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post #2491 of 3008
Where did you get yor roll of ecoshield? I called the titus dealar in my area and he could not get just the denim by the roll.
post #2492 of 3008
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Originally Posted by allybuck64 View Post

Where did you get yor roll of ecoshield? I called the titus dealar in my area and he could not get just the denim by the roll.

Given that I had it drop-shipped to me anyways, I don't really think it matters if you find it locally.

I bought it through http://www.vyron.com/ (Brookfield, Wi Branch) - ask for Tim Barham.

Hope that helps.
post #2493 of 3008
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I converted an old HP touchsmart PC into a MegaTouch gaming station at the bar outside the theater.

Much less expensive going this route. I can also turn it into a jukebox and run MainLobby on it as well.

It's been working out really well and adds a nice gaming element to the bar area.




post #2494 of 3008
mcascio your bar area looks really nice. Did you build the bar or was it made for you?

I ask as I have a small bar height area in my build and I am looking for finishing design ideas as its currently faced in plywood.
post #2495 of 3008
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Originally Posted by LexMan View Post

mcascio your bar area looks really nice. Did you build the bar or was it made for you?
I ask as I have a small bar height area in my build and I am looking for finishing design ideas as its currently faced in plywood.

I designed the bar using cabinetry from Lowe's. I used cabinet doors to create the front panel looking design on the face of the bar.

If you look back earlier in my thread, you'll find more detailed designs of the bar. I used a variety of mouldings to create the finished look.
post #2496 of 3008
Mario, does MegaTouch run in a windows environment, or does it run in Linux or on top of it's own custom OS? What was the process of 'converting' the PC into the station (I'm an IT professional so I don't get scared by the "tech talk" and whatnot).
MegaTouch's website doesn't really get very specific.

(I apologize if you mentioned this previously in the thread, I couldn't find any reference.)
post #2497 of 3008
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Originally Posted by tephlon View Post

Mario, does MegaTouch run in a windows environment, or does it run in Linux or on top of it's own custom OS? What was the process of 'converting' the PC into the station (I'm an IT professional so I don't get scared by the "tech talk" and whatnot).
MegaTouch's website doesn't really get very specific.
(I apologize if you mentioned this previously in the thread, I couldn't find any reference.)

Sorry. My post may have been misleading. It's still a standard Windows PC running Windows software...I'm just using it to emulate a MegaTouch type gaming system.

I'm using games from PopCap. I'm planning to eliminate the windows look and feel using MainLobby.

I can set it up to list all the various games available on the system, they click the icon to launch the game. When they exit that game, it will bring them back to the same graphical menu listing all the available games.

Check out www.popcap.com - they've got some nice games. Bejeweled 2 is a fan favorite.
post #2498 of 3008
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Originally Posted by mcascio View Post

I installed some 1/4" oak over the edges of the double layer OSB behind the front row.




Then I routed all edges on the remaining bull noses and dry fitted everything to make sure I was in good shape. I used a 1/2" round over bit on the fronts and a 1/8" round over bit on the back side edge that faces the carpeting. I'm using biscuit joints to connect them. But next phase will be installing the base shoe underneath.







I wanted sharp edges at the corners. So I routed each piece individually. To prevent from rounding the corner, which is easy to do, I'd butt a scrap piece of wood right next to the piece I was routing so I could route right through the end.

What size did your step nosings end up? I guess what I am asking is how deep are they and how much of an overhand did you go with? I need to make some for my riser and I was thinking about using 1x4 oak with the 1/2 x 3/4 shoe that you used. Mine is straight across so it would end up 3 1/2" deep and I was thinking about a 1 1/4" to 1 1/2" overhang. Besides adhesive, how did you attach the nosings to the OSB decking? Did you countersink screws and then fill the holes?
post #2499 of 3008
1-1/4" is the maximum permissible by code. My pre-milled landing tread is 3-1/2" wide with a 1-1/4" overhang.
post #2500 of 3008
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Tim is right. You don't want to go beyond 1 1/4".

Mine was 3.5" wide with a 1 1/8" overhang. That left room to mount the LED strips as well.

This post here has some pretty good photos and details about how I attached the bull nose:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1208912/the-cinemar-home-theater-construction-thread/1470#post_21827098

Picture from post above:
post #2501 of 3008
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Originally Posted by Mr.Tim View Post

1-1/4" is the maximum permissible by code. My pre-milled landing tread is 3-1/2" wide with a 1-1/4" overhang.

Is that a national code? The main staircase in our home has a 2" overhang on the treads (built in 2006).
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Originally Posted by Spaceman View Post

Is that a national code? The main staircase in our home has a 2" overhang on the treads (built in 2006).

Each State adopts their own codes, but the majority use the International Codes. A quick google seems to indicate Houston uses the 2006 International Residential Code. A 2" overhang is unsafe, IMHO. You should have 10" measured from nose-to-nose of the tread (NOT from the face of the riser to the nose of the tread). When I have seen the larger overhangs it was usually in an ill conceived attempt to meet the minimum tread depth, which it does not do.

I nearly fell down a flight that had a 2" overhang but was 7-1/2" nose-to-nose. Going up was not bad.

(sorry to clutter the thread)

Tim
post #2503 of 3008
could you post a few pictures of what the screen looks like when you have those magnetic panels on it to change the aspect ratio? with and with out something being played? Im curious to see how that looks.
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I may have missed it but what did you do on the walls for acoustic treatment. I found where you used denim, did you go all the way to the ceiling or did you stop above ear height? My wife loves how you did all the lower panels with trim, and she has me now using this for the lower 2 feet.
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Originally Posted by Daniel Chaves View Post

could you post a few pictures of what the screen looks like when you have those magnetic panels on it to change the aspect ratio? with and with out something being played? Im curious to see how that looks.

Here ya go Daniel. My panels are Seymour's acoustically transparent ones. If you don't need them to be acoustically transparent, then they use a darker material.







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Originally Posted by allybuck64 View Post

I may have missed it but what did you do on the walls for acoustic treatment. I found where you used denim, did you go all the way to the ceiling or did you stop above ear height? My wife loves how you did all the lower panels with trim, and she has me now using this for the lower 2 feet.

The denim covers the upper walls from about 30" to just below the crown. Basically anywhere you see the Red GOM fabric.

At some point, I plan to do some testing and remove some of the denim. I have some of the larger wall panels divided into two sections so I could remove about half the denim per panel, so my theory was to put denim on the west side of the wall up high, then don't put denim on the east side of the wall up high. So they alternate treatments on each side. That may bring some liveliness to the room.
post #2507 of 3008
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BTW, I just listed my Pansonic PT-AE4000U Projector for sale on the AVS Classifieds if anyone is interested.

I've got upgrade-itus.

Under 200 hours on the original bulb at the moment.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1444736/for-sale-like-new-panasonic-pt-ae4000u-190-hours-on-original-bulb
post #2508 of 3008
What are you getting?
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Originally Posted by mcascio View Post

I've got upgrade-itus.

What's the prescription to cure your illness? Runco or Epson with anamorphic lens? Panny 8000? Dare I say JVC?
post #2510 of 3008
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Originally Posted by mcascio View Post

BTW, I just listed my Pansonic PT-AE4000U Projector for sale on the AVS Classifieds if anyone is interested.

I've got upgrade-itus.

Under 200 hours on the original bulb at the moment.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1444736/for-sale-like-new-panasonic-pt-ae4000u-190-hours-on-original-bulb
It was inevitable smile.gif. Offer stands.
post #2511 of 3008
thanks for posting those photos, I will keep those in mind smile.gif
post #2512 of 3008
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Hey Guys.

I'm leaning towards a Panasonic PT-AE8000U at the moment.

It seems like it would be an easy transition for me and a good improvement over my existing AE4000U.

I know the JVC-RS45U is supposedly better at 2D than the AE8000U but I'm curious to give 3D another try to see if it's gotten any better over the years. I think with the larger screen, it may actually be a lot better than my 65" Panasonic Plasma. Based on reviews, they seem to be pretty positive on the AE8000U and it seems to have a big edge on the JVC-RS45U.

I really didn't look hard at the Epson 5020UB just because it's casing is white? It would seem odd to put a bright white projector in a dark room. Maybe it's just me. smile.gif

Lens Memory is important and I want to stay away from anything that requires an Anamorphic Lens to keep my costs at a minimum.

Am I leaving any other options in this price range out?
post #2513 of 3008
Have you looked at the Sony VPL-HW50ES?
post #2514 of 3008
Not IMHO. There's always Sony's projectors, the VPL-HW30ES and the VPL-HW50ES. But I don't see anywhere in their specifications that they have the lens memory features of the JVC and Panasonic.

I will say that for the width of your screen, the 2400 lumens of the Panasonic 8000 just can't be beat vs. the 1300 lumens of the JVC. You may be able to calibrate to 16 ft. lamberts in 2D on both projectors, but if you are curious to give 3D another try, you can never seemingly get enough brightness as that seems to be the key to making the effect work well.

Just my 2 cents.

EDIT - The Epson folks know that 99.9999% of their projector customers want a black housing, so they intentionally reserved that for the 6020 and offered extra "value" in "free" 3D glasses, extra warranty, extra bulb, etc. for $1000 more than the 5020 despite the internals being exactly the same. Darn marketing people!!
Edited by TMcG - 12/13/12 at 11:05am
post #2515 of 3008
Good point. I was thinking of something in that range that had decent 2D & 3D but forgot about your need for lens memory. Carry on.wink.gif
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Originally Posted by Spaceman View Post

Good point. I was thinking of something in that range that had decent 2D & 3D but forgot about your need for lens memory. Carry on.wink.gif

We were actually writing posts at the same time....I just had to take a work call before I finished my final sentence. I didn't even see your post until my screen updated after your post. I guess great minds think alike.....
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We recently started carrying the Dune HD Media Players and I finally had a chance to test the Dune HD Max out in the theater over the weekend.
I had played with network media players in the past and have always been disappointed.



But I must say I'm really impressed with this one.

The packaging it comes in and solidness of the unit was even impressive.

I only played with the onscreen navigation using the supplied IR remote for setting up the unit since my main objective was to launch movies on it using MainLobby.
After getting it networked and obtaining the IP Address, I had it configured within MLServer in a few minutes and was controlling it from my iPad. I also updated my Harmony remote to support the transport controls. I like the fact that the HD Max has IP control. This provides me with bi-directional control and feedback of the unit. I'll be enhancing my MainLobby Movie Poster LED TV to show some more details while the movie is playing including things like time code, playback status, percentage complete, etc.

One of the challenges with the HTPC has always been that it will only output sound on one channel. The Dune HD Max outputs both sound and video on all available ports. This works out well for me where I'm feeding the Onkyo via HDMI and can get TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio sound, plus feed my D-Box motion platform via Coax or Toslink (which requires 5.1 to sync), plus feed my Russound Whole House Audio system via the stereo outputs. I also feed the whole house component matrix switcher via the Dune HD Max's component video outputs.

The video also looks great and upscales standard DVD's making them watchable even in the theater at 136" wide.

I connected my Watt's Up? Pro to the HD Max and found it's only drawing 14.5 watts while streaming a Blu-ray movie to it. So I'm really impressed with its energy efficiency as well.

For anyone who is tired of dealing with the complexities and ongoing maintenance of an HTPC, the Dune HD Max is a great low price option.
This one's a keeper. smile.gif
Edited by mcascio - 12/17/12 at 12:07pm
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Originally Posted by mcascio View Post

We recently started carrying the Dune HD Media Players and I finally had a chance to test the Dune HD Max out in the theater over the weekend.
I had played with network media players in the past and have always been disappointed.

But I must say I'm really impressed with this one.
The packaging it comes in and solidness of the unit was even impressive.
I only played with the onscreen navigation using the supplied IR remote for setting up the unit since my main objective was to launch movies on it using MainLobby.
After getting it networked and obtaining the IP Address, I had it configured within MLServer in a few minutes and was controlling it from my iPad. I also updated my Harmony remote to support the transport controls. I like the fact that the HD Max has IP control. This provides me with bi-directional control and feedback of the unit. I'll be enhancing my MainLobby Movie Poster LED TV to show some more details while the movie is playing including things like time code, playback status, percentage complete, etc.
One of the challenges with the HTPC has always been that it will only output sound on one channel. The Dune HD Max outputs both sound and video on all available ports. This works out well for me where I'm feeding the Onkyo via HDMI and can get TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio sound, plus feed my D-Box motion platform via Coax or Toslink (which requires 5.1 to sync), plus feed my Russound Whole House Audio system via the stereo outputs. I also feed the whole house component matrix switcher via the Dune HD Max's component video outputs.
The video also looks great and upscales standard DVD's making them watchable even in the theater at 136" wide.
I connected my Watt's Up? Pro to the HD Max and found it's only drawing 14.5 watts while streaming a Blu-ray movie to it. So I'm really impressed with its energy efficiency as well.
For anyone who is tired of dealing with the complexities and ongoing maintenance of an HTPC, the Dune HD Max is a great low price option.
This one's a keeper. smile.gif

they say yo can get gigbit speed but it is experimental, is your house wired for gigabit? and if so i wonder if you would see any improvement when streaming a movie over it as apposed to 10/100
Edited by snickers1 - 12/17/12 at 3:08pm
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Originally Posted by snickers1 View Post

they say yo can get gigbit speed but it is experimental, is your house wired for gigabit? and if so i wonder if you would see any improvement when streaming a movie over it as apposed to 10/100

Yeah I do have a Gigabit network. I'm streaming Blu-ray without any issues. I've had multiple movies streaming to the Dune and HTPC's all at once without issue.
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A couple more tidbits of information on the Dune HD Max...I had an in-depth discussion with one of their company reps a couple of months ago regarding the technical aspects of this piece of equipment. Not to go into boring detail, but there are two main deficiencies to this unit: 1. The 10/100 support vs. full gigabit which may or may not matter based on your network topology and the storage devices feeding the HD Max; and 2. HDMI 1.3a output which means that it does not support 3D. There will be an update to address both of these issues by next summer so I am told, plus a few upgrades (i.e. better DACs, etc.) to really take this device to the next level. I have one of the newer ones earmarked for my rack if / when it is available.
Edited by TMcG - 12/17/12 at 6:26pm
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