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post #421 of 840
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I'll sell them to you if you'd like. LOL Heck you can have em if you get em out of my garage

I'm in Northern Indiana and am on my way to pick them up......
post #422 of 840
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Pic update. I got the front stage done




Here is the front wall with some painting done.



Here is the hallway soffit stained and ready for poly



I ran into a snag that I am not sure what to do and would like some advice. I started the riser and wanted two sections. I needed to do this because of my room height and how tall I am. The problem I have is that the upper section and lower section are warped and also the floor is not level. I am not sure how to attach these and not have some sort of problems later on. Here are some pics and you can see the pile of wood shavings from trying to plane the wood. Your advice would be greatly appreciated My ideas were to get some brackets that twist 90degrees to attach the upper and lower section and let me level it out a little. That would allow me to keep any part of the upper and lower section from touching which would eliminate any rubbing sounds.



post #423 of 840
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Bump... Riser help please. I am leaving work early today so that I can hopefully get this finished today since carpet is going in Thursday NO EXCEPTIONS!!! LOL

I am leaving around lunch time to go to pick up what I need for the riser.
post #424 of 840
Adam, if it were me I would do whatever I needed to get the top section of each riser level. That might mean shims (or even full pieces of wood used as shims), brackets, or...gulp...new wood! :shock:

I used these on my shed to help tie the joists to the skids. Now, I didn't have the gaps that you do I just used them in conjunction with toe nailing to attach the two together. They run about $.90 each I think and can be had at HD or Lowes.

post #425 of 840
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That was my idea of a bracket to use. I think if I get the top level and use these along with shims it will do it. I'll double check my lower stage to make sure its level but I didnt have a lot of trouble with the front of the stage. I have roofing felt to go in between the layers but I think I will just liquid nails each contact point to eliminate future movement and noise along with these brackets.

Sound good? I hope so.
post #426 of 840
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Updates on the riser

I was able to notch the boards that were causing me the trouble. Then I used brackets and liquid nails like crazy to hold this thing together.

I was also able to get with bpape and am hiring him for acoustical solutions. He gave me some advice on the riser about cutting holes in the side that will be covered with carpet but help with some bass absorption. I also have conduit run for the electrical plugs in the riser.

Question. I plan to attach the plywood soon as possible and was going to use liquid nails instead on roof felt. I figured the liquid nails would create one large board rather than the felt preventing two boards from rubbing. I know that gg is the best option but I dont have enough of it to do the whole stage.




post #427 of 840
Looks good Adam! Glad you were able to fix the gap. Glad you were also able hook up with Bryan Pape.

I don't know about risers yet, but where are you using liquid nails? I think you can do plywood -> roofing felt -> and another layer of plywood. No need for GG.
post #428 of 840
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Originally Posted by Big Worms View Post

Looks good Adam! Glad you were able to fix the gap. Glad you were also able hook up with Bryan Pape.

I don't know about risers yet, but where are you using liquid nails? I think you can do plywood -> roofing felt -> and another layer of plywood. No need for GG.

I was going to use the liquid nails instead of the felt. If I glued them together I would eliminate the need for the felt and also combine the thicknesses of the two layers into one like you do with the dd and gg. I have read in many places they suggest to use gg in between your riser layers but I have scratched that and thought of replacing that with liquid nails instead. What advantage would the felt have of LN?
post #429 of 840
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I was going to use the liquid nails instead of the felt. If I glued them together I would eliminate the need for the felt and also combine the thicknesses of the two layers into one

I think this will be fine. People use roofing felt between layers of plywood to prevent wood-on-wood squeaking. Gluing the layers together with construction adhesive would accomplish the same purpose.
post #430 of 840
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I think this will be fine. People use roofing felt between layers of plywood to prevent wood-on-wood squeaking. Gluing the layers together with construction adhesive would accomplish the same purpose.

Is there any advantages to using felt instead of the LN?
post #431 of 840
Felt will damp a bit. A bit.
post #432 of 840
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So felt is better than LN in this case?
post #433 of 840
That's what I did eons ago
post #434 of 840
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OK, two layers on the top of the riser and one on the bottom. Trim is all ready for carpet and my hand is so sore from screwing in the plywood and I am beat.

Tomorrow I need to finish the last layer on the lower section of the riser and clean up. I also am going to put another layer on the stage and I need to shim it and add some l brackets to mount it to the concrete.

Carpet on Thursday I will still need to get carpet for the stage and possibly the sides of the riser depending on how much carpet I have left over. The trim really changed the whole feel.
post #435 of 840
Sounds good Adam!
post #436 of 840
Looking forward to see the carpeted room..

I wish I could answer any of the questions you've had, but I'm afraid I'm just a spectator here..
post #437 of 840
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Originally Posted by Greg*go View Post

Looking forward to see the carpeted room..

I wish I could answer any of the questions you've had, but I'm afraid I'm just a spectator here..

I am looking forward to it also. I can't wait
post #438 of 840
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OK, last pic update before carpet. Hopefully.




post #439 of 840
The riser looks good!
post #440 of 840
looking good !!!
post #441 of 840
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Scratch the carpet for today. I stayed up till midnight getting the room ready, bought a tile cutter because what I had didnt work and I didnt have time to get it from my dad, and am just plain tired. The installer called me this morning about an hour before he was supposed to stay up and said that he is not qualified to do such a high end carpet. He said there may only be a handful of people in this area that can install this style of carpet.

Waiting for a call from the carpet seller to find out what is going to happen next.
post #442 of 840
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So here is the list off the top of my head that I still need to do besides the carpet.

Mount projector and build hush box

Install the rope lighting

Build columns including electrical

Build grilles for top of columns to hide speakers

Mount speakers

Finish supply and exhaust fans and dead vent

Fill door cavities and add second layer with green glue - 3 doors

Install door seals

Find door for front of rack

Paint trim

Find rock to finish of fireplace threshold ( The help lost it )

Finish electrical wiring after columns installed

Build access door to crawlspace

Install acoustical treatments (waiting on bpape's analysis)

Program Control4 automation (probably one of the last things)

Install the false wall and screen.



I think thats it but I'm sure that is only half of it. LOL
post #443 of 840
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What's the concensus for the best method to mount the surround speakers? I used to have them mounted to the wall with the wall mount on the back. I could possibly mount them on the top of the columns but I prefer not to. I bought some rubber pad to isolate them better from the wall. Also, with mounting them on the wall what is the best way to keep the room sealed and still mount to the wall?
post #444 of 840
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OK, Carpet update. Apparently this is a woven carpet and you should be master certified installer to install it correctly. I think he said that you have to sew the seams on this carpet. He found another qualified installer and he is scheduled tentatively for Monday. So this weekend I'll get a few of my todos checked off my list.

I finally broke down and ordered my amp for the fronts from Emotiva. I got the XPA-3 for my center and right and left speakers. I was still very hesitant because of their lack of concern for making their wrong right but I didnt find any other amp that fit what I was looking for. That should show up in the next few days.

No replies on my previous questions?
post #445 of 840
Adam,
Will you be using the Denon to power the rest of the speakers? Have you listened to the 4810 in your place yet?
post #446 of 840
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Originally Posted by Greg*go View Post

Adam,
Will you be using the Denon to power the rest of the speakers? Have you listened to the 4810 in your place yet?

Yeah the 4810ci will power the rest. It's still in the box but I used to use the Denon 4806 that I am selling for everything and I was very happy with how it handled all of the speakers and I can't wait to see(hear) the difference a seperate amp will do for the setup
post #447 of 840
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I got the rope lighting in the hallway and finished around the theater. I think I will need clips to keep it in the appropriate place and even. Also got the trim caulked and painted.

I also got the access door to my crawl space done. I ended up using 3 sheets of plywood with gg and the wood staggered to create a better seal. Also up is the projector. I started making the cover to the hush box but think I may wait until I have the projector running as I'm not sure where I will have it open in the front. Did alot of cleanup also.

Anyone have suggestions on where to place my receiver and amp in the rack. Lower or higher. I was thinking higher but since my rack is extendable I was concerned about the weight at the top. If I put it on the bottom I will have some re wiring to do for my home automation and distribution.

Carpet is supposed to be Tuesday except the brown carpet which I will pick the best color once installed.
post #448 of 840
Wow seems like you got a lot done! Nice work.
post #449 of 840
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OK, last pic update before carpet. Hopefully.


LOVE that look! Nice work!
post #450 of 840
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OK, since I needed to get an experienced person to install the carpet correctly he is a one man show and will only install the tack strips and pad and then the carpet on Wednesday.

The carpet gods are laughing at me.
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