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Sony DVR/VHS doesn't record with new HD TV

post #1 of 9
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I just bought a new HD Samsung tv (LN32B650) and unfortunately my Sony DVR/VHS combo (RDR-VX530, maybe 2 years old) plays but doesn't record. It doesn't have a HDMI port so I hooked it up via a splitter with RCA cables (I have a Philips DVD that I also have hooked up to the splitter to watch Region 2 DVDs) which worked fine with my 18 year old tv. How can I get it to record?
post #2 of 9
Erm....the tv has nothing to do with the recorder, well... recording. Can you try connecting it to the tv using yellow video, red/white audio cable directly.See if the Sony combo's feed shows up that way.
post #3 of 9
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The way it was hooked up to the HD tv: The coaxial cable from the wall is hooked into the Cable IN port on the cable box. The Video & Audio OUT on the cable box is connected via RCA cable (yellow, white, red) to the Sony VCR/DVR Line IN. The VCR/DVR Line OUT is connected with RCA cable to the splitter under the heading "From VCR". The Philips Region 2 DVD is connected with RCA cable from Video & Audio OUT to the splitter under "From DVD". The HD tv is connected to the cable box with a HDMI cord. The tv is also connected with an RCA cable under AV IN 1 to the splitter under "To tv". There are two other empty ports on the splitter listed " "To VCR" and "From Cable".
Unfortunately, there are no HDMI ports on the Sony or the Philips. I tried switching the Sony VCR/DVR RCA cable going from Line IN to the 2nd AV IN line on the tv (instead of the Video & Audio OUT on the cable box) and tried switching the RCA cable from the Sony Line OUT to the 2nd AV IN line on the tv (instead of the splitter "From VCR" port). I couldn't record a picture either way.
post #4 of 9
first question, im assuming your cable box is an HD box? if so, the box may not output the hdmi and RCA feeds at the same time. thats probably the problem. some cable boxes will only output sd programming through RCA, others will letterbox HD to SD, but yours may not output anything.

also realize that the vcr has to be on whatever input the rca is going into, usually its called LINE1 or LINE2. and it will only record whatever channel the cable box is outputting, of course IF your cable box is outputting

another question unrelated to the recording issue. i was a little confused, but it seems like you have the splitter, with outputs from the vcr and dvd, going into one input on the tv? why not hook them up separatly? most tvs have two rca inputs, from the model you posted i searched and it says you have two rca inputs.
post #5 of 9
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Originally Posted by chrialys View Post

The way it was hooked up to the HD tv:

The coaxial cable from the wall is hooked into the Cable IN port on the cable box.

The Video & Audio OUT on the cable box is connected via RCA cable (yellow, white, red) to the Sony VCR/DVR Line IN.

The VCR/DVR Line OUT is connected with RCA cable to the splitter under the heading "From VCR".

The Philips Region 2 DVD is connected with RCA cable from Video & Audio OUT to the splitter under "From DVD".

The HD tv is connected to the cable box with a HDMI cord.
The tv is also connected with an RCA cable under AV IN 1 to the splitter under "To tv".

There are two other empty ports on the splitter listed " "To VCR" and "From Cable".

Unfortunately, there are no HDMI ports on the Sony or the Philips.
I tried switching the Sony VCR/DVR RCA cable going from Line IN to the 2nd AV IN line on the tv (instead of the Video & Audio OUT on the cable box) and tried switching the RCA cable from the Sony Line OUT to the 2nd AV IN line on the tv (instead of the splitter "From VCR" port). I couldn't record a picture either way.

Wow...I'm really Dazed and Confused..
Let me see if I can sort this out in my head.

-Does this Sony combo unit have a tuner? From your connection description, maybe not, but I have to ask. If not then the cable box, when tuned on, should send it's feed to the Sony recorder's Line Input in order to record.

As sitlet notes, the splitter issue is throwing us off. You've got cable from wall going into the In from ANT to the cable box...but you didn't say if you have a cable wire from the Cable box out to...where?
post #6 of 9
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I traded in my old cable box for a new HD cable box when I got the new HD tv the other day. (I had to call Time Warner because I wasn't getting my HBO On Demand channel and they fixed that but maybe the cable box is the problem with not being able to record). I don't have a tuner but I just got a Bose speaker system with a subwoofer. The coaxial cable from the wall goes into the Cable IN on the cable box. There is no other coaxial port on the new cable box and there are no other coaxial cables used.
My old cable box & old tv setup had 3 coaxial cables: 1- from the wall to cable box IN. 2- From cable OUT on the cable box to VCR/DVR VHF/UHF IN. 3- VCR/DVR VHF/UHF OUT to the tv VHF/UHF. The tv power cord plugged into the cable box. The Video & Audio OUT on the cable box plugged into the splitter "From Cable Box". The splitter plugs were the same except "From Cable Box" RCA wire plugged into the cable box Video & Audio OUT.
post #7 of 9
you didnt answer any of my questions. again, its possible that your cable box cant output hdmi and composite at the same time. you will need to call your cable company to find out if this is the case. if thats not the case, then it should be working. you said you have the composite rca cables going from the output of the cable box to the input of the vcr. if that is correct, and the vcr is on the right input, then it should be working. like you said, you can see the vcr on the tv, so your vcr outputs are fine.

and again, i really dont understand why you are using a splitter. your tv has 2 composite inputs. plug the vcr into one and the dvd into the other. the splitter is just making your setup more confusing.

on a side note, i wouldn't plug your tv into the back of the cable box. most cable boxes dont provide enough power for an hdtv. plug it directly into the wall.
post #8 of 9
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Originally Posted by chrialys View Post

I traded in my old cable box for a new HD cable box when I got the new HD tv the other day.

I don't have a tuner but I just got a Bose speaker system with a subwoofer. The coaxial cable from the wall goes into the Cable IN on the cable box. There is no other coaxial port on the new cable box and there are no other coaxial cables used.

My old cable box & old tv setup had 3 coaxial cables:
1- from the wall to cable box IN.
2- From cable OUT on the cable box to VCR/DVR VHF/UHF IN.
3- VCR/DVR VHF/UHF OUT to the tv VHF/UHF.
The tv power cord plugged into the cable box. The Video & Audio OUT on the cable box plugged into the splitter "From Cable Box". The splitter plugs were the same except "From Cable Box" RCA wire plugged into the cable box Video & Audio OUT.

Alright, I think I understand part of what's going on. You mentioned getting a new Hi Def cable box, with only one silver RF jack in the back for the coax cable from the wall to plug into. Since it's HD, no Out to TV plug for cable pass thru, which means you can't feed the vcr/dvd combo the old way.
The tuner part.. I meant did the Sony recorder have a tuner, that tunes in the channels on it's own. I googled the VX530, and the information posted says it does have an analog tv tuner. So what I would try is
--cable from wall into splitter
--from splitter to Sony recorder, and to HD Cable box. That will allow recording of analog cable channels (if your TWC still transmits them)
--coaxial cable from Sony recorder to the new TV for analog tv signal pass thru.
--yellow video, red/white audio cables from Sony recorder to tv input jacks L2.

--New HD Cable box...hmm (I don't have HD, so this is guesswork here) Depending on how many outputs this new box has...
1) HDMI cable and audio wires from the new box to the Samsung tv...
2) yellow video, red/white audio cabls from new cable box to Sony recorder.
This should allow cable box feed to be sent to the recorder's Line Input, so you can record channels from the HD box on Sony recorder's L1.

All this depends on , as sitlet advises, if your new HD box can output both hdmi and composite at the same time.

Oh and the Phillips dvd player...most HD tvs I've looked at in stores have at least 3 sets of input plugs, you can connect that to the tv directly, rather than thru this splitter-was that supplied by the cable company? The number of input/outputs it has, I don't recall ever seeing one like it in stores.

End result (hopefully)...
HD Cable box feed viewed on tv input L1
Sony recorder feed viewed on tv input L2
Phillips dvd player viewed on tv input L3
post #9 of 9
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The main reason I didn't just remove the splitter (I got it from Radio Shack to use with my old tube tv) was because the 3foot RCA wires didn't reach the tv ports even though the DVD and DVR were right next to the tv, but due to space had to be on the farther side of the tv from its ports.

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--New HD Cable box...hmm (I don't have HD, so this is guesswork here) Depending on how many outputs this new box has...
1) HDMI cable and audio wires from the new box to the Samsung tv...
2) yellow video, red/white audio cabls from new cable box to Sony recorder.
This should allow cable box feed to be sent to the recorder's Line Input, so you can record channels from the HD box on Sony recorder's L1.

Thank you so much for your help! The answer was staring me in the face. I just had to change the Input Select on the DVR to LINE 1 to get the picture to record. (It was on CH3 when I used it with the old tv).

The only problem now is that the playback picture is not as sharp as the tv picture. Would I get a better recording if I use the component wires? If so, I'll get rid of the splitter and plug the DVD and DVR directly into the AV ports with 12 foot component wires. Also, if I play it back on a non-HD tv will the picture be distorted?
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