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post #751 of 840
5/9/11 at 6:04am
I'm still keeping tabs btw....I've got cold beer on stand by for your AVS get together...
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post #752 of 840
5/9/11 at 6:09am
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I'm still keeping tabs btw....I've got cold beer on stand by for your AVS get together...

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post #753 of 840
5/9/11 at 6:54am
Adam,

I was using only Audyssey for a bit, and then added the 1124. The proper way to use it is to use REW and take room measurements so that you add room specific filters. However, Tom Danley issued some recommended filters based on inherent peaks in the cabinet when measured outdoors. I employed these 5 filters, and it made a marked improvement in mine. It's not a subtle tweak. In a nutshell, the cabinet has nearly a 20db peak in it at around 54hz. Therefore, when you set the channel level using pink noise (or the receiver sets the channel level) it is a skewed measurement. The filters knock those peaks down and when the receiver remeasures the channel level, it should be roughly 10-15db higher. Essentially, the lowest octives of the sub are able to now make more impact.

I also read that if Audyssey is employed after the sub EQ that it is able to do a better job because it's not dealing with such large peaks.

Sorry if you knew all that, but that's the simple understanding I have.

There are many other EQ options that are more desirable to most folks, but I got the 1124 off ebay for $30. I don't feel a need at this time for anything better.

The 1124 is confusing to program, but if you get one, PM me and I can help you through it.
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post #754 of 840
5/9/11 at 7:01am
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Are there any options that dont require rack space. Is the 1124 only 1u? I can probably fit a 1u unit but not more than that. I was unaware of that info and have never run REW. I believe I need a mic to setup on my computer correct?

What you are saying does excite me though
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post #755 of 840
5/9/11 at 11:34am
Adam,

I am getting ready to RackMount all of my equipment in preparation for installing a Control 4 System. A couple questions if you have time.

1. I am going to be using a MA Slim 5 42U. Most of my gear has rack mount ears which I assume just attach to the posts. For your gear that did not have Rack mount ears such as your Direct TV DVR, how did you mount it. If you used shelves do you remeber which brand or model number?

2. You posted that you needed to program your control 4 system after you re-bulit the theatre. I was under the impression that programing the system was a dealer only function. Are there parts of the system that the end user can control?

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Dallas Knox
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post #756 of 840
5/9/11 at 11:39am
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If you dont have rack mount ears you can use rack shelves which is what I used when I didnt have ears. Different shelves work with different racks so I dont want to give you specific model but most shelves are generic and will work with most racks. I have a few shelves that I am going to sell here shortly. You can get them in different heights as well. So 1u,2u,3u....

Control4 has to be programmed by specific people that have licenses to do so and I did have to have someone do it for me unfortunately. The only thing that owners can do is media management.

I hope this answered your questions. Good luck. If your interested in the shelves I have for sale just send me a PM
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post #757 of 840
5/9/11 at 12:19pm
Not sure what "1u" is? The unit is roughly 1" in height...not more than 1.5". It's also not one of those things you use once it's programmed. You could put it somewhere behind the rack and never see it.
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post #758 of 840
5/9/11 at 12:36pm
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If you dont have rack mount ears you can use rack shelves which is what I used when I didnt have ears. Different shelves work with different racks so I dont want to give you specific model but most shelves are generic and will work with most racks. I have a few shelves that I am going to sell here shortly. You can get them in different heights as well. So 1u,2u,3u....

Control4 has to be programmed by specific people that have licenses to do so and I did have to have someone do it for me unfortunately. The only thing that owners can do is media management.

I hope this answered your questions. Good luck. If your interested in the shelves I have for sale just send me a PM
Adam,

I for got to ask you, do you go with the 20 inch or 26 inch (Deep Model) Rack system from MA? Any reason to choose one over the other.

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Dallas Knox
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post #759 of 840
5/9/11 at 2:00pm
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Adam,

I for got to ask you, do you go with the 20 inch or 26 inch (Deep Model) Rack system from MA? Any reason to choose one over the other.

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Dallas Knox

It all depends on your equipment. 20" will suit almost all of the equipment you need. I went to put my server in and it stuck out past the 20" that I have so I relocated it. If you have the space why not go with the deeper although your equipment will be in a bit further than with the 20" from the backside.
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post #760 of 840
5/9/11 at 2:02pm
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Not sure what "1u" is? The unit is roughly 1" in height...not more than 1.5". It's also not one of those things you use once it's programmed. You could put it somewhere behind the rack and never see it.

I was refering to the rack spaces needed. 1u = 1 Unit in the rack. So I could just mount it on the wall in the rack enclosure and not deal with it after it is tuned. I like that idea.
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post #761 of 840
5/13/11 at 3:28pm
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Behringer 1124 ordered and should be here by next wednesday.

I plan on getting some if not all of the under soffit frames and fabric done this weekend

I also talked with my hvac guy about switching things up in my room to get actual ac in the room rather than just exchanging with the rest of the house. If anyone has any suggestions on inline fans pushing about 3-400 cfm but being quite quiet. The inline fan I'm using now is just too noticeable audibly.
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post #762 of 840
5/15/11 at 5:16pm
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Weekend project. Finally get the new Samsung tv and new soundbar installed. Let me know what you think. Since there is such a small trim around the image of the tv it actually looks smaller but its a 55 compared to the old 50 pioneer Kuro. The old soundbar was a Yamaha YSP1000 which I really loved but it is just too deep to look good with the new tv since I wanted the sleeker look.

Front shot of old setup

Side shot showing how much it came out



New front on shot

New side shot showing how thin it is. I had trouble getting the plugs all in such a tight spot and it actually tilts a bit up right now. I will change that in the coming future. The kids were coming home and I had to clean up.
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post #763 of 840
5/16/11 at 6:52am
It's hard to gain perspective from the pic but that must be quite a big fireplace - can't believe that TV is 55" based on the pic! Looks very cool Adam - that thing is flat!
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post #764 of 840
5/16/11 at 7:02am
Looks great! That new TV has a REALLY thin trim around it. AB is right...that fireplace must be pretty large to dwarf a 55" TV.
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post #765 of 840
5/16/11 at 7:12am
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Control4 has to be programmed by specific people that have licenses to do so and I did have to have someone do it for me unfortunately. The only thing that owners can do is media management.

Not entirely true... If you get Composer HE (Home Edition) you can do some programing. The only thing you can't do is add drivers to the system or add new devices.

I've programed several of my dimmer switches to do different things based on double tap and triple taps. Like my kitchen under cabinet light dimmer, I added a double tap program that causes the living room remote to beep. (Good to have after a party when drunk friends misplace the remote)

Composer HE is pretty powerful.
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post #766 of 840
5/16/11 at 7:16am
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like my kitchen under cabinet light dimmer, i added a double tap program that causes the living room remote to beep. (good to have after a party when drunk friends misplace the remote)

its like we live in teh future!
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post #767 of 840
5/16/11 at 7:28am
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I love the tv so far. With the thin trim it makes the tv look smaller. Even my wife said something. Maybe I'll get the 60" coming out. The fireplace is huge. I tried to get a far back pic so you could tell how big it is.

For some reason I cant get my Directv receiver to run audio out of the coax or fiber optic outs to the tv though which is making me extremely angry. It plays via HDMI to the theater but I run Comp to the switcher and tried to add coax audio with no success. I dont have any audio now with the satellite upstairs which is so frustrating. I plan on getting rid of directv anyways and try to use hulu with some other things to save on $106 a month. Of course I found that my DSL is too slow to stream even the slowest signal right now. At times my internet only downloads .8 mbps which makes it stutter so I am going to invest in some faster internet ASAP
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post #768 of 840
5/16/11 at 7:31am
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Wish I would have installed an intercom for my wife to contact me instead of her having to come downstairs to tell me something. She used to call me on my cell but I get even worse reception down there now that I have dd+gg

Buy the new Infinity edge touch screens and the intercom license... Problem solved. (We love ours)
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post #769 of 840
5/16/11 at 7:38am
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Is this a C4 product? Is it wall based?

NM I just looked it up. That does look awesome. My wife would love that. Do you know if you can listen to two rooms at once. We have two young kids and my wife would love to get rid of the baby monitors
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post #770 of 840
5/16/11 at 9:55am
Sorry, you'd have to talk to your local dealer about that... I have no idea.

The TS itself is great, 4 programable buttons along the bottom plus full GUI control. All you need is a CAT5 line to the location and a POE injector.
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post #771 of 840
5/16/11 at 10:32am
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Sorry, you'd have to talk to your local dealer about that... I have no idea.

The TS itself is great, 4 programable buttons along the bottom plus full GUI control. All you need is a CAT5 line to the location and a POE injector.
Whats a POE injector? Their site says it can be wireless or wired and can be powered by AC or ethernet.

Once installed can it be taken off and used seperately like a remote? My wife would love this in the kitchen,theater,master, and kids rooms.

Do you know if the iPad can do the intercom?
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post #772 of 840
5/16/11 at 10:54am
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Whats a POE injector? Their site says it can be wireless or wired and can be powered by AC or ethernet.

Once installed can it be taken off and used seperately like a remote? My wife would love this in the kitchen,theater,master, and kids rooms.

Do you know if the iPad can do the intercom?
POE stands for Power over Ethernet. So a POE injector converts AC power from your rack into a power stream over the CAT5 cable. This eliminates the need for the TS to have a power plug near it.

It does not function when removed from the wall, however it does pull right off the wall if need be.

I don't think the iPad functions as an intercom.

I can take a picture of ours when I get home if you like.
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post #773 of 840
5/16/11 at 11:12am
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I can see them on the website and they look really nice. Do you know if you can listen to two rooms at once? I would like to use them as kid monitors at night time.
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post #774 of 840
5/16/11 at 12:05pm
I don't know, you would need to ask your dealer that question.
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post #775 of 840
5/17/11 at 7:00am
Adam, did the Behringer come in yet? If you get frustrated with it (or should I say when) I'd be happy to get on the phone or webcam with you to help out.
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post #776 of 840
5/17/11 at 7:31am
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Thanks Tony. Still not here yet. I think it is supposed to come today but I have a business trip I am taking so I will be gone for a few days. Hopefully I will make an attempt on Sunday but more than likely it will be next week or weekend.
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post #777 of 840
5/17/11 at 7:49am
I'm finally caught up here on your thread, and I have to say that your theater looks great! I'm not far away (in Chicago), so if you do decide to have a meet I'd love to come and check it out in person.

Congratulations!
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post #778 of 840
5/17/11 at 11:37am
My wireless phones have an intercom feature. It is a Panasonic, one of those types with the one base station and the rest do not directly plug into the wall.
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post #779 of 840
7/11/11 at 4:39pm
So when are we having this AVS get together....
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post #780 of 840
7/11/11 at 4:44pm
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Actually just did a big push this weekend to get some loose ends together. Hopefully I will be fully done within a month and then I will consider a meet.
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