sore thumb.

The tray crown all got a finished coat from my FIL this morning and he gave the area behind the first row chairs a first coat of paint.

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