or Connect
AVS › AVS Forum › Display Devices › Plasma Flat Panel Displays › Panasonic 2010 Plasma Models
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Panasonic 2010 Plasma Models - Page 2

post #31 of 5848
Quote:
Originally Posted by whosthekingnow View Post

2007= 2.5 2009= 5 2010=4x2.5=10. That's 10 lumen today. When the premiere or pro models are released, I'm not buying these ugly consumer designs. Yes there was a triple lumen prototype last year...

I hear you, too bad we have to wait.

Where is my 75"?
Beaten by Vizio. For shame!

- Rich
post #32 of 5848
Bazzy you have a Kuro!

why are you here lol go enjoy it...

wish i had one.
post #33 of 5848
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bazzy View Post

Hi All,

Well, looks wise, they are hardly any different at all from the 2009 range - almost identical in fact - terribly drab, dull & boring!! Nothing really great in terms of features, functions & options either! It looks like some very incremental improvements indeed overall - lets see how well the second gen of Neo-pdp does!

5,000,000:1 Native Contrast? Not even the King of Marketing Hype Samsung would even dare to state their such a hyper-inflated figure as Native!!! I do not know about others but I am far from impressed with this 2010 range based on the info provided & am well happy I bought my Kuro instead - there's is simply nothing there with Panasonic that remotely interests me so far!


Bazzy!

We do not know if they have the Kuro style single front glass (no extra pane).
I suppose if they are 50,000 to 1 actual that would put them at Kuro levels.

- Rich
post #34 of 5848
Thread Starter 
So ISFccc on the V series
post #35 of 5848
Everything looks intriguing to me. I honestly don't care what the bezel looks like, I just want the picture quality to be spectacular. For the Kuro owners, you already have the goods, no one expects you to get excited.
post #36 of 5848
So, they dropped the Z series?? Or did I miss it? No more super thin plasma in the lineup (but improved and at lower price)? And no option to buy the top of the line without all the 3-D stuff. What a disappointment...
post #37 of 5848
well I am looking forward to seeing them, only cause it will show us what the PF13 panels will be like.
I sold my 500M as I didn't like it as much as my PF11, yeah on paper it was better, but the Panasonic PF11 was so much sharper it put the Kuro to shame. However, those Kuro blacks were something else, so I would like the cleanliness of the of the Panny image with the blacks of the Kuro, and we might get that in 12 months from the commercial range.
post #38 of 5848
Panasonic Develops World's Largest 152-Inch Full HD 3D Plasma Display

http://gizmodo.com/5442012/panasonic...le+Feedfetcher
post #39 of 5848
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichB View Post

We do not know if they have the Kuro style single front glass (no extra pane).
I suppose if they are 50,000 to 1 actual that would put them at Kuro levels.

- Rich

Hi Rich,

I guess we will have to wait & see what transpires but I hope for the sake of plasma, they these sets do raise the bar enough to maintain mainstream acceptance that Plasma is still better at blacks (amongst other things) than the onslaught of LED-LCD's that will hit the news soon!

By the way, is it just me or do the new V Series look like they are devoid of the One Panel Of Glass look of the 2009 sets?


Bazzy!
post #40 of 5848
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/p...-channels-and/

Oh, and you'll obviously need a new setup to view said content, and that's where Panny comes in (again). The outfit unleashed a new range of 3D-capable (thanks, RealD!) Viera plasma HDTVs and Blu-ray 3D players, and all it takes to enjoy mind-melting 3D content in the comfort of your abode is "a stylish and lightweight pair of active-shutter glasses." Oh, joy. The complete line will be fleshed out later this Spring, with screen sizes ranging from 50- to 65-inches. In one of the most brilliant moves of the show, Panny's also including just a single set of 3D glasses with its multi-thousand dollar televisions, which is sure to leave a bitter taste in the mouth of Sir Buyer who has to plop down an extra hundie or two to get specs for the whole family.
post #41 of 5848
I have no doubt that Panasonic new line up will deliver great picture quality, but the design is frumpy and boring.
No idea what kind of people do the design concept for Panasonic, but that's not the way to stabilize market shares for Plasma.
In addition to a more eye appealing design, I would at least have expected a super-thin high-end Plasma, a 2010 Z Version, something like the Pioneer Kuro Extreme Contrast Concept from the CES 2008.
Disappointing line up for someone who wants High End Plasma TV's with gorgeous picture quality and design, who gives a **** for 3D .
post #42 of 5848
Quote:
Originally Posted by StinDaWg View Post

Panasonic Develops World's Largest 152-Inch Full HD 3D Plasma Display

http://gizmodo.com/5442012/panasonic...le+Feedfetcher






What a dick jockey that guy is!!!!!

He looks like he should be modelling for WalMart fashions!!!

You can just see him saying "Hi, my names Craig and I drive a Porsche."
post #43 of 5848
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leetthal View Post

Bazzy you have a Kuro!

why are you here lol go enjoy it...

wish i had one.


because he is a pio fanboy and can not help himself.!
post #44 of 5848
Poor decision limiting 3D to the V if they actually expect it to have any sort of impact. Distribution was garbage on the series last year--BB "Magnolia exclusive", bupkiss at Sears, and Amazon either never carried it directly(?) or had very sporadic availability. I literally wouldn't have known where to buy one (or felt comfortable doing so), even if I expected to pay list price. If any manufacturer has the foresight to put 3D in mid or low range tiers, I think I'm going to be buying a lot of their stock.
post #45 of 5848
Does anyone know if the 3D VT series has low power consumption similar to the NeoPDP panels?
post #46 of 5848
What about prices?

Will these be about the same as when the current models were introduced?
post #47 of 5848
Quote:
Originally Posted by whosthekingnow View Post

In addition, a new panel structure and pre-discharge control technology contribute to realize an increased native infinite contrast level.

Even for me as a non-native speaker, this sentence is a complete nonsense. How can one increase an ifinite level, no matter of what? Infinite is infinite, by definition. Those inflated numbers and marketing rubbish...
post #48 of 5848
I thought this part of the article was interesting...

Quote:


Black tripling technology: Now in just 50 hours of use, the 2010 models now triple in blacks, to give you that smooth, grey look.

THX Ultra Yellow: Here at Panasonic we aim to please our fans, and since you enjoyed our 2009 THX mode so much, for 2010 we're introducing Ultra Yellow, a new technology that gives the fleshtones that bright, spongebob like yellow tone.
post #49 of 5848
Quote:
Originally Posted by gizlaroc View Post

but the Panasonic PF11 was so much sharper it put the Kuro to shame.

That's because the PF11 has a sharpener is isn't completely defeatable. Excellent set though...especially the aesthetics.
post #50 of 5848
What happened to the new Panasonics looking like this in the leaked photos? Even D-Nice said they were 2010 models.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1210818&page=4

post #51 of 5848
Quote:
Originally Posted by GSX View Post

What about prices?

Will these be about the same as when the current models were introduced?

The website says they will be announced 30 days prior to release.
post #52 of 5848
Quote:
Originally Posted by StinDaWg View Post

What happened to the new Panasonics looking like this in the leaked photos? Even D-Nice said they were 2010 models.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1210818&page=4


I'd like to know this myself. I was getting excited that the new models would look like Z1.
post #53 of 5848
That's Z1 and V10 from Panasonic Convention 2009 Amsterdam! Get your facts right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJUpc...ayer_embedded# about 01:00.
post #54 of 5848
So you guys are not impressed with the 2010 Panasonics???? Yes the aesthetics are blah (again), spec'ed contrast ratios are utter BS.... but.... the are better than the 12G Panasonics. I'm looking forward to reviewing these panels.
post #55 of 5848
Quote:
Originally Posted by StinDaWg View Post

What happened to the new Panasonics looking like this in the leaked photos? Even D-Nice said they were 2010 models.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1210818&page=4


That picture show's the G20 series (front bottom?????).
post #56 of 5848
Quote:
Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

That picture show's the G20 series (front bottom).

So Panasonic decided to give only their mid range G20 the better Z1 stylings? That seems kind of odd.

I have one more question, though. Will the 2010 models still be using the dual layer glass or is it single layer?
post #57 of 5848
Thread Starter 
http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs...62010101723000


PANASONIC DEVELOPS SUPER-EFFICIENT PLASMA DISPLAY PANEL WITH QUADRUPLE LUMINANCE EFFICIENCY



New Panel Technology Enables Super Energy-Efficient Operation of Only

95 Watts Panels on Display at 2010 International CES



LAS VEGAS, NV (January 6, 2010) - Panasonic Corporation, a worldwide leader in High Definition technology, today announced the development of new plasma display panels (PDP) that boast quadruple luminance efficiency1) marking a major breakthrough in PDP technology.



The new quadruple luminance efficiency plasma panels are incorporated in all 2010 models of VIERA plasma HDTVs. The panels will also be featured in Panasonic's World's Largest 152-inch Full HD 3D plasma display and VIERA Cast-enabled HDTVs supporting Skype video calls. They will all be displayed at the International Consumer Electronics Show (CES 2010) from January 7 through 10 in Las Vegas, Nevada.



The new quadruple luminance efficiency panel evolved from Panasonic's NeoPDP panel developed in 20082) and NeoPDPeco panel developed in 20093) with twice and triple the brightness of its 2007 models, respectively. The new panels can produce the same screen brightness as 2007 panels using only a fraction of the electric power consumption of those panels three years ago.



The achievement of the revolutionary quadruple luminance efficiency panel involves major advances in many constituent elements of PDP: development of new phosphor materials, super high-speed drive technology and adaptive signal processing technology to reduce power consumption and improvements in all the facets of the panel-illuminating process that includes discharge, illumination and light extraction. These improvements have enabled the astounding progress in luminance efficiency resulting in a 42-inch Full-HD display that consumes a meager 95 watts4)-less than a typical room lamp's 100-watt light bulb.



Furthermore, the new panel has enhanced a key advantage of PDP to the fullest extent, attaining a remarkable 5,000,000:15) contrast ratio. With superb color rendition and subtle gradation of tones, the new panel faithfully reproduces details of high-definition sources from the pure white of virgin snow to the jet black of night.





As Plasma display panels are self-illuminating devices, they offer other well-known advantages such as wide viewing angles and full resolution of moving pictures6). Coupled with these inherent benefits of plasma technology, the new plasma panel has taken PDP's image rendering quality to an even higher level. The new panel delivers high-contrast, full-color, higher brightness, crisp and clear spectacular images - even fast-moving sports scenes - regardless of the viewing angle.



The new display technology will not only enable further enhancement in image quality and energy-savings in 2D flat-panel TVs but also in the new Full HD 3D home theater systems. And vivid visual communications via video conferencing will be truly realistic, with high-quality images on a large-screen display at a scale never imagined before. Bringing about these revolutions in the living room, Panasonic will take TV to a whole new level of entertainment and communication.



Panasonic will further capitalize on the technology acquired through the development of the new super-efficient plasma panel. The energy-saving technology, for example, can be applied to products in other categories. Panasonic will continue to deliver environmentally-friendly products that meet the diverse needs of customers around the world.



In fact further improvements in luminance efficiency of plasma panels is expected in the years ahead, through continual advances in science and related refinements in design, materials and electrical components.7) And both consumers and industry are taking strong interest in this potential given the fundamental performance, durability and quality benefits of plasma. .



In particular, further advances in 4Kx2K (4096x2160 pixels) super high-definition display technology will expand plasma's applications to such displays in the most popular sizes, making plasma capable of fulfilling the most demanding needs of medical professionals, film studios and post-production houses, education, government and businesses of all kinds.



Panasonic will actively promote products using this new panel technology in both consumer and industrial markets, striving to deliver on its promise to create new and exciting television experiences!



Notes



1) Compared with the panel brightness of 2007 Panasonic models at the same level of electrical power.

2) Announced on January 8, 2008.

3) Announced on January 8, 2009.

4) The power consumption of a 42-inch Full-HD model measured according to the IEC standard for moving pictures, which was set by the International Electrotechnical Commission. Using moving picture signals that are prepared by the IEC to represent real broadcasting signals, power consumption is measured for 10 minutes. Hourly energy consumption is estimated by multiplying the 10-minute accumulated power by six.

5) Contrast of dark areas that can be simultaneously displayed on the screen.

6) Moving picture resolution indicates the motion display performance by the number of lines which human eyes can recognize. (Measured by Advanced PDP Development Center Corporation Method). Full moving picture resolution has 1080 lines.

7) Based on the comparison of brightness between Panasonic's PDP and a fluorescent lamp at the same level of electrical power.
post #58 of 5848
Quote:
Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

That picture show's the G20 series (front bottom?????).

Really? The bezel looks a little different than the pictures they have on their website, especially the lip.
post #59 of 5848
Quote:
Originally Posted by StinDaWg View Post

The website says they will be announced 30 days prior to release.

Thanks.

I missed that part.
post #60 of 5848
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leetthal View Post

Exactly!

Seeing that i just got the 12G Panasonics now, i will only upgrade when they have equaled or passed the 9G Kuros.

Quote:
Originally Posted by StinDaWg View Post

Panasonic Develops World's Largest 152-Inch Full HD 3D Plasma Display

http://gizmodo.com/5442012/panasonic...le+Feedfetcher


if that was under 20K i would buy it today.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Plasma Flat Panel Displays
AVS › AVS Forum › Display Devices › Plasma Flat Panel Displays › Panasonic 2010 Plasma Models