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Bond...Jane Bond

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post #152 of 342
http://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/movies/reviews/skyfall-is-a-spy-movie-deluge/article_f54d4824-40ba-564f-869b-a0f4a113b955.html

For those interested, this is a review from my local news site. They rarely give 3 1/2 out of 4.
post #153 of 342
http://events.charlotteobserver.com/reviews/show/14346725-review-skyfall

Another one with 3 1/2 out of 4, from the very capable critic at our local fishwrap. Some very slight spoilers regarding Bond's origins - hint: you've heard this story before.
post #154 of 342
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If the Bond movie is good. I wouldnt care what color he has. Shaft on the other hand is so connected with him being black you cant stay true to character with him being white.
Bond with an heavy indian accent on the other hand...

Bond is no less connected to being a white british man than Shaft is to being black. Bond was created as a white character, Im not sure why he'd be cast as black after all these years aside from some lame attempt at political correctness.
post #155 of 342
Not one to run right out and see a new James Bond movie but I did. Frankly, "Skyfall" is a great movie. Perfect amount of classic Bond kitch with some fun retro hipster relevance. Very entertaining.
post #156 of 342
I'm heading to see the 12:35 matinee, can't wait!
post #157 of 342
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I'm heading to see the 12:35 matinee, can't wait!

I keep hearing more and more great things about this movie over the airwaves. I'm almost thinking this should have been a summer release the way they're talking.
post #158 of 342
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I keep hearing more and more great things about this movie over the airwaves. I'm almost thinking this should have been a summer release the way they're talking.

I'm one of those "take it or leave it" kind of Bond movie people. With that said, I went in not expecting much and came out *dare I say it* overwhelmed. It was really that good. Sure, you can nit-pick it like you can any movie but...damn!
post #159 of 342
I think my biggest nitpick is how gadgets from the old Bond movies ended up with the reboot.
post #160 of 342
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I keep hearing more and more great things about this movie over the airwaves. I'm almost thinking this should have been a summer release the way they're talking.
It does seem like an awkward release date. I would have expected more of a holiday release or something, Wed before Thanksgiving weekend would have been good.
post #161 of 342
Just got back from seeing Skyfall in my neighborhood cineplex's Xd theater and thought it was terrific. To my mind, Skyfall ranks in the top tier of Bond films along with Casino Royale, From Russia With Love, and Goldfinger. As usual, Daniel Craig was terrific as an aging and somewhat depressed 007. Javier Bardem, as the film's principal bad guy, Silva, was wonderful, in a class with Blofeld and Goldfinger. I also loved Bérénice Marlohe as the Eurasian beauty who is Silva's sex slave. I was sorry we didn't get to see more of her. Like Casino Royale before it, Skyfall is dark and kind of sad but still wonderfully exciting and entertaining. 8 Stars out of 10.
post #162 of 342
Just got back from seeing this in XD as well. I really enjoyed it and also found bardem to be excellent. The cinematography really peaked later in the film with the locale. I found the plot a bit vinilla after what I thought was a more multifaceted plot in Casino Royale/QOS but it was still enjoyable. I really enjoyed the Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
homage to the Bond of yesteryear as well as the segway into that familiar territory. It was very sad to see M meet her end but given the dark story and the likely shytstorm she would come back to it was the for the best.
I found the Adele song to be a bit flimsy, seemed lacking in tone and emotion to me. Overall enjoyed this probably more than QOS but not as much as Casino Royale or some of my other favorites however it's not uncommon for a movie to grow on me after I've had a day or so to digest. smile.gif
post #163 of 342
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I found the Adele song to be a bit flimsy, seemed lacking in tone and emotion to me.

At the Warren theaters here in Wichita they never run commercials before the show. Instead they play a mix of movie music, past and present. Lately it has been Bond theme songs and I had forgotten how awful most of them are. smile.gif
post #164 of 342
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I'm one of those "take it or leave it" kind of Bond movie people. With that said, I went in not expecting much and came out *dare I say it* overwhelmed. It was really that good. Sure, you can nit-pick it like you can any movie but...damn!

Saw it yesterday and agree that it was a very good movie. The best thing to happen to Bond was Jason Bourne. The producers had to bring the series back to a reality that hadn't been seen since Connery. The producers haven't totally abandoned the gadgets that have made Bond a successful franchise but they are not over the top anymore. I had quit going to Bond flicks back when Roger Moore was Bond. Craig has brought a tough persona to the roll and the producers have toned down the gadgets. I now look forward to this franchise.
post #165 of 342
I'm looking forward to Skyfall and I agree with billybobg. Having bought the Bond Blu-Rays, going through the movies, I'm finding that especially with the Roger Moore movies (he was "my" Bond growing up), the treatment of the material, dialogue, plot, acting, is so juvenile that it's hardly any deeper than Austin Powers movies (which at least were actually funny - Roger Moore's quips and reactions remind me more of a the kind of humor one would get from a slightly drunk, lecherous uncle at a party).

While I do love some of the Connery Bonds, and some portions of the Moore Bonds as well (especially some of the scores), I appreciate the gravity of the newer Bond films.
post #166 of 342
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While I do love some of the Connery Bonds, and some portions of the Moore Bonds as well (especially some of the scores), I appreciate the gravity of the newer Bond films.

The gravity and relative lack of campiness of the Daniel Craig Bond films have been very appealing to me. I had read all of Ian Flemings James Bond novels that had come out before the first Bond film, Dr. No. (1962), starring Sean Connery, was released. I thought the virile, athletic, Connery was a perfect fit for Fleming's amoral, womanizing Bond. After the over the top silliness of the Roger Moore Bond movies, the new, darker, ones with Craig have been a breath of fresh air.
post #167 of 342
I enjoyed this movie as well as the homages to the Bond of yesteryear. I thought it was brilliantly well done, and definitely brought an air of humanity to the character of Bond that had been absent for some time.

My friends that I went with however were underwhelmed. One of them nearly fell asleep at times, and another felt it was on the whole "meh". I couldn't disagree more.

One thing that did surprise me was that since I have been watching a lot of Archer lately, I found several of the spy cliches to be present in this film, particularly the fighting on top of a train!
post #168 of 342
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One thing that did surprise me was that since I have been watching a lot of Archer lately, I found several of the spy cliches to be present in this film, particularly the fighting on top of a train!

I love 'Archer' - the only animated TV show I've watched in years. It's so delightfully twisted. tongue.gif
post #169 of 342
Movie was damn good. Best Bond movie I've ever seen (started with Goldeneye).

Finally we get a strong bad guy unlike in Casino/Quantum. I only have one small minus: it mirrors the Dark Knight in many ways.
post #170 of 342
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Movie was damn good. Best Bond movie I've ever seen (started with Goldeneye).

So you haven't seen any Bond with Roger Moore or Sean Connery yet ? eek.gif ..You should really watch the older ones. Skyfall is also an homage to 50 years of James Bond in a way. I saw it today and it was one of the best indeed, the various references to what makes 007 who he is from an audience standpoint were delightful. I love Daniel Craig's intensity and screen presence; ever since I saw Casino Royale, his take on the character blew me away. I think every actor gets compared to Sean Connery because he was the first one, but to be honest, Daniel Craig is the best of all imo. That's not to say I don't like the others, but there's something more here than just 007 the super spy. Of course all actors and their portrayal are also a product of their time, but Craig's is the most complex, and so the more interesting as a character. As usual, ymmv wink.gif
post #171 of 342
I kind of liked the movie, mostly because of Javier Bardem but too me they have left the Bond concept.
So while being a high budget action flick I don't "feel" that it's a bond movie.
Meaning, what I associate with Bond is not there anymore.

I don't mind Daniel Craig or that they evolve the concept but too me they have left the concept.
post #172 of 342
I thought Ralph Fiennes was an excellent casting descision. He really nailed his part.
post #173 of 342
Major spoiler below... Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Monique was the first name of 007's mother, and when she died, M looked at him and said "at least I got one thing right". Of course M was not his mother, but I thought this was a very elegant way to end Judi Dench's reign as M... Looking forward to Ralph Fiennes as the new boss now! smile.gif
post #174 of 342
Officially the biggest Bond opening ever at somewhere around $90 million in North America, I saw it yesterday afternoon in a sold-out theater.

Being subjected to months of Skyfall trailers I was over-hyped and psyched for this film so my expectations were perhaps unrealistically high. At close to 2.5 hours it is about the same length as Casino Royale, however for me it is much too long and should have been tightened up considerably. I'll go against the tide of love for this movie and say that I was disappointed and for more than the two reasons that I gave. I am getting so tired of the color drained method favored by directors making movies nowadays. When I got home I watched part of Casino Royale and was wowed by the brightness and color, Skyfall has not displaced this as my favorite Craig/Bond film. After a strong action opening the movie just dragged, I don't mind a period of new character introductions but some scenes just seemed pointless or drawn out. Thinking back on the movie the plot seemed ridiculous and the villain could achieved his aim in a much simpler fashion but of course this is a Bond film and even when Bond has the opportunity to take out the villain he fails to do so. As a Bond film it's okay but nothing special but that's just me. I'll buy it when it comes out on Blu-ray and perhaps additional viewings will soothe my disappointment.

I know that Sam Mendes is the darling of many film enthusiasts but his movies have never struck a responsive chord with me and I think he made some fundamental mistakes with this film.

With Daniel Craig signed for Bond 24 and 25 I am looking forward to something different and better.
post #175 of 342
Seen all of the Bond movies. Instead of getting the "Bond:50" collection set for about $150, I wonder if it's possible to buy just the Connery/Craig movies and save some money? wink.gif
post #176 of 342
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Officially the biggest Bond opening ever at somewhere around $90 million in North America, I saw it yesterday afternoon in a sold-out theater.
Being subjected to months of Skyfall trailers I was over-hyped and psyched for this film so my expectations were perhaps unrealistically high. At close to 2.5 hours it is about the same length as Casino Royale, however for me it is much too long and should have been tightened up considerably. I'll go against the tide of love for this movie and say that I was disappointed and for more than the two reasons that I gave. I am getting so tired of the color drained method favored by directors making movies nowadays. When I got home I watched part of Casino Royale and was wowed by the brightness and color, Skyfall has not displaced this as my favorite Craig/Bond film. After a strong action opening the movie just dragged, I don't mind a period of new character introductions but some scenes just seemed pointless or drawn out. Thinking back on the movie the plot seemed ridiculous and the villain could achieved his aim in a much simpler fashion but of course this is a Bond film and even when Bond has the opportunity to take out the villain he fails to do so. As a Bond film it's okay but nothing special but that's just me. I'll buy it when it comes out on Blu-ray and perhaps additional viewings will soothe my disappointment.
I know that Sam Mendes is the darling of many film enthusiasts but his movies have never struck a responsive chord with me and I think he made some fundamental mistakes with this film.
With Daniel Craig signed for Bond 24 and 25 I am looking forward to something different and better.

too long? what could they have cut out?
the movie had its colorful parts. How about in Shanghai? Its a dark movie so it suppose to be dark.

Of course the villian could have killed everyone easily. But would he get the same satisfaction? Plus hes crazy and he wants to the extend the game while hes having fun.
post #177 of 342
Ok, for those who haven't seen Skyfall yet, I personally thought it was a great movie but it was nothing like what I expected. IMO, I think you could almost call this a reboot style-wise compared to Craigs previous. The flow and tone of Casino Royal and QOS are totally different. Quality of story aside, the look and feel of those two do seem to go together as if it were a series. In terms of my Blu-Ray collection, this one would feel like a who "new series". This isn't to say there are familiar references and such but it's just different. The action is not what is typically found in Hollywood these days. Opening sequence aside, you'd call it somewhat lackluster if you go in expecting "an action flick". This isn't to say there isn't any but it's just different in a less glam way. And not like previous Bond films. This is very much a story driven Bond film and I felt all actors nailed it. Couldn't help but laugh at one well developed arc relative to some very opinionated posters about who could play the next Bond. DIsregard that last sentence. smile.gif IMO, this is a Bond fans Bond. Actor portrayals aside, what decade you grew up in aside, if you're a Bond fan, you're gonna like this movie I think. If you have certain expectations and will compare it to "your Bond" then it's possible to disappoint. I felt this one really dug in deep to Bond's character and I feel it set things up quite well for future films.
post #178 of 342
One question I had was Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Did Bond fake getting shot after hearing M say "Take the shot"? There was never a reference to the wound if so. The only bullet wound reference was when the guy he was chasing shot him and he dug the fragments out of his shoulder.
post #179 of 342
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Originally Posted by Closet Geek View Post

One question I had was Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Did Bond fake getting shot after hearing M say "Take the shot"? There was never a reference to the wound if so. The only bullet wound reference was when the guy he was chasing shot him and he dug the fragments out of his shoulder.

I don't think so, Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I simply assumed this was probably a minor wound so he got healed yet the bullet he took from Patrice was more relevant plot-wise... After all Eve did took the shot and Patrice was the one still standing on the train
post #180 of 342
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I don't think so, Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I simply assumed this was probably a minor wound so he got healed yet the bullet he took from Patrice was more relevant plot-wise... After all Eve did took the shot and Patrice was the one still standing on the train
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Yeah, I guess but it just seems so odd to me to have to make that assumption. I did, after all, feel this was a pretty complete script. And there was such a strong focus on aging, and needing to get out of the game along with M's seeming "lack of confidence" in Bond to get it done on the train, which pissed him off. The assumption I make there is that there is a back story to the aging storyline where he might have been feeling like he was reaching his end point anyway. Then again, he kept giving Eve a hard time about shooting him. And now that I think of it, he said two things to Even after he came back. The first, he whispered something walking through the doorway. Anyone remember? The second, shortly after I think, he referenced that the train was moving in her defense. Do these play into it? And further thinking, Eve never even asked "where did I get you?"
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This is all quite minimal stuff but it's the one thing that sticks out to me.
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