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post #211 of 1447
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

One day people will just have to show up and manufacturers will give the TV's away Amazing $3999. I guess we will wait and see if this happens. If so they will NEVER be in stock, to much demand.

you buy the 3D glasses, get the tv for free
post #212 of 1447
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Originally Posted by DaViD Boulet View Post

The funny thing is that Sherwood was the first receiver to provide DTS decoding in addition to Dolby Digital back in the late 1990s when DVD was the new thing. I worked in AV at the time and we sold Onkyo which stubbornly refused to pay DTS royalties and add DTS decoding to their gear for a good while... was really frustrating as I'd send folks to another store to buy the Sherwood receiver instead!

I had one of those Sherwood receivers at the time and thoroughly enjoyed every DTS disc I could get my hands on
post #213 of 1447
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Originally Posted by davyo View Post

I love my Vizio 551 but the second this 72 inch Vizio comes out I am grabbing one, after I get it, I will wall mount my 55" Vizio in the bathroom.

Cheers
Davyo

LOL! But do u think that 72" will be wall mountable? I wonder what the WxH will be for a 72"er? Got a wall for it but wanna put speakers up on the Side.
post #214 of 1447
For "dhhd89"

Hey "dhhd89" sorry I could not jump into this thread sooner, I just got home.

Anyhow, I read thru your comments and could not agree more, so what I did was private messaged everyone else here and made them to understand your point,,, after they truely understood that 1.3 vs 1.4 3D stuff they ALL agreed they will not be buying this 72" worthless pile of crap of a TV.

Everyone asked me to let you know that they are thankfull to you for talking us all out of getting the 72" Vizio,,,,,, and to think, we almost fell for it, thinking this Vizio would be worth buying.

Anyhow, thanks for stopping by and posting on this thread and making us all aware of the problems this panel holds for all of us.

Everyone that emailed me back is no longer interested in this TV any longer so I guess your work is done here.

Many thanks to you "dhhd89" and take care.

Hey,,, over at the plasma threads they need some help with an 1.3 vs 1.4 issue,,, perhaps you could go over to the plasma thread and lend a hand,, we will miss you.

Thanks again
Cheers
Davyo
post #215 of 1447
Ok,, I think he's gone now,, on with the 72" Vizio disscusion's

Cheers
Davyo
post #216 of 1447
I just pissed myself........Davyo you are too funny
post #217 of 1447
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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post

I just pissed myself........Davyo you are too funny

Thanks Suzook,,, I do try and make with the funny whenever I can.

Besides, I got the feeling if you had to read anymore of his posting's you were going to burst a major blood vesel.

Its all good now,,, he's over on the plasma thread lending a helping hand to some confussed AVS members,,,,,,, I thought it was kinda cool sending him over to the plasma thread,, those plasma owners deserve him.

On a side note,,,, I just got an email from Chris at Cleveland plasma, he scored me a CES badge (I forgot to register this year) so I will be taking my camera directly to the Vizio booth to take some pictures of the new Vizio offerings,,,, I will post them ASAP.
Geeze,, I do hope Vizio has these new panels on display at CES,,, especialy the 72" model that none of us are going to buy because we now know better

Cheers
Davyo
post #218 of 1447
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Originally Posted by davyo View Post

Thanks Suzook,,, I do try and make with the funny whenever I can.

Besides, I got the feeling if you had to read anymore of his posting's you were going to burst a major blood vesel.

Its all good now,,, he's over on the plasma thread lending a helping hand to some confussed AVS members,,,,,,, I thought it was kinda cool sending him over to the plasma thread,, those plasma owners deserve him.

On a side note,,,, I just got an email from Chris at Cleveland plasma, he scored me a CES badge (I forgot to register this year) so I will be taking my camera directly to the Vizio booth to take some pictures of the new Vizio offerings,,,, I will post them ASAP.
Geeze,, I do hope Vizio has these new panels on display at CES,,, especialy the 72" model that none of us are going to buy because we now know better

Cheers
Davyo

Enjoy the show! Plz find out for me the WxH. Yes looking fwd to the pics!
post #219 of 1447
Good news, mitsubishi already has a 3d adapter and we won't need HDMI 1.4 for 3d :-)

http://www.hdtvinfo.eu/news/hdtv-art...gular-tvs.html
post #220 of 1447
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Originally Posted by dhhd89 View Post

looking deeper, looks like i will be skipping the 2010 VIZIO line of 72 inch TV'S and will hope 2011 will provide what these 2010 are lacking listed below

hdmi 1.4, these tvs will have hdmi 1.3 and that will not produce TRUE 3D

No Advanced True Wide Polarizer

no usb 3.0 for thumb drives that could also use 2.0 devices

MASSIVE FAIL



I feel sure the HDMI 1.3 is a Typo, we have 8 Months before these launch, i have no doubt they will be 1.4 (or even 1.5 knowing the way HDMI has been going).

Same with the USB 3.0.. It just hit the shelves.. a USB 3.0 Spec could easily show up in the finalized product...

There is no way humanly possible to call a 72" Set with these Specs for $3,500 a "Massive fail", its nothing but "win" for the price point and the consumer.
post #221 of 1447
Well..

Guess they plan to cover the HDMI 1.4 Spec via the Wireless HDMI interface.

Vizio is using 60GHZ SiBeam Chipsets for the Wireless HDMI Spec, Supporting HDMI 1.4, and even 4K. each SiBeam Chip has 7Gbps bandwidth, with Vizio's Sets using 4 of them for a total of 28Gbps.
post #222 of 1447
Davyo, try and slip two of the 72's under each arm so we can both have one. I am sure being led they will be super light
post #223 of 1447
Think this LCD panel is the same one as the new LG thats just announced. 72inches 480hz LG "INFINIA" premium television series.
post #224 of 1447
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Originally Posted by TheBluePill View Post



I feel sure the HDMI 1.3 is a Typo, we have 8 Months before these launch, i have no doubt they will be 1.4 (or even 1.5 knowing the way HDMI has been going).

Same with the USB 3.0.. It just hit the shelves.. a USB 3.0 Spec could easily show up in the finalized product...

There is no way humanly possible to call a 72" Set with these Specs for $3,500 a "Massive fail", its nothing but "win" for the price point and the consumer.

Well said, rock on bro!
post #225 of 1447
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Originally Posted by dhhd89 View Post


and wait for the PS4

You are telling people to wait until at least 2012 to make a purchase? I think that really shows how helpful your opinions are.
post #226 of 1447
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Originally Posted by PENDRAG0ON View Post

If Vizio starts using the UV2A panels, then Vizio will probably be the brand to buy in 2010.

Are they not using it for sure? The article didn't mention it, so I guess that probably means no.

When this panel is used, it's usually plastered all over the article it's in.
post #227 of 1447
Think UV2A is a sharp exclusive right? I don't think its leaps and bounds better than local dimming led.
post #228 of 1447
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Originally Posted by Frohlich View Post

Good news, mitsubishi already has a 3d adapter and we won't need HDMI 1.4 for 3d :-)

http://www.hdtvinfo.eu/news/hdtv-art...gular-tvs.html

Honestly fellas,

are people not reading the facts that have already been established by the BDA?

yes, you can do "3D" over HDMI 1.3... but it WILL NOT BE FULL 1080p-per-eye 3D... it will be a compromise of some kind as HDMI 1.3 doesn't handle the protocol to flag and preserve two independent video signals in the same wire.

In order for a device to be full "HD3D" you'll need HDMI 1.4.

That's the fact. So c'mon guys... for your own sakes and those of others who are trying to get educated about the new and changing world of HD/3D standards are that are just now appearing... please stop posting stuff that implies that all you need is HDMI 1.3.

Yes, HDMI 1.3 can do a compromised version of 3D. It always could... even now. That's not what real HD 3D is about... HD3D is about true 1080p per eye so you can finally have your cake and eat it too: 1080p HD in 3D with no compromise whatsover.

Myself, I'm hopeful that this 72" beauty will indeed offer HDMI 1.4 and that that the ommission is a typo or that they'll do a running-change in the product during the first generation. Otherwise it will be a fabulous 2D display, but won't be any better at 3D than any other 240Hz set out on the market right now.

Sure, given the price point even as a 2D display it's a bargin. But if you really *want* a full-quality HD3D display, HDMI 1.4 is required.
post #229 of 1447
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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post

Davyo, try and slip two of the 72's under each arm so we can both have one. I am sure being led they will be super light

Not to worry, I already have a plan.

My plan is to hire a Las Vegas prostitute on the last day of the CES show (Sunday) and have the Vegas prostitute seduce the Vizio cargo truck driver, she will take him some seedy motel and slip some GHB into his wine cooler (happen's all the time in Vegas).

With the Vizio truck driver passed out she can undress him and hand off his Vizio truck driver uniform to me, dressed as the Vizio truck driver I will simply wait till the truck is all loaded up and then just drive away.

CHeers
Davyo
post #230 of 1447
From the horses mouth

FULL HD3D ™

"Utilizing SENSIO® 3D technology to deliver 3D content over conventional 2D infrastructure, the new VIZIO XVT Pro Full HD3D TVs display stunning 3D content that the user can view with XpanD active-shutter glasses (sold separately). Unlike other 3D TVs that use passive stereoscopic imaging, VIZIO's Full HD3D TVs can display full 1080p video to each eye by rapidly alternating between the left-eye and right-eye images within the same visual space. The special active-shutter glasses, which communicate with the television over Bluetooth, then transform each lens from opaque to transparent in perfect synchronization with the images displayed on the TV, which allows for delivery of the full frame rate capable by the television for the ultimate 3D HDTV viewing experience."
post #231 of 1447
I like that plan !!!!!!
post #232 of 1447
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Originally Posted by DaViD Boulet View Post

Honestly fellas,

are people not reading the facts that have already been established by the BDA?

yes, you can do "3D" over HDMI 1.3... but it WILL NOT BE FULL 1080p-per-eye 3D... it will be a compromise of some kind as HDMI 1.3 doesn't handle the protocol to flag and preserve two independent video signals in the same wire.

In order for a device to be full "HD3D" you'll need HDMI 1.4.

That's the fact. So c'mon guys... for your own sakes and those of others who are trying to get educated about the new and changing world of HD/3D standards are that are just now appearing... please stop posting stuff that implies that all you need is HDMI 1.3.

Yes, HDMI 1.3 can do a compromised version of 3D. It always could... even now. That's not what real HD 3D is about... HD3D is about true 1080p per eye so you can finally have your cake and eat it too: 1080p HD in 3D with no compromise whatsover.

Myself, I'm hopeful that this 72" beauty will indeed offer HDMI 1.4 and that that the ommission is a typo or that they'll do a running-change in the product during the first generation. Otherwise it will be a fabulous 2D display, but won't be any better at 3D than any other 240Hz set out on the market right now.

Sure, given the price point even as a 2D display it's a bargin. But if you really *want* a full-quality HD3D display, HDMI 1.4 is required.

It was posted in jest (the Mitsubishi solution)..hence the smiley face at the end. It sounded cheesy and that is what makes it funny :-)
post #233 of 1447
Goatse, while I think that should quiet the ah hem, crowd, somehow I still doubt the contest is far from over

post #234 of 1447
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Originally Posted by Goatse View Post

From the horses mouth

FULL HD3D

"Utilizing SENSIO® 3D technology to deliver 3D content over conventional 2D infrastructure, the new VIZIO XVT Pro Full HD3D TVs display stunning 3D content that the user can view with XpanD active-shutter glasses (sold separately). Unlike other 3D TVs that use passive stereoscopic imaging, VIZIO's Full HD3D TVs can display full 1080p video to each eye by rapidly alternating between the left-eye and right-eye images within the same visual space. The special active-shutter glasses, which communicate with the television over Bluetooth, then transform each lens from opaque to transparent in perfect synchronization with the images displayed on the TV, which allows for delivery of the full frame rate capable by the television for the ultimate 3D HDTV viewing experience."

Did DHHD89 approve this post...he isn't going to be happy one bit
post #235 of 1447
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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post

to me, 3d is going to be always what it has been, a GIMMICK.

You know it was for me too, until I saw Avatar. Up, Coraline and some other animated 3D movies were ok, but Avatar just blew me away. After seeing that, and the fact that ESPN & Discovery channel are launching 3D channels in 2011, I'm on board.

I don't think it will meet the tentative August 2010 release date. I've been waiting forever for the XVT552 to come out, and finally throwing in the towel for a 60" Sharp. It's at super low price right now (lower than 552) and will hold me over for at least a few years while all this new stuff comes out. Then I can have a 60" in my bathroom too! lol
post #236 of 1447
From everything I heard, video hd is far superior to film hd. Like the Olympic and soccer demos are incredible from all the reviews.
post #237 of 1447
I wont argue that 3D should continue to gain ground in a movie theater (not your home) environment, but I question how "mainstream" it will ever become in the actual home. Lots of people who fit in the majority category only recently adopted a HD flat panel and are not apt to change anytime soon. Lest we forget our bleeding edge hearts here in AVS are still a minority in some regards. I mean didnt Pioneer, who no doubt had the best PQ plasma in the market just exit because of ecenomics?

say what you will but the mighty dollar rules and if 3d cant get mass adoption (which means Walmart pricing) it will never see full stride. Go back in the history of CES and you can find the floor littered with "next gen" products than never made it mainstream but should have

That's all
post #238 of 1447
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Originally Posted by sharkcohen View Post

I had one of those Sherwood receivers at the time and thoroughly enjoyed every DTS disc I could get my hands on

I still have and use my Sherwood Newcastle R-945 receiver...built like a tank...paid $1000 for it way back when...the price of being an early adopter I guess!
post #239 of 1447
I don't care if it will be mainstream. Niche or mainstream... long as they can make money on it, there will be a market. Lets face it... for tv makers it doesn't cost any extra to have HD. New 3d tvs are cheaper than last years and the prices will continue to trend down.
post #240 of 1447
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Originally Posted by davyo View Post

for "dhhd89"

hey "dhhd89" sorry i could not jump into this thread sooner, i just got home.

Anyhow, i read thru your comments and could not agree more, so what i did was private messaged everyone else here and made them to understand your point,,, after they truely understood that 1.3 vs 1.4 3d stuff they all agreed they will not be buying this 72" worthless pile of crap of a tv.

Everyone asked me to let you know that they are thankfull to you for talking us all out of getting the 72" vizio,,,,,, and to think, we almost fell for it, thinking this vizio would be worth buying.

Anyhow, thanks for stopping by and posting on this thread and making us all aware of the problems this panel holds for all of us.

Everyone that emailed me back is no longer interested in this tv any longer so i guess your work is done here.

Many thanks to you "dhhd89" and take care.

Hey,,, over at the plasma threads they need some help with an 1.3 vs 1.4 issue,,, perhaps you could go over to the plasma thread and lend a hand,, we will miss you.

Thanks again
cheers
davyo

barf
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