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post #841 of 3008
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Originally Posted by BllDo View Post

I don't think I would put MDF right on top of concrete. It, just like drywall, can absorb moisture from the concrete. I'd try and keep if off the ground 1/2" or so.

I don't think it'll be too much of an issue, but you're right and isn't worth the headache if it does swell
post #842 of 3008
Thread Starter 
I did test drive the 6" Sylvania LEDs from Lowe's. They were not nearly as nice as the CREE CR6 from Home Depot.

Larry. They do just put the pad right on the concrete.

I'll elevate the columns a 1/2" off the floor just to be safe.
post #843 of 3008
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I thought I'd take a stab at the columns. Was going fairly well except my jig saw couldn't seem to cut a straight line while cutting out the speaker areas. The blade seemed to have a mind of it's own.

Finally it just died on me. Looks like I'll need to pick up a new one. Any recommendations?

post #844 of 3008
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I also finalized the mouldings I'll be using and their positioning. I thought the areas between the columns were competing to much with the columns. So I went with a more subtle moulding.

These renders will hopefully look very much like the finished product.







post #845 of 3008
gorgeous! Hope you don't mind if i steal a few idea's, starting the demo and rebuild of my theater soon.
post #846 of 3008
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Originally Posted by cdika17 View Post

gorgeous! Hope you don't mind if i steal a few idea's, starting the demo and rebuild of my theater soon.

Thanks. Have at her. I've tried to share as much details in hopes that it will save others time and thought. Good luck with your rebuild.

As a side note. 3/4" MDF 8x4 is heavy when you are loading/unloading by yourself.
post #847 of 3008
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Originally Posted by mcascio View Post

I thought I'd take a stab at the columns. Was going fairly well except my jig saw couldn't seem to cut a straight line while cutting out the speaker areas. The blade seemed to have a mind of it's own.

Finally it just died on me. Looks like I'll need to pick up a new one. Any recommendations?

The Bosch jigsaws and newer blades are unbeatable IMO, unless you buy the Festool which is big bucks.
post #848 of 3008
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Funny you should say that. I ended up ordering the Bosch 1590. It seemed to have gotten good reviews. Hopefully it's delivered by the weekend.
post #849 of 3008
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Originally Posted by mcascio View Post

Funny you should say that. I ended up ordering the Bosch 1590. It seemed to have gotten good reviews. Hopefully it's delivered by the weekend.

I forget the model #, but the old Bosch used to be considered the best jig saw. The new one (same model #) isn't as good as the original but still considered great. I'll end up ordering the same one when the time comes

EDIT: you bought the one I was describing above, nice purchase
post #850 of 3008
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Thanks Larry for confirming. The Bosch should make column construction much faster and more enjoyable.
post #851 of 3008
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Originally Posted by mcascio View Post

Thanks Larry for confirming. The Bosch should make column construction much faster and more enjoyable.

I was very tempted to order it today, I need a new one as mine has crapped out...but I won't be starting the theater for a few months so I can put it on the Christmas wish list
post #852 of 3008
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You'll probably run into some good sales this Christmas/Thanksgiving if you can hold off.
post #853 of 3008
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Originally Posted by BIGmouthinDC View Post

3/4 MDF works fine, I've found that putting on a quick coat of Minwax sanding sealer, then sanding will give a better finish than just priming and painting the MDF, use a dark tinted primer.

I like your design.

BigMouthinDC,

Can I use this on the exposed bare edges of the MDF that have been cut to provide a nice cleaner edge when painted?

Otherwise, I was planning on using drywall compound for the edges.
post #854 of 3008
I'm not Big, but the edge of MDF is the same as the surfaces (unlike plywood), so seems like it would work the same.
post #855 of 3008
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Originally Posted by Brad Horstkotte View Post

I'm not Big, but the edge of MDF is the same as the surfaces (unlike plywood), so seems like it would work the same.

Thanks Brad.


BTW. Home Depot is now carrying 4 inch CREE LED's.
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...atalogId=10053

Very expensive, but only use 9.5 watts and the dim all the way down. The color is perfect as well at 2700k. But if I can work the Energy rebate and 10% off via Discover Card, it becomes tolerable. Since I would still need to buy trim rings.

Only downside is the CREE's are all white. I picked one up to just to inspect it further. The plastic lens snaps out easily. So if you cover the LED lights you could theoretically spray paint the trim any color you like.
post #856 of 3008
The edges of MDF will pick up the sanding sealer like a wick, I've had good luck using three coats. The second can go on by the time you finish the first. Then sand, then putty up with Elmer's wood filler, then sand. repeat as necessary, then prime and paint.

On the Jig saw, I gave up on the cheap ones and bought the Bosch 1590. You will love it. I only wish the blower was a little bit stronger but not a deal killer.
post #857 of 3008
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Originally Posted by Brad Horstkotte View Post

I'm not Big, but the edge of MDF is the same as the surfaces (unlike plywood), so seems like it would work the same.

Must respectfully disagree. At least for the MDF around here (west coast), the interior is much different, is softer and significantly more absorbent.

I've successfully used a thinned version of drywall compound, as you have apparently been planning to do, Mario. Paint or roll it on generously, let dry overnight, and then it sands up nicely and easily the next day. Be sure to ease the edge first if you're going to do that (e.g. chamfer or roundover).

HTH,
Bryan
post #858 of 3008
Wow, this build is INCREDIBLE! Totally Awesome Theater! Thanks for sharing your build, and giving some of us future theater builders something to inspire to!!!
post #859 of 3008
Thread Starter 
Went back and cleaned up my cuts using the Bosch. What a difference!

Thanks for the info on the sanding sealer and process. I'll be giving it a go soon. The edges do look like they will absorb like a sponge.

BigmouthinDC,
Have you tried the thinned drywall compound method? Just curious if one is better/easier than the other. How 'bout you Bryan? Any experience with both methods?

TheaterChad,
Thanks for chiming in. Moral support is always welcome.


Just thought I'd post some plans for the column in case it benefits anyone down the road.
post #860 of 3008
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Originally Posted by mcascio View Post

I thought I'd take a stab at the columns. Was going fairly well except my jig saw couldn't seem to cut a straight line while cutting out the speaker areas. The blade seemed to have a mind of it's own.

For cutting out sections as large as you show in the picture, I would suggest using a circular saw instead of a jig saw. Much easier to get straight lines, and you can plunge it in. Cut close to the corners and finish up the corners with the jigsaw. I seem to remember seeing a video of this on a woodworking site somewhere.
post #861 of 3008
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Originally Posted by BeerParty View Post

For cutting out sections as large as you show in the picture, I would suggest using a circular saw instead of a jig saw. Much easier to get straight lines, and you can plunge it in. Cut close to the corners and finish up the corners with the jigsaw. I seem to remember seeing a video of this on a woodworking site somewhere.

I might give that another shot. My confidence with the circular saw just isn't as high as the jig saw.

I finally got the moulding up on the bar. I decided to save some money on labor and attempt to do it myself and put that savings towards some new tools. I bought a Porter Cable brad nailer (combo kit with compressor). First time ever using one. I felt empowered. I figured I could attempt to do the moulding in the theater myself...so the finish nailer will more than pay for itself.





post #862 of 3008
Mario

Do you have any pictures behind the bar as well as construction specs?
post #863 of 3008
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Originally Posted by Larry M View Post

Mario

Do you have any pictures behind the bar as well as construction specs?

Here you go Larry. Pic's to follow shortly.
post #864 of 3008
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Larry,

Here are some more shots of the bar area:










post #865 of 3008
The white frame with display in it, your home automation control panel?
post #866 of 3008
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Originally Posted by tbraden32 View Post

The white frame with display in it, your home automation control panel?

Yup. After so long I have it go to this page which provides some basic information including Climate for that area, Security status, Voice Mail, Outside Temp and Time/Date.


Also provides a jukebox to visitors:


Driveway sensors trigger a jump to our security camera's page as well and archives a snapshot. Can't imagine living without it!
post #867 of 3008
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Originally Posted by mcascio View Post

Larry,

Here are some more shots of the bar area:











Thank You Mario, that is perfect

I got a little sticker shock when I went to the lumber yard and talked to the kitchen sales rep about a bar for my basement (picture below) and she quoted $3K to $10K



The dimensions are 34" (135* angle) 59" far wall (135* angle) 34"


When I asked for the rough quote, it was based on the trapezoid in the back and wrapping forward and around (sort of like a U shape)
post #868 of 3008
Ok, I officially had to bump my other thread favorite's I've had here at AVS ( sorry guy's ), with a theater and party room basement like you have here, talk about totally Awesome! This is exactly why I'm currently designing my new house to build in the next few years, or to buy one with a similar layout for all the games, and bar, and anything else for a fun room.

If I could ask, where did you get your bar stools? I'm looking for those exact same ones or very close to those for my bar build, many thanks!
Awesome thread!
post #869 of 3008
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Hi Larry,

You might want to see if they can dial in the price range a bit. That's pretty broad. Cabinets are not cheap and if you need moulding to match the specific color like I did, that gets expensive too. Anything with curves, arches or angles seems to add to the cost.

Thanks TheaterChad.
I did spend quite a bit of time planning around all the gaming tables. Especially the shuffle board. It pays though to plan it ahead of time rather than jamming everything in. I was able to move walls to fit everything in and still have space to gather and walk.

I bought the stools online:
http://www.barstools.com/bar-height-...elbarstool.cfm

Buy one initially. Then they send you a coupon code for your next order.
post #870 of 3008
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Originally Posted by mcascio View Post

How 'bout you Bryan? Any experience with both methods?

Mario, I haven't tried sanding sealer, so that may work fine, but I vastly prefer the drywall compound over something like shellac (which, like the sanding sealer, also takes several coats).

I'm not sure how you're planning to manufacture those columns, but I think the best way would really be to miter the corners, so that you end up with the outside surface extending all the way to the corner on all both surfaces. That, however, would require a table saw, and probably a high-quality one at that (ripping something that long at 45 degrees for a perfect fit isn't trivial). If you have a buddy with a workshop, that would probably be best, *but* I'm also confident that you can get good results with the drywall compound, provided that your basic cuts are clean and straight.

Good luck! Wish we were closer so I could lend a hand on the woodworking...

Bryan
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