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post #2251 of 3008
Well, I've been struggling with a design for my theater. I may just save myself the trouble and copy Mario's. This is just amazing!
post #2252 of 3008
LOL - design done! Now to find someone to do lots of intricate woodwork and an unbelievable job of perfectionist painting. Oh and it all needs to be done cheaply and quickly...... smile.gif
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Originally Posted by hifiaudio2 View Post

LOL - design done! Now to find someone to do lots of intricate woodwork and an unbelievable job of perfectionist painting. Oh and it all needs to be done cheaply and quickly...... smile.gif

eek.gif Nothing like a little dose of reality biggrin.gif Maybe a nice wallpaper instead!
post #2254 of 3008
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Originally Posted by NightSkyMurals View Post

after the two rooms I sainted in Los Angeles yesterday

New line of work?
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New line of work?

Bwahahahahahaha!
post #2256 of 3008
LOL!!! It sounded nice at the time, but they wouldn't take me... so I guess I'm stuck painting. (i wish my iPhone was better at reading minds!)

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New line of work?
post #2257 of 3008
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Originally Posted by NightSkyMurals View Post

I don't mean to just barge in here and start yakking away... but I just have to let aaustin know about my experience with Mario's D Box. I'd never herd of one either, and whie he was showing me his incredible (seriously incredible) theater, he showed me the D Box. I had no clue what it did. So he had me sit in a chair, recline, and wait while he put on a movie.
Oh! My! Gosh!!! That was the biggest trip I've had watching a movie. The only way to describe it (for me) is to say that you don't just hear sounds, and see action.... but you experience it all. Sounds and movement come alive in a big way... just like you were in the movie.
Amazing!!!
Jeff

Thanks for the info Jeff! It sounds like a heck of a thrill ride! biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by aaustin View Post

I'd love to see some video of the D Box in action Mario. I've never really heard of it so I'm curious about how much it moves you around. Is it kind of subtle or more like a motion simulator?

While I don't think it moves more than 3/4", it's anything but subtle.

I'll try to get some video shot before the end of the week.
post #2259 of 3008
I always imagined it was subtle until I watched a few D-Box clips on Youtube the other night.
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Originally Posted by hifiaudio2 View Post

Are you talking about the paint on your wood steps and riser?


Yeah. I called Benjamin Moore and they said the paint should eventually harden but it just may take some time.

I may end up putting a clear coat over the top after doing a test first.
post #2261 of 3008
I experienced D-Box back many years ago in a home theater installer showroom near Champaign, IL. They wanted $20,000 for the setup that allowed for 2 seats. I do not recall model numbers or anything.

That one I was told moved half an inch is all, but WOW could you do a lot with movement less than the width of most of our pinkies on our hands.

Nice rolling movements like the demo from Finding Nemo where you are moving with the stingray, to feeling an engine rev of a racecar, to the abrupt jolt from a car crash. VERY awesome, but VERY expensive at $20,000. Not sure what they go for today without looking, but several (5+??) thousands of dollars for sure.
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Originally Posted by NightSkyMurals View Post

Hi Beer.... I paint in total darkness so I can see where the stars need to go, and where they've already been painted. Once my eyes adapt to the dark... The small jar of paint that I use is bright enough to see just fine. I usually even have to cover the paint with my hand because the jar can be too bright.

Thanks for the reply, it makes sense now.

Of course, now that you explained it, I would have loved to take a video of the process. Of course, you would need special video equipment, but time lapsing the video of stars "going up" would look really cool. Maybe when I win the lottery... rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by aaustin View Post

I'd love to see some video of the D Box in action Mario. I've never really heard of it so I'm curious about how much it moves you around. Is it kind of subtle or more like a motion simulator?

Hey Everyone.

I finally got around to posting a video of the D-Box motion platform in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIxtzX_fznk&feature=youtu.be
post #2264 of 3008
Wow Mario! If your theater isn't already at the top of the A list theaters on AVS, this surely puts it over the top. Your simply awesome theater must be like being on a thrill ride!

Dale
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Originally Posted by mcascio View Post

I finally got around to posting a video of the D-Box motion platform in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIxtzX_fznk&feature=youtu.be

Tisk tisk. You include a link to the video in your thread, but no link to your thread in the video? For shame. biggrin.gif
{Hey, with all the positive feedback you are going to get on just that video, combined with the (well deserved) praise for your build, I figured I needed to do something to help keep your head swelling down so you could still fit through doorways.}

Fantastic video, it shows exactly what the DBox can do for the movie watching experience. I haven't looked at the DBox web site, but I'll bet that clip matches or beats the profession advertising videos they created. Two thumbs way up!
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Hi Mario! Your the "MAN"! What a wonderful looking home theater. An important question needs to be asked, and that is how does the room sound with the system cranked ? How has the audio been calibrated, what processer and eq do you have and how is the low end (subs)working.Whats the video look like in your dedicated room? And last how has the soundproofing worked out,how much can you hear in the rest of the house?                                     Thanks!

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Originally Posted by mcascio View Post

Hey Everyone.
I finally got around to posting a video of the D-Box motion platform in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIxtzX_fznk&feature=youtu.be

Wow Mario! That looks like it is so awesome! And I thought that my bass shakers were cool. biggrin.gif

Thanks for posting the video. Now I want one....... wink.gif
post #2268 of 3008
Cool vid, any plans for a masking system ?
post #2269 of 3008
I saw a link in the description. Must have been added.

What *might* be cool would be to secure the camera on to the seats and get a simulated "first person perspective" of how they move with the movie. Then again, people might get sick. LOL

I say do it anyway. biggrin.gif
post #2270 of 3008
That might be cool to see if it works.... but you'd only get part of the experience. Not only does that thing move every which way, but it vibrates and shakes so that you feel the movie.

Jeff

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I saw a link in the description. Must have been added.
What *might* be cool would be to secure the camera on to the seats and get a simulated "first person perspective" of how they move with the movie. Then again, people might get sick. LOL
I say do it anyway. biggrin.gif
post #2271 of 3008
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What *might* be cool would be to secure the camera on to the seats and get a simulated "first person perspective" of how they move with the movie. /quote]

Definitely +2 - I was hoping to see this if it works.

In any case, Mario, your build continues to amaze. Perfection is so rare these days, so it's a treat to watch it unfold and to be the small part of it that you've allowed us to be.

Thanks!
Bryan
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Originally Posted by dvmiller View Post

Wow Mario! If your theater isn't already at the top of the A list theaters on AVS, this surely puts it over the top. Your simply awesome theater must be like being on a thrill ride!
Dale

Thank you very much Dale.

We had a few friends over on Friday night and the front row was a pretty big hit as well as the star ceiling.

I have a few more kinks to work out. I bought some inexpensive HDMI baluns online a while back that don't seem to be keeping their signal. So I ordered some other ones from monoprice that will hopefully do the trick.

I have things a bit more automated with the remote control. The Emotiva Amp has a trigger for powering it on. THe only problem is the Onkyo 3008 only has a trigger for Zones 2&3, which I can't use since that would eliminate some of the Wides/High speakers I'm using. So I eneded up using a Zone on my Cav66 to trigger on all the equipment. So from the remote, I blast an IR code that MLServer catches. MLServer then turns on the CAV zone for the Theater which has a trigger run to a Belkin PureAV PF60 power filter, this then has another trigger leading to the Emotiva Amp and then also turns on the Onkyo 3008 receiver. Complicated, but ended up working out pretty good. The other good thing is that if the CAV zone is on, I know for sure that everything is powered on and that something is going on in the theater...so I can build other conditionals based upon that. I was thinking of using the trigger on the projector, but I think I may just control that via serial...just in case I just want to listed to music it won't have to be on.
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Originally Posted by BeerParty View Post

Tisk tisk. You include a link to the video in your thread, but no link to your thread in the video? For shame. biggrin.gif
{Hey, with all the positive feedback you are going to get on just that video, combined with the (well deserved) praise for your build, I figured I needed to do something to help keep your head swelling down so you could still fit through doorways.}
Fantastic video, it shows exactly what the DBox can do for the movie watching experience. I haven't looked at the DBox web site, but I'll bet that clip matches or beats the profession advertising videos they created. Two thumbs way up!

Thanks for giving me a heads up on not including the link back to this thread. It's now there.

I shot the video with an old Panasonic still camera. I should reshoot it with my HD video camera. I'll try to tackle that since I think it would look much better.
post #2274 of 3008
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Originally Posted by dragonleepenn View Post

Hi Mario! Your the "MAN"! What a wonderful looking home theater. An important question needs to be asked, and that is how does the room sound with the system cranked ? How has the audio been calibrated, what processer and eq do you have and how is the low end (subs)working.Whats the video look like in your dedicated room? And last how has the soundproofing worked out,how much can you hear in the rest of the house?                                     Thanks!

To me, and everyone else who has heard it, the theater sounds great. I'm sure it can be improved though. The sub could probably use another brother, but the D-Box kind of makes up for it in some respects.

I will eventually start doing some room measurements once I have it all controlled and the bugs worked out. Yet another thing I'll need to learn.

I've just used Audyssey through my Onkyo and it seems to have done a great job. You can really crank it, although I still have some head room to go that I haven't reached yet.

The video looks fantastics, but again, I'm sure another projector would give me some more brightness. I can tell from outside the theater that the picture isn't as bright as the LED in the bar area since you can see both together as you walk in. But really the room is really dark so the picture just pops with the Seymour AV screen.

The video and audio though are like everything else, you don't know what you are missing until you have something to compare it to.

I have to do some official testing, but the sound proofing has worked very well. I did hear the DBox platform though in my daughters room up above. It sounded like distant thunder. But here's where I may have screwed up a bit. I failed to DD/GG the theater foyer. I've found when entertaining, the theater door remains open. So the sound leakage may actually be in the foyer area. I need to perform some more tests though with the theater door closed to see what I can hear upstairs. But I'm extremely happy with the results. The fact that I can listen to it at the levels I am at 3am without anyone complaining is an incredible feeling.

In hindsight, I also should have disconnected the area below the DBox platform from the entire floor structure. That would have prevent any vibrations from stretching out to other areas. There are rubber pads under the DBox actuators, but I'm sure some energy is still being transferred.
Edited by mcascio - 8/19/12 at 6:22pm
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Originally Posted by nickbuol View Post

I saw a link in the description. Must have been added.
What *might* be cool would be to secure the camera on to the seats and get a simulated "first person perspective" of how they move with the movie. Then again, people might get sick. LOL
I say do it anyway. biggrin.gif

That's a great idea...the only problem is I don't think my camera will have a wide enough lens. But I'll give it a shot. I'll need to figure out a way to secure the camera.
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Originally Posted by HFGuy View Post

Cool vid, any plans for a masking system ?

I have the masking panels from Seymour AV. I just didn't have them up when I shot the video. The corner cabinets work great though for storing them.
post #2277 of 3008
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Ok. So I tried videoing the car scene from the movie "2012" while sitting in the front row with the DBox on.

Unfortunately, my video camera doesn't have a wide enough angle lens to show more of the room. It just looks like a guy with Parkinson's disease in the front row of the theater trying to pirate the movie with his hand held camera.

You can tell when the big bumps hit though, the camera just bounces around.
post #2278 of 3008
I'm loving the NightSky mural Mario. I cut that from my initial build due to cost, but after seeing it in your thread here I am seriously feeling the itch to re-visit it. I'm not sure if I'd have enough room to fit some black lights up in the soffit without tearing mine down again though.
post #2279 of 3008
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Originally Posted by J_P_A View Post

Well, I've been struggling with a design for my theater. I may just save myself the trouble and copy Mario's. This is just amazing!

An excellent idea. I probably would do the same if I did mine over again. That, and not buy that defective Onkyo pre-amp wink.gif
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Originally Posted by damelon View Post

I'm loving the NightSky mural Mario. I cut that from my initial build due to cost, but after seeing it in your thread here I am seriously feeling the itch to re-visit it. I'm not sure if I'd have enough room to fit some black lights up in the soffit without tearing mine down again though.

That's the nice thing about doing the painted mural over the fiber optics. You can do it after the build is complete...assuming you planned for black lights. Hopefully you can make it work.

I opted for having the mural done instead of purchasing another sub or saving for a better projector. I figure I can get by with the sub and projector I have for now and officially call the room construction itself done.
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