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Sure turned out great Mario, thanks for taking the time to share the nicely done pics. And makes me want to to MainLobby another look. Always need more toys!

Thanks Brad. You bet. Give me a shout if you need any help getting up and running with MainLobby Version 4.
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Geez.
Wow.
Words just don't do it...

Thanks cowger.

It's good to be done with the construction portion. Although, my wife finally convinced me to finish putting in shelving in the last remaining closet.

My next small project will be building a hard vinyl cover for the shuffle board table so I can turn it into a buffet during the big games.
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Nice work!
I have been following this from the get go. Well ever since I became a member.

Glad you stuck with me on this one. I know it was a long journey.

BTW, for those of you interested, I have started to index this thread slowly but surely. It's located in the first post of this thread. I'll continue to add to it as time permits.
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the cinemar software is starting to grow on me smile.gif
love the simplicity of it ,,, nice clean design

Good to hear snickers1. Let me know if you need assistance getting up and running.
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Mario-
IDK if you posted it already but how do you like the D-BOX? Is it worth the price tag?

I do like the D-Box. It certainly adds a WOW factor unlike anything else including 3D.

It's certainly the biggest wow factor you could add to a theater...especially if you can afford it.
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I suspect Mario's works better than most, as he went with the full floating platform installation. That is critical to the success of the effect.
I tried both the platform and the "single chair" version (the latter at a movie theater), and while the chair action was the same, the latter is a waste of time. Your feet touch the floor and that totally breaks the illusion because your brain knows what the chair is doing. Pull your feet off the floor if you decide to try one of the D-Box theaters in the Chicago area. It's a totally different effect!

Good to note Roger.

I've never experienced the single chair's.
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Did you ever try rendering the paneling and columns is a dark wood just to see what it looks like? Staining that much wood would be a chore and of course it would all have to be built with hardwood and veneered plywood but it might look cool.

No. I was pretty much set on black from the get go.

If I did go with a wood grain look though, it would have been a cherry stain. But I don't think I personally would have liked it as much as the black.
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Agreed, but after struggling through a hardwood build for a much less ambitious theater, I would suggest that Mario made a good choice to go with painted. Building a theater out of Mahogany was like building a 15' x 20' piece of furniture and it took me about 15 months with at least one day each weekend. Certainly never again, at least for me... smile.gif
Bryan

Bryan,

I can only imagine your pain. That's a lot of work!!!
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I hope this isn't too much but I've re-read through most of the posts and along the way have come up with some questions. And believe it or not I had more questions but they were answered later on in your thread. Now that's not to say these weren't answered as well and that I just missed them.

  1. What was the thinking behind having a raised platform above the concrete floor in the lower level?
  2. What in wall power solution did you use to connect the projector to a battery backup?
  3. For the LED lights on the steps where did you get the power to them (behind the first row recliners?) How are you handling getting the IR signal to them?
  4. For your front/corner cabinets did you just want to go with doors instead of "snap" on panels? It gives it a nice furniture grade look but I can't imagine you'd need to get inside there very often (I did see later that you store your masking panels there which is a good idea. Mine I prop up against the wall which I've never liked). I would think magnets, Velcro or some sort of catch would have worked as well. Don't get me wrong it looks great I'm just curious as to your thought process behind it.
  5. For the sides and lower parts of your columns you have cutouts covered by GOM fabric. Is this for consistency to the main upper panel where the speaker projects out of or to allow sound to enter the column and be absorbed by denim/OC3?

Also if possible could you PM me the cost of the mural? I'd like to see if this is something in the ballpark I could afford later on. If it's something you'd prefer not to do I totally understand. I can PM Night sky with proposed dimenions and get a quote.

Thanks in advance!
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I hope this isn't too much but I've re-read through most of the posts and along the way have come up with some questions. And believe it or not I had more questions but they were answered later on in your thread. Now that's not to say these weren't answered as well and that I just missed them.
  1. What was the thinking behind having a raised platform above the concrete floor in the lower level?
  2. What in wall power solution did you use to connect the projector to a battery backup?
  3. For the LED lights on the steps where did you get the power to them (behind the first row recliners?) How are you handling getting the IR signal to them?
  4. For your front/corner cabinets did you just want to go with doors instead of "snap" on panels? It gives it a nice furniture grade look but I can't imagine you'd need to get inside there very often (I did see later that you store your masking panels there which is a good idea. Mine I prop up against the wall which I've never liked). I would think magnets, Velcro or some sort of catch would have worked as well. Don't get me wrong it looks great I'm just curious as to your thought process behind it.
  5. For the sides and lower parts of your columns you have cutouts covered by GOM fabric. Is this for consistency to the main upper panel where the speaker projects out of or to allow sound to enter the column and be absorbed by denim/OC3?
Also if possible could you PM me the cost of the mural? I'd like to see if this is something in the ballpark I could afford later on. If it's something you'd prefer not to do I totally understand. I can PM Night sky with proposed dimenions and get a quote.
Thanks in advance!

Not at all. All great questions.

1. The main reason was to prevent the lower level seating from being too low on the screen. Had I gone with a 16x9 screen, I might not have had to move the lower level up since the screen may have gone lower to the floor. But it also helps prevent damage to the DBOX actuators should the lower level area start to flood.

2. I used this for to extend the projector electric into the rack area: http://www.amazon.com/Midlite-A46-B-D%C3%A9cor-Recessed-Receptacle/dp/B002KF3WA8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1349210685&sr=8-1&keywords=Midlite+A46-B+D%C3%A9cor+Recessed+Outlet

3. Yes. Power is behind the front row seats in the lower wall. I ran a cat5 cable to them. I currently have them connected to an Insteon Applicance Module so I can turn them on/off using the keypad at the entry door. I tested the IR control from MainLobby and it works, but I haven't built the UI for it yet with all the colored buttons.

4. I wanted the cabinet style appearance for the entire front. I'm not sure how much time moving to snap in or velcro solution would have saved me in the end anyways. It is nice to have access back there. I currently have the sub in the middle front. I can easily access the back of the sub by opening an adjoining door.

5. In this case both. I have tripole speakers in the columns. I still have to put OC703 in the bottom portions and the two empty columns.

I went with Jeff's top-of-the-line option. Just shoot him an email and he'll provide you the various pricing options based upon the size of your room. No harm in inquiring on the pricing.
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Thanks for the detailed and quick replies. Hopefully I can begin a build in late winter when my brother the trim carpenter can devote a number of days to it. I just have to hold, cut and nail what he tells me to. I have to say I’m impressed at the level of quality in trim/cabinets you produced without any specific training.

Once you do look for subs keep in mind the HSU Research VTF-15H. I’ve had one for about a year and I’ve found it to be quite impressive (The Avengers actually rattled my basement windows and I didn’t have it very loud). It’s no Seaton but then for the price you can’t really expect that. I think a pair of those would work great in your space.
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Thanks for the detailed and quick replies. Hopefully I can begin a build in late winter when my brother the trim carpenter can devote a number of days to it. I just have to hold, cut and nail what he tells me to. I have to say I’m impressed at the level of quality in trim/cabinets you produced without any specific training.
Once you do look for subs keep in mind the HSU Research VTF-15H. I’ve had one for about a year and I’ve found it to be quite impressive (The Avengers actually rattled my basement windows and I didn’t have it very loud). It’s no Seaton but then for the price you can’t really expect that. I think a pair of those would work great in your space.

You're welcome. Good luck on your build. I'm sure you'll probably pick things up faster with your brother showing you how to do it.

The VTF-15H is actually my top pick based upon bang for the buck. But with a 1 yr old, basement and theater build all at once, I've got to tighten up the pocket book. smile.gif
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Thank you very much for sharing your build and thanks again for the chat. This product looks amazing. Please get some dealers in the Northern California area. smile.gif
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How do you like your screen size for 16:9 viewing? Mainly TV and Sports? Do you have masking panels, do you find the screen big enough for the packers games? smile.gif
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Thank you very much for sharing your build and thanks again for the chat. This product looks amazing. Please get some dealers in the Northern California area. smile.gif

You bet Tony. Glad you made it through the thread.

Our Remote Jump Start Program is our white glove service to remotely assist you in setting our system up should there not be a dealer in your area. So we've got you covered.
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How do you like your screen size for 16:9 viewing? Mainly TV and Sports? Do you have masking panels, do you find the screen big enough for the packers games? smile.gif

I think it worked out well and everyone who has been in there thought the players were larger than life. I haven't watched any TV in there, but have watched a few games.

I do have the Seymour AV AT masking panels. They are pretty cool and use magnets to attach to their frame.

I think it's plenty big.
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So I've got a working virtual movie poster now that dynamically updates.
Here's how it works, once you select the movie from MainLobby for the dedicated movie player for the theater, the movie poster is instantly displayed on the Virtual Movie Poster LED.
The Start and End Time's are automatically calculated.
I also display the rating, year, aspect ratio and run time.
There's still a lot more I'd like to do but due to time constraints it'll have to wait. I'd like to add some light sheens to the movie poster soon though to help draw the eye to the screen. It would also be really easy to scroll the synopsis along the bottom. It definitely deserves some movement to take advantage of the technology.
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Here's another look at it since the photo doesn't quite do it justice.
virtual_movie_poster_1.00.jpg

Le Sigh....

I wish I had never seen this. I'm approaching the end of my build and it is turning out just fine, now this makes me want to tear down the drywall at the theater entrance and add an extra hdmi and power cabling to support this killer feature! Nice job and implementation, the only thing it looks like you need to do is remove that logo on the tv.
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Mario,

Thanks for the wealth of info in your thread. I'm wondering if you've considered posting a post-mortum on any decisions that in hind-sight you wouldn't make again.

I think with so many people emulating pieces of your theater, this would be extremely helpful.

Personally, I'm wondering how your paint selections are holding up. I'm considering a very similar color scheme and could possibly use the same colors/brand/finish. I'm also wondering how the painted MDF panels/columns are holding up as I'm interesting in doing something similar.

Thanks for all your time!
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Mario,

I only just looked at the final pics. Fabulous job!

The only thing I'm not sure about is whether you have actually built the theater or perfected the art of rendering it tongue.gif
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Le Sigh....
I wish I had never seen this. I'm approaching the end of my build and it is turning out just fine, now this makes me want to tear down the drywall at the theater entrance and add an extra hdmi and power cabling to support this killer feature! Nice job and implementation, the only thing it looks like you need to do is remove that logo on the tv.

If you can sneak a cat5 near an outlet you could use a VGA balun to supply the video feed.

I did attempt to remove the TCL logo using GOOF OFF, but no luck. Maybe I just try rubbing alcohol.
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Originally Posted by ScAndal View Post

Mario,
Thanks for the wealth of info in your thread. I'm wondering if you've considered posting a post-mortum on any decisions that in hind-sight you wouldn't make again.
I think with so many people emulating pieces of your theater, this would be extremely helpful.
Personally, I'm wondering how your paint selections are holding up. I'm considering a very similar color scheme and could possibly use the same colors/brand/finish. I'm also wondering how the painted MDF panels/columns are holding up as I'm interesting in doing something similar.
Thanks for all your time!


ScAndal,

You're welcome.

I know I did give some responses to what I would have done differently earlier in this thread.

One thing that comes to mind now is that I would have just sound proofed the theater foyer area too since I end up leaving the door to the theater open during games or family events where people are coming / going.

The paint is holding up great. You do see foot prints or finger prints on the steps and door from time to time. I've found a damp sponge works good for cleaning them up.

I haven't seen any issues with the painted MDF. The BIN did a great job of protecting and sealing the MDF.

Hope this helps.
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Mario,
I only just looked at the final pics. Fabulous job!
The only thing I'm not sure about is whether you have actually built the theater or perfected the art of rendering it tongue.gif

Hi Moggie.

Thanks very much. Your theater was certainly a motivator for me to take on much of the work myself. So I must thank you for that. Especially when it came to tackling the oak stairs and bullnose.

Hopefully both our theaters will give back to the community for years to come.

I guess we'll never know if it's for real or not. smile.gif
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Mario - I can't help but wonder how someone like yourself keeps dust from being a factor with that much black in your decor? Does that carpet you picked outnot produce a lot of dust? I just hooked up the Oppo 103 player and took the time to clean out my AV rack and it amazes me how much dust collects on our equipment.
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I think HP makes a wireless hdmi setup that seems to work, around $100.

I was thinking more about your "Now Playing" poster, what happens when no movie is playing? If it is just blank then, you might consider a rotating set of art with a "Coming Soon" label at the top.
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Mario - I can't help but wonder how someone like yourself keeps dust from being a factor with that much black in your decor? Does that carpet you picked outnot produce a lot of dust? I just hooked up the Oppo 103 player and took the time to clean out my AV rack and it amazes me how much dust collects on our equipment.

Hi Tony,

I guess I haven't noticed a lot of dust in there. There's not a lot of flat surfaces for dust to collect on and if it's sitting on the carpet I haven't noticed it.

I only run the fan/cool/heat when we're in the room so there's not alot of movement to push dust around.

I do see quite a bit of dust in other areas of our home since the build, so perhaps the black just helps hide it.

The central vac also helps in reducing the amount of dust since it all goes directly into the garage.

I definitely see a lot of dust near my AV racks though.
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I think HP makes a wireless hdmi setup that seems to work, around $100.
I was thinking more about your "Now Playing" poster, what happens when no movie is playing? If it is just blank then, you might consider a rotating set of art with a "Coming Soon" label at the top.

Yeah. I know there are wireless options out there, but I don't have any personal experience with any of them. But that's a really good idea for someone who hasn't preplanned for it.

As of now, I haven't done anything beyond what you've seen. So it would show the same info for the time in between me selecting the next movie. Which for me isn't a big deal since the monitor is off unless I'm entertaining.

I could easily create another scene that it could switch to and display rotating posters. Skys the limit! smile.gif
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For those interested. I've been picking away at the index slowly but surely.

This thread is now indexed through Jan 29th, 2012. I'll continue to index it bit by bit.

The index is in the first post of this thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1208912/the-cinemar-home-theater-construction-thread
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For those interested. I've been picking away at the index slowly but surely.
This thread is now indexed through Jan 29th, 2012. I'll continue to index it bit by bit.
The index is in the first post of this thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1208912/the-cinemar-home-theater-construction-thread

That's nice and everything, but I have to scroll past your theater summary and all of your pictures to actually get to the index, since you put it at the END of the first post.wink.gif

Seriously though, thanks for taking the time to do that. Certainly not necessary, but like all of your other contributions, very much appreciated.
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That's nice and everything, but I have to scroll past your theater summary and all of your pictures to actually get to the index, since you put it at the END of the first post.wink.gif
Seriously though, thanks for taking the time to do that. Certainly not necessary, but like all of your other contributions, very much appreciated.

Poor Mario can't catch a break. (I was just about to post the same thing.) tongue.gif

Just excelent all around. I've been bookmarking things on this tread to refer back to. I can throw all that away now with the index. Thanks again.
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I was gonna move it to the top when I finished the index. wink.gif
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