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post #2401 of 2757
9/26/12 at 11:20am
Mario... I can't remember if you have an iPad or not. If so, then you can get an app called ImotionHD. You can set it to take pictures at set intervals. I've just used it to make movies (like clouds moving and changing in fast motion), but I'd bet you could grab each pic and use them as a composite. If to, I'm sure there are other apps that would work. But, what do I know.
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post #2402 of 2757
9/27/12 at 9:01am
AWESOME !!!

By the way, what software are you guys using to rip your Bluray movies to local drives? And what format (mkv or mp4)

Thx
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post #2403 of 2757
9/27/12 at 10:41am
Wasn't able to read every post but I skimmed all 81 pages, fantastic, absolutely fantastic. Not just the end product but the level of detail of documentation. Makes me wish I still remembered how to use 3D studio and make some renders.

Thanks so much for all of your documentation I'm sure I'll refer back to some of it once I gut mine for inspiration.
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post #2404 of 2757
9/27/12 at 2:54pm
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AWESOME !!!

By the way, what software are you guys using to rip your Bluray movies to local drives? And what format (mkv or mp4)

Thx
I use MakeMKV which of course converts to MKV. Very simple and free!
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post #2405 of 2757
9/28/12 at 4:07pm
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Originally Posted by NightSkyMurals View Post

Mario... I can't remember if you have an iPad or not. If so, then you can get an app called ImotionHD. You can set it to take pictures at set intervals. I've just used it to make movies (like clouds moving and changing in fast motion), but I'd bet you could grab each pic and use them as a composite. If to, I'm sure there are other apps that would work. But, what do I know.

Unfortunately I don't think the iPad would give you a wide enough angle to shoot the shots that I was able to take with my Canon. But it's a good idea if someone doesn't have a digital camera.
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post #2406 of 2757
9/28/12 at 4:08pm
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Wasn't able to read every post but I skimmed all 81 pages, fantastic, absolutely fantastic. Not just the end product but the level of detail of documentation. Makes me wish I still remembered how to use 3D studio and make some renders.
Thanks so much for all of your documentation I'm sure I'll refer back to some of it once I gut mine for inspiration.

Congrats on making it through all 81 pages. wink.gif You're very welcome.

It'll probably be like riding a bike if you decide to jump back into 3D studio.
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post #2407 of 2757
9/28/12 at 4:12pm
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I snapped a few more pics today that I thought I'd post.

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post #2408 of 2757
9/28/12 at 7:28pm
I'm sure you are tired of hearing me say this...Awesome!!! Everything. Just all inspiring.
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post #2409 of 2757
9/29/12 at 11:07am
Sure turned out great Mario, thanks for taking the time to share the nicely done pics. And makes me want to to MainLobby another look. Always need more toys!
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post #2410 of 2757
9/29/12 at 11:14am
Geez.

Wow.

Words just don't do it...
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post #2411 of 2757
9/29/12 at 3:10pm
Nice work!
I have been following this from the get go. Well ever since I became a member.
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post #2412 of 2757
10/1/12 at 7:43am
the cinemar software is starting to grow on me smile.gif

love the simplicity of it ,,, nice clean design
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post #2413 of 2757
10/1/12 at 9:27am
Mario-
IDK if you posted it already but how do you like the D-BOX? Is it worth the price tag?
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post #2414 of 2757
10/1/12 at 11:43am
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Mario-
IDK if you posted it already but how do you like the D-BOX? Is it worth the price tag?
I suspect Mario's works better than most, as he went with the full floating platform installation. That is critical to the success of the effect.

I tried both the platform and the "single chair" version (the latter at a movie theater), and while the chair action was the same, the latter is a waste of time. Your feet touch the floor and that totally breaks the illusion because your brain knows what the chair is doing. Pull your feet off the floor if you decide to try one of the D-Box theaters in the Chicago area. It's a totally different effect!
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post #2415 of 2757
10/1/12 at 1:56pm
Did you ever try rendering the paneling and columns is a dark wood just to see what it looks like? Staining that much wood would be a chore and of course it would all have to be built with hardwood and veneered plywood but it might look cool.
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post #2416 of 2757
10/2/12 at 10:15am
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Did you ever try rendering the paneling and columns is a dark wood just to see what it looks like? Staining that much wood would be a chore and of course it would all have to be built with hardwood and veneered plywood but it might look cool.

Agreed, but after struggling through a hardwood build for a much less ambitious theater, I would suggest that Mario made a good choice to go with painted. Building a theater out of Mahogany was like building a 15' x 20' piece of furniture and it took me about 15 months with at least one day each weekend. Certainly never again, at least for me... smile.gif

Bryan
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post #2417 of 2757
10/2/12 at 11:39am
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I'm sure you are tired of hearing me say this...Awesome!!! Everything. Just all inspiring.

Not at all. Thanks so much.
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post #2418 of 2757
10/2/12 at 11:40am
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Originally Posted by Brad Horstkotte View Post

Sure turned out great Mario, thanks for taking the time to share the nicely done pics. And makes me want to to MainLobby another look. Always need more toys!

Thanks Brad. You bet. Give me a shout if you need any help getting up and running with MainLobby Version 4.
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post #2419 of 2757
10/2/12 at 11:45am
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Geez.
Wow.
Words just don't do it...

Thanks cowger.

It's good to be done with the construction portion. Although, my wife finally convinced me to finish putting in shelving in the last remaining closet.

My next small project will be building a hard vinyl cover for the shuffle board table so I can turn it into a buffet during the big games.
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post #2420 of 2757
10/2/12 at 11:46am
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Nice work!
I have been following this from the get go. Well ever since I became a member.

Glad you stuck with me on this one. I know it was a long journey.

BTW, for those of you interested, I have started to index this thread slowly but surely. It's located in the first post of this thread. I'll continue to add to it as time permits.
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post #2421 of 2757
10/2/12 at 11:49am
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the cinemar software is starting to grow on me smile.gif
love the simplicity of it ,,, nice clean design

Good to hear snickers1. Let me know if you need assistance getting up and running.
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post #2422 of 2757
10/2/12 at 12:32pm
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Mario-
IDK if you posted it already but how do you like the D-BOX? Is it worth the price tag?

I do like the D-Box. It certainly adds a WOW factor unlike anything else including 3D.

It's certainly the biggest wow factor you could add to a theater...especially if you can afford it.
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post #2423 of 2757
10/2/12 at 12:32pm
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I suspect Mario's works better than most, as he went with the full floating platform installation. That is critical to the success of the effect.
I tried both the platform and the "single chair" version (the latter at a movie theater), and while the chair action was the same, the latter is a waste of time. Your feet touch the floor and that totally breaks the illusion because your brain knows what the chair is doing. Pull your feet off the floor if you decide to try one of the D-Box theaters in the Chicago area. It's a totally different effect!

Good to note Roger.

I've never experienced the single chair's.
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post #2424 of 2757
10/2/12 at 12:34pm
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Originally Posted by design1stcode2nd View Post

Did you ever try rendering the paneling and columns is a dark wood just to see what it looks like? Staining that much wood would be a chore and of course it would all have to be built with hardwood and veneered plywood but it might look cool.

No. I was pretty much set on black from the get go.

If I did go with a wood grain look though, it would have been a cherry stain. But I don't think I personally would have liked it as much as the black.
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post #2425 of 2757
10/2/12 at 12:34pm
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Originally Posted by cowger View Post

Agreed, but after struggling through a hardwood build for a much less ambitious theater, I would suggest that Mario made a good choice to go with painted. Building a theater out of Mahogany was like building a 15' x 20' piece of furniture and it took me about 15 months with at least one day each weekend. Certainly never again, at least for me... smile.gif
Bryan

Bryan,

I can only imagine your pain. That's a lot of work!!!
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post #2426 of 2757
10/2/12 at 1:21pm
I hope this isn't too much but I've re-read through most of the posts and along the way have come up with some questions. And believe it or not I had more questions but they were answered later on in your thread. Now that's not to say these weren't answered as well and that I just missed them.

  1. What was the thinking behind having a raised platform above the concrete floor in the lower level?
  2. What in wall power solution did you use to connect the projector to a battery backup?
  3. For the LED lights on the steps where did you get the power to them (behind the first row recliners?) How are you handling getting the IR signal to them?
  4. For your front/corner cabinets did you just want to go with doors instead of "snap" on panels? It gives it a nice furniture grade look but I can't imagine you'd need to get inside there very often (I did see later that you store your masking panels there which is a good idea. Mine I prop up against the wall which I've never liked). I would think magnets, Velcro or some sort of catch would have worked as well. Don't get me wrong it looks great I'm just curious as to your thought process behind it.
  5. For the sides and lower parts of your columns you have cutouts covered by GOM fabric. Is this for consistency to the main upper panel where the speaker projects out of or to allow sound to enter the column and be absorbed by denim/OC3?

Also if possible could you PM me the cost of the mural? I'd like to see if this is something in the ballpark I could afford later on. If it's something you'd prefer not to do I totally understand. I can PM Night sky with proposed dimenions and get a quote.

Thanks in advance!
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post #2427 of 2757
10/2/12 at 1:50pm
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Originally Posted by design1stcode2nd View Post

I hope this isn't too much but I've re-read through most of the posts and along the way have come up with some questions. And believe it or not I had more questions but they were answered later on in your thread. Now that's not to say these weren't answered as well and that I just missed them.
  1. What was the thinking behind having a raised platform above the concrete floor in the lower level?
  2. What in wall power solution did you use to connect the projector to a battery backup?
  3. For the LED lights on the steps where did you get the power to them (behind the first row recliners?) How are you handling getting the IR signal to them?
  4. For your front/corner cabinets did you just want to go with doors instead of "snap" on panels? It gives it a nice furniture grade look but I can't imagine you'd need to get inside there very often (I did see later that you store your masking panels there which is a good idea. Mine I prop up against the wall which I've never liked). I would think magnets, Velcro or some sort of catch would have worked as well. Don't get me wrong it looks great I'm just curious as to your thought process behind it.
  5. For the sides and lower parts of your columns you have cutouts covered by GOM fabric. Is this for consistency to the main upper panel where the speaker projects out of or to allow sound to enter the column and be absorbed by denim/OC3?
Also if possible could you PM me the cost of the mural? I'd like to see if this is something in the ballpark I could afford later on. If it's something you'd prefer not to do I totally understand. I can PM Night sky with proposed dimenions and get a quote.
Thanks in advance!

Not at all. All great questions.

1. The main reason was to prevent the lower level seating from being too low on the screen. Had I gone with a 16x9 screen, I might not have had to move the lower level up since the screen may have gone lower to the floor. But it also helps prevent damage to the DBOX actuators should the lower level area start to flood.

2. I used this for to extend the projector electric into the rack area: http://www.amazon.com/Midlite-A46-B-D%C3%A9cor-Recessed-Receptacle/dp/B002KF3WA8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1349210685&sr=8-1&keywords=Midlite+A46-B+D%C3%A9cor+Recessed+Outlet

3. Yes. Power is behind the front row seats in the lower wall. I ran a cat5 cable to them. I currently have them connected to an Insteon Applicance Module so I can turn them on/off using the keypad at the entry door. I tested the IR control from MainLobby and it works, but I haven't built the UI for it yet with all the colored buttons.

4. I wanted the cabinet style appearance for the entire front. I'm not sure how much time moving to snap in or velcro solution would have saved me in the end anyways. It is nice to have access back there. I currently have the sub in the middle front. I can easily access the back of the sub by opening an adjoining door.

5. In this case both. I have tripole speakers in the columns. I still have to put OC703 in the bottom portions and the two empty columns.

I went with Jeff's top-of-the-line option. Just shoot him an email and he'll provide you the various pricing options based upon the size of your room. No harm in inquiring on the pricing.
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post #2428 of 2757
10/2/12 at 2:25pm
Thanks for the detailed and quick replies. Hopefully I can begin a build in late winter when my brother the trim carpenter can devote a number of days to it. I just have to hold, cut and nail what he tells me to. I have to say I’m impressed at the level of quality in trim/cabinets you produced without any specific training.

Once you do look for subs keep in mind the HSU Research VTF-15H. I’ve had one for about a year and I’ve found it to be quite impressive (The Avengers actually rattled my basement windows and I didn’t have it very loud). It’s no Seaton but then for the price you can’t really expect that. I think a pair of those would work great in your space.
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post #2429 of 2757
10/3/12 at 8:07am
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Thanks for the detailed and quick replies. Hopefully I can begin a build in late winter when my brother the trim carpenter can devote a number of days to it. I just have to hold, cut and nail what he tells me to. I have to say I’m impressed at the level of quality in trim/cabinets you produced without any specific training.
Once you do look for subs keep in mind the HSU Research VTF-15H. I’ve had one for about a year and I’ve found it to be quite impressive (The Avengers actually rattled my basement windows and I didn’t have it very loud). It’s no Seaton but then for the price you can’t really expect that. I think a pair of those would work great in your space.

You're welcome. Good luck on your build. I'm sure you'll probably pick things up faster with your brother showing you how to do it.

The VTF-15H is actually my top pick based upon bang for the buck. But with a 1 yr old, basement and theater build all at once, I've got to tighten up the pocket book. smile.gif
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post #2430 of 2757
10/4/12 at 11:54am
Thank you very much for sharing your build and thanks again for the chat. This product looks amazing. Please get some dealers in the Northern California area. smile.gif
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