New Casio projectors: LED/Laser, 720p, compact - Page 26

I got my Casio XJ-A230 yesterday. Love everything about it.
Except.....
I can see alot of rainbows when I move my eyes left to right or if I move my head. Hopefully I would get used to it

ok i just crossed 200 hours on this PJ it is bright enough to use in the lowest eco setting, i.e. eco off, my room has large windows with net curtains and cloudy weather outside.

i don't mind the purplish blue, it is dead quiet and saves a lot of desk space, works as advertised.

since i use it a lot 10 hours or more a day, im not sure about the safety of the hybrid light system for extended periods so prefer to use safety eye glasses they come for $10 or less.

can someone comment on the eye fatigue if any when using it for extended periods or do i just have sensitive eyes?

Not sure about using it as a monitor, but my wife uses ours for 10+ hours a day for movie/Tv/gaming use. (Confined to bedrest right now. ) She reports no ill effects whatsoever. However, we use it at 10 feet away from a 90" screen. At less than that, I would consider the lumens to be iris-scorching.

I projected the XJ-A230 at our company's boardroom today and I wanted to show the rainbow effect, but they couldn't see it and neither could I? I even tried moving the projector back and zooming in. I even moved my head left to right rapidly. This is weird. At home I was projecting on a non-smooth light brownish painted wall. Could it be the wall causing me to see rainbows at home?

you need to move your eyes really fast, either left to right or up and down a couple of times quickly.

turning up the input source refresh rate also helps with eyestrain maybe it helps with RBEs too.

i agree it is scorching bright even with ambient light!

probably was dimmer in the board room due to ambient light,

I have this mental picture of a southern preacher slapin you on the forehead sceamin
"YOU BEEN HEEAALLEDD!!!"

Look for high contrast edges at an odd angle. We only have RBE because of the lumen race really. If they were to compete with some CRT derivative instead of LCD there wouldn't be RBE I think.

But now they must sort out lumens first instead of black levels and , and , and

im glad i didnt wait for qumi this pj beats the pants off it.

I passed on these because I heard how they are not for HT. Even tho I will only be watching 720p or low content, like sports, hdtv, and my computer, I didn't want to take the risk. I'm still thinking about one of these or the 500 lumen led projectors. Hard decision

with the amount of usage i have i cant sit in a dark room 24/7 500 lumens doesnt cut it for me. was a very easy decision when i made it. i'm sure u can try out the pjs in real life and that will convince you unless you use the pj for just a bit in the day, then you can sit in the dark.

How do this projector compare to others you had?

fantastic value for money, slimmer sleeker brighter no headaches about bulb life portable usable in daytime less pixelated remote controlled power zoom and focus. cant beat it atm.

I been reading for a couple of months about how these projectors don't do well and the colors are not as great, but will the other led ones perform better? I wont be using it for blu rays anyways, so I guess its not that bad if its not great. The only thing I would care about is sports, I like how sports look on my JVC. It looks like I'm there, how does sports perform for you? I'm sold on led, I just don't want to wait until mid October to November for something new really.

The issues with color are overstated, imo. Many have had the so-called "purplish" blues go away after some use, and others (like me) have never had any issues at all. Even without color management, things look exactly as they should. There are ZERO other LED pjs that will come close to this in performance and value. I wouldn't put a Qumi in a child's room, as it would be an insult to them.

Sports are all broadcast in 720p, so no biggie. (Now that football and [hopefully] basketball are back on, at least there will sports on TV worth watching! ) BDs look absolutely fine on our 90" screen, as does TV, Xbox 360, and PS3 games.

Will these pjs outperform a true HT unit that costs $2,000? No. However, at $700, there isn't much to complain about. I personally can't put a price tag on the fact that I don't have to continually worry about diminishing pq via aging bulbs for 4 entire years (or MORE) or that I won't have to monitor my "usage" via bulbs strikes when I want to turn the unit on or off for shorter periods of viewing/non-viewing time.

Jump off the fence and onto the "greener" lawns that we're all strolling in!

ce4home
http://www.cine4home.com/tests/3-tes...ad-of-uhp.html

I'm almost convinced. Reading early reviews may not tell the truth about this projector. I guess I will fire up my RS40 if a big NFL or NBA game is on. I think I'm sold now with the help of others who owns one of the LED Casios. My next thing is which one to get, one that ends in a or m? Also, I think I will have more luck with one that ends in 5. I have a Da Lite 2.4 screen, so 2000-3000 lumens will not be a big factor. I might go with 2000 lumens if its significantly cheaper. But the more lumens the better.

Hi guys, I've taken an interest in the xj-a230 and was wondering with the projector about 10ft away from screen and having an image of 110" diagonal, I would need to put on the extra zoom. Would this affect have much adverse effects on the picture quality? Thx!

3000 lumens is overkill. you dont need any gain screens on this pj, it might turn out blinding you. LOL

i prefered the xj-a230 cuz of the price and power zoom focus and cuz i wasnt interested in 3d of M series.

5 or 0 doesn't matter, unless you want a feature specific to 5.

hope this helps!

if there is no keystone involved pic will be fine. zooming doesn't disturb the quality much except you need to turn up the brightness depending on how large the pic is.

Last week, I got casio xj-m245 after reading comments on this forum, and with only 20 hours usage I am very happy so far.

My current setup is: no keystone involved, distance tested 3m - 4m, and tried all eco modes. It has excellent focus, power zoom, good colours, very bright projector. I am using it as a second monitor of my entertainment suite, day and night and I love it, its great to have it on while family/friends is around, since it doesn't require total darkness or to be looked after, no lamp management, no stress about the hours spent, text is crisp and easy to read for those who wants to code/read on the projector screen...

As many said here, these projectors needs time for the laser to produce pure blue, the focus is excellent if no keystone is involved, instant turn off/on, very bright, great for usage day and night.

This projector clearly needs at least 100 hours before it settles on colors (my blue is still little bit purplish as many stated, but after 50 hours of usage I can already see big improvement), but since its LED all it takes to be left on the first few weeks on. It is connected to my PC and my laptop with blue ray player through HDMI connection and the rainbow effect is almost non-existent. On the other hand long DVI cables can slow down the data transfer and the rainbow effect is more noticeable. Playing HD movies over the encrypted network is not smooth as direct HDMI data transfer.

Sound wise, when it was sitting on my shelf, it had that mosquito noise in eco1, but for some reason after I put a little book under, that noise was gone, the only noise I can hear now it is the fan in eco 1 and in the highest bright mode. The other eco modes are really quite and to be honest the screen is so bright, I hardly use the brighter modes on this projector, only during the day, but then again the noise gets completely lost in the usual day time home noise.

I haven't tested the 3D on this projector, I am hoping someone more savvy will test it and post some review and best practices since I am a bit dummy in this area and I need extra budget to buy glasses and the conversion software...

In summary a great projector for 24/7 usage as long as it is the right setup. Avoid key stone correction for excellent focus.
Give at least 100 hours for the laser to produce pure blue.
I killed the mosquito noise by simply adding a small book under.
Use quality cable to minimize the Rainbow effect to almost none.

I was thinking to get Qumi or the other upcoming LED projectors, but reading from the forums they are rather dimmer, have problems with the focus, fuzzy text, rainbow effects everywhere. The Casio I got have none of these problems, the only outstanding issue as reported here is waiting for the blue to become pure blue, but I can see it gets improved as I write, so I am not too worried.

Very interested in these Casios. But I'm wondering, in regards to the color issues (esp the blue), to all who hv these pjs... is the colors all proper after the 100hr mark? Or is there people with color issues still? Thx in advance!

I have not seen the way this pj produces blue change-Its largely what you are watching that will make the dark parts of a movie look purple ish or things looking purple.I figure dark parts of movies shot with blue light to get shades of gray suffer,season of the witch comes to mind and lens flare with blue tint can look like a blue laser beam.I dont think the color spectrum of a laser changes over time the ones that I have seen all have the same color spectrum. last time i look my 240 had over 400 hrs and probably has way more(my niece is 0n 14 hrs today playing wow and watching anime) looks the same the day I turned it on.

Does the XJ-A230 and XJ-A240 use the same speed color wheel speed?

The reason I ask is because all the videos I've seen on youtube about the XJ-A240 don't show rainbows, but with the XJ-A230 the few videos all show rainbows.
Could it be just be the camera?

I am still trying to avoid the rainbows with my XJ-A230 by sitting still and not trying to move my eyes, but I can't seem to help it sometimes. Dark scenes in movies with fire in them rainbows seem to be unavoidable.
I was thinking that maybe the paint on my non smooth wall is helping the rainbows appear. I couldn't find anything else to project on.

Turning on all the lights and putting the projector in 'Save' creating a dim image only minimizes the rainbows, but what was strange in boardroom that one day was that the image was kind of bright and I couldn't see any rainbows.

There was a slight difference with the setup in the boardroom though. I was using a different laptop with VGA and not HDMI. but I don't think that would make any difference.

You cant watch vids of a projector and see rainbows(unless the PJ is your viewing device)

I meant the camera 'sees' them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0Fzy0BWFrw

,but I notice it more than the camera while watching it with my eyes and watching my actual projector

looks like some thing the camera is adding

I'm kind of "married" to s-video in my current setup. I know videophiles would be horrified by that, but my apartment is small so I project only 34-68" images (small for SDTV/Tivo, larger for DVD), and I think it looks great. My Tivo, DVD player, and Wii all hook up to my receiver through s-video. The receiver selects the output so I then have a single s-video cable going to the projector (Optoma H27, a 480p DLP). I don't plan on getting any HD sources like HD cable or blueray or anything, so I'd kind of like to keep things like they are. I love my Optoma, but the bulb isn't going to last much longer. I like the idea of these Casios but they don't have s-video inputs. I checked the manuals, and they do show a cable to get composite, but I'd hate to get a new projector and go down in video quality like that.

Any ideas? Would those VGS-to-s-video dongle adapters work? I know these support dongles for component input, so maybe the s-video ones would work too? Or I could spring for an M model (I believe they have s-video input?), but there's not a whole lot of info on them out there yet. And I like the tiny size (and large zoom capability) of the A models.

I have read that ND filters will reduce rainbows by cutting down some of the light output from the projector, but will this work better than using the Casio in Save mode? I have tried putting the projector to Save mode an put the Contrast up to -55. On this setting I barely notice rainbows(but still notice a bit), but then the image is very dim.
Anyone got some other advice to reduce rainbows?
I am hoping that my brain will adjust after a while and not see them anymore.


I believe this one should work: http://www.svideo.com/video2vga.html

I don't think there's really any way to "trick your brain" into not seeing rainbows...at least in the immediate here and now. In fact, one could argue that the more you try to not see them, the more you will. Aside from popping in a gaggle of highly engrossing movies and attempting to simply watch (rather than notice defects) and adapt over time, I don't see much you can do.