Panasonic 2010 Plasma Models - Page 116

Originally Posted by D-Nice

I'm measuring a S2 daily. Changes are happening on this panel.

Originally Posted by zack46

I just turned on my new 42" g25!!! Got it from Electronics Expo in NJ. It is not in stores yet but a small deposit delivered it the next day from their warehouse, also in Nj. I cannot connect wireless usb adapter to the internet. Hardwire ethernet works great and the picture is unreal!!! Any help with connecting the usb adapter? The set doesnt recognize it. Panny is working with me on the issue, but its so new that they need to figure it out. Manufacture date is Feb, 2010.

Originally Posted by heckheck

Exactly my point too. I have the funds to purchase a 58" VT25. I want to buy a VT25 to replace my aging Sony CRT. It has the features I REALLY want (kurolike black, 24P). I could accept some "normal" level of MLL rise over time, but for the super premium that set commands over a G2X, I can't accept a true bug that will have it rising prematurely. I will buy some set this year, but which set depends entirely on how much this bug is still in effect. I think obtaining that information will be really really difficult for some time. How fast a rise, how high? The only way will be to wait for a statistically significant number of others to buy the set and age it and measure it.

If the bug is still there, I'll go cheap and small this year (50" perhaps). What really irks me is that I'm considering the G2X for this holdover purchase. I can't stand the thought that I might actually reward Panasonic by buying a holdover set this year and then coming back in 2011 or 2012 to buy a bigger more expensive set when they've fixed the defect.

-Jim

Originally Posted by spelcheker

The 2009 problem got me to wait for the 2010, but I wasn't going to wait any longer. Life's too short to agonize about every purchasing decision. I wanted a tv, I got a tv. If it sucks, life will go on.

Originally Posted by RandyWalters

Actually i think the Fujistus were. Every one i saw at a store or installer's showroom seemed to buzz a little too loudly

Originally Posted by Jimmy

Me too, that's where I'm at. I need a TV.

I did find this quote in Hi Def:

"Dnice has said that it was by design and therefor could not be fixed. However, I would like to believe that since it is designed in the software and not a hardware issue per se than it can be fixed with some creative programming. As Panasonic has publicly acknowlaged the potential problem I would think that they are sure to be hard at work finding a solution"

The comment is a couple weeks old and dated. Maybe Mr. Nice can comment if it could be a software update that could come to 2009 and just made 2010 sets. If true, maybe the yet to be manufactured sets would have the update?

Originally Posted by greenland

What number of hours are on it, and have you seen more than one elevation of the MLL already?

Originally Posted by unap16

I just wish I had a time machine which would allow me to go one year into future and read up upon D-Nice, Cnet and other ppl or review outlet's "aged" impression on that set so that if everything is all right I could just come back and preorder the set otherwise buy another company's panel.

Originally Posted by heckheck

Seems they also uncovered a pending class action suit against Panasonic for the '09 black level issue. They found this out when they inquired to Panasonic for more information and found that there is now an embargo on such information citing the pending lawsuit.



-Jim

Originally Posted by Jimmy

If anybody is interested, I got a notice from Amazon. The 58" and 65" V10s are back in stock at Amazon. The 58 is $2149. When I had my order in for a 58V10 4 weeks ago my price was $2290 something. This might help give some perspective to the 2010 prices.

Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma

Hopefully you have the only one made that will change. Time will tell I guess

Originally Posted by pottscb

The 58" is back up in price on Amazon...65 is too. This wouldn't seem a very good method for cleaning out existing inventory.

Originally Posted by Neceo

He is looking at an S2 model correct ? I doubt ( unless i am wrong ) they really changed much on the S2 model from the 2009's, and am not suprised to see that it will have the MLL issue.

Originally Posted by D-Nice

I'm not sure why this is so hard to believe, but the 2010 Panasonics will rise in idle luminance just like the 2009 models.

Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma

When it is thought about as a whole, this issue came out as just about the whole Panasonic line was discontinued. No one complained the whole year about this until about 2 months ago, that I know of. I sold about 900 Panasonic plasmas and have gotten "0" complaints. I hope it stays this way too.

--Side note, I did have a guy get his TH-65PZ850U set swapped, as his set was getting darker. The black levels where dropping ( I KID YOU NOT !!!!! )

Originally Posted by D-Nice

You are wrong

I'm not sure why this is so hard to believe, but the 2010 Panasonics will rise in idle luminance just like the 2009 models.

Originally Posted by robbytv

just like?

What is your definition of "just like"?

Originally Posted by NOAMattD

I think most of us have accepted that and are really more concerned with how much they will rise at what point in the panel's life they will stop rising. Oh, and whether or not Panasonic can be pressured into developing and releasing a fix.

Looking forward to seeing some hours and numbers from you later on.

Originally Posted by D-Nice

How much would be around 300%. They will stop rising after a few thousand hours of use.

Originally Posted by D-Nice

2. I've edited my post to reflect your number 2 since some here seem to slice and dice my posting into their own perceptual reality.

Originally Posted by D-Nice

2. I've edited my post to reflect your number 2 since some here seem to slice and dice my posts into their own perceptual reality.

Originally Posted by D-Nice

How much would be around 3x the original value. They will stop rising after a few thousand hours of use.