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post #5611 of 5848
65VT25 and 58VT25 just showed up on the PPP site. Same discount as the 54VT25 and 50VT25. You still can't order them online. I called Panasonic and was told that they'd be available to purchase Mid-July through PPP. Will be availalbe earlier (June) at B&M but if you want the discount you have to wait the extra month or so.
post #5612 of 5848
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Originally Posted by ccc75 View Post

65VT25 and 58VT25 just showed up on the PPP site. Same discount as the 54VT25 and 50VT25. You still can't order them online. I called Panasonic and was told that they'd be available to purchase Mid-July through PPP. Will be availalbe earlier (June) at B&M but if you want the discount you have to wait the extra month or so.

What is a PPP site?
post #5613 of 5848
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Originally Posted by dnewell228 View Post

I recently replaced my 65" Mitsubishi with a 50" G25... this was smaller than I ever expected to settle on, but I have no regrets. Just move your seating a little closer to the TV (if possible) and go for the V25.

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Originally Posted by steverobertson View Post

I just replaced my 58 inch HP with a 65 V10 and so glad I went up in size as the footprint is just about the same and the wife is fine with it as now I can puch it back closer to the wall. I have had it a week and love it. Don't go smaller is what I say

... two opposing opinions. I've often heard get the biggest screen you can afford, but what about quality? Would a 54"V25 provide a more enjoyable, filmlike, and immersive experience than a 65"S2? Is there really a big difference between these two sets in PQ? (I don't care that much about 3D, but I do appreciate and notice PQ)
post #5614 of 5848
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Originally Posted by jnd53 View Post

What is a PPP site?

I think he meant panasonic EPP site.
post #5615 of 5848
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Problem is, I can't decide which way to go -- the 65" S2 or the 54" V25. Maximum size or maximum picture quality? Coming from a 65" set I may be in shock at how much smaller 54" actually is

Here is a site that lets you visualize the differences in screen sizes

http://www.displaywars.com/54-inch-16x9-vs-58-inch-16x9

Plug in whatever sizes you want to compare.

I've found you don't want to be sitting any farther away than 2X the diagonal measurement
post #5616 of 5848
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Originally Posted by daarrid View Post

Here is a site that lets you visualize the differences in screen sizes

http://www.displaywars.com/54-inch-16x9-vs-58-inch-16x9

Plug in whatever sizes you want to compare.

I've found you don't want to be sitting any farther away than 2X the diagonal measurement

Thank you. That tool makes a huge difference in visualizing the size difference. Seems like a no-brainer to go with the 65", assuming that while the 54" V25 may be top-of-the-line in terms of PQ, the 65" S2 is no slouch.
post #5617 of 5848
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Originally Posted by monstosity12 View Post

I think he meant panasonic EPP site.

Correct - The site I use just says Panasonic Purchase Program. I am not a Panasonic employee. They make discounts available to other firms and not just employees but I think employees get even better discounts.
post #5618 of 5848
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Originally Posted by tlh1005 View Post

I ordered a 54G25 the day they were orderable and there was also a $100 price mistake in my favor I took delivery somewhere around the 15th of April.

I'm not sure exactly when the 54G25 first came out, but I'm assuming it was sometime in the middle of February, right? Did you have to wait about a month for it?
I feel so impatient right now, I'm considering canceling my order and paying an extra couple hundred dollars to get it from a real retailer who has it in stock. I hate getting impatient, but the wait is killing me.
post #5619 of 5848
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Originally Posted by acushner View Post

I have read the rumors that the 2011 Panasonic TVs will be better, and if I can wait I will but want to have a game plan ready if the RPTV goes belly up. Thanks!

-Aaron

Well, the 2011 Panasonics will be better, and the 2012 ones will be better than those, and on and on.

If you need a new TV, do your research and buy the one you want, then ignore the new models completely because otherwise you'll drive yourself nuts with woulda, shoulda, coulda.
post #5620 of 5848
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Originally Posted by Savagesweat View Post

I'm not sure exactly when the 54G25 first came out, but I'm assuming it was sometime in the middle of February, right? Did you have to wait about a month for it?
I feel so impatient right now, I'm considering canceling my order and paying an extra couple hundred dollars to get it from a real retailer who has it in stock. I hate getting impatient, but the wait is killing me.

It was mid to late March I think when I ordered, I'd have to find my order confirmation. I ordered the day they were available. Just hold out dude, $200 is worth the wait if it's only a month. I waited 2 months for my V10! Ordered in December 09 and took delivery during the Olympics.
post #5621 of 5848
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Originally Posted by Chad Sexington View Post

If you need a new TV, do your research and buy the one you want, then ignore the new models completely because otherwise you'll drive yourself nuts with woulda, shoulda, coulda.

that's the dilemma...do most people really need a new TV versus just wanting a new TV
post #5622 of 5848
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Originally Posted by daarrid View Post

Here is a site that lets you visualize the differences in screen sizes

http://www.displaywars.com/54-inch-16x9-vs-58-inch-16x9

Plug in whatever sizes you want to compare.

I've found you don't want to be sitting any farther away than 2X the diagonal measurement

That is a nice tool. I used this image to show my wife what it would be like to go from our 50 to a 65. Her response. There isn't anything wrong with the TV we have. She has a point, but just look at that beauty. Who wouldn't want one?

post #5623 of 5848
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Originally Posted by Aliens View Post

That is a nice tool. I used this image to show my wife what it would be like to go from our 50 to a 65. Her response. There isn't anything wrong with the TV we have. She has a point, but just look at that beauty. Who wouldn't want one?


Ha, ha...that's the exact same response I got from my wife too! These women must all belong to the same club! Anyway, that side-by-side pic is the best comparison pic to see for screen size comparisons. Thanks.
post #5624 of 5848
I'm surprised at how small the 50" set looks in comparison with the 65" one...I currently have a 50" Samsung and I always thought it looked fine but now I'm reconsidering
post #5625 of 5848
I have to admit, if you look at the picture, the 50” is not side-by-side to the 65”, so it isn’t a true comparison. But for a quick deception in coning the wife to say, “We gotta have that upgrade in picture size,” it does the job. Just didn’t work for me.
post #5626 of 5848
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Originally Posted by Aliens View Post

I have to admit, if you look at the picture, the 50 is not side-by-side to the 65, so it isn't a true comparison. But for a quick deception in coning the wife to say, We gotta have that upgrade in picture size, it does the job. Just didn't work for me.

Didn't work for me either...Looking at the numbers, the 65"er is roughly 68% larger in screen size. That's a lot!http://www.cavecreations.com/tv2.cgi
post #5627 of 5848
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Originally Posted by Chad Sexington View Post

Well, the 2011 Panasonics will be better, and the 2012 ones will be better than those, and on and on.

If you need a new TV, do your research and buy the one you want, then ignore the new models completely because otherwise you'll drive yourself nuts with woulda, shoulda, coulda.

Most of the time I would agree, but in 2011 there might be a large technological leap for Panasonic compared to previous years. Most advances tend to be mild improvements over the years, but next year there may be a large step forward.
post #5628 of 5848
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Originally Posted by pcdo View Post

Most of the time I would agree, but in 2011 there might be a large technological leap for Panasonic compared to previous years. Most advances tend to be mild improvements over the years, but next year there may be a large step forward.

Maybe for the models below the VT25s. I don't believe Panasonic will make a large leap forward on the high end next year. Maybe 2012 we will see something different, but still not a technological leap.
post #5629 of 5848
The TC-P65VT25 and the 58 are on the Panasonic EPP site now - pricing seems to be in line with where the V10s were - still show 'Not available direct from Panasonic' for all VT models.
post #5630 of 5848
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Originally Posted by GreatGrady View Post

The TC-P65VT25 and the 58 are on the Panasonic EPP site now - pricing seems to be in line with where the V10s were - still show 'Not available direct from Panasonic' for all VT models.

Could you provide a link for that site? Next, do you have to be an employee of Panasonic to take advantage of their pricing, and if so is there a "workaround" for other people to be able to use it?
post #5631 of 5848
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Originally Posted by Jimmy View Post

Maybe for the models below the VT25s. I don't believe Panasonic will make a large leap forward on the high end next year. Maybe 2012 we will see something different, but still not a technological leap.

I disagree. Supposedly, Panny will fully implement Kuro technology in 2011 models, which should solve the rising black level issue (not to mention better blacks when new). This should be a major leap forward for the VT25s as well as the rest of their line-up.
post #5632 of 5848
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Originally Posted by Jimmy View Post

Maybe for the models below the VT25s. I don't believe Panasonic will make a large leap forward on the high end next year. Maybe 2012 we will see something different, but still not a technological leap.

There's ALWAYS something better a year later, KURO or no KURO. This is a nobrainer.
The question is: Do you want to watch TV now or next year? Or even in 2012?

If you keep waiting for the next best thing you can't ever actually enjoy it. I could have waited another year with my old 32'' Samsung LCD but I choose to enjoy a VT25 today. So far I'm not regretting it at all.
post #5633 of 5848
Hey all! Sorry to be a newb, but could someone tell me the difference between the 42 inch 720 X1 plasma and the C2 plasma? I currently have a X1 and I love it, but now all the local stores sell C2s. I'm wondering if they are better or worse or? Thanks for the help in clearing this up for me before I buy!
post #5634 of 5848
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Originally Posted by thenewrick View Post

Hey all! Sorry to be a newb, but could someone tell me the difference between the 42 inch 720 X1 plasma and the C2 plasma? I currently have a X1 and I love it, but now all the local stores sell C2s. I'm wondering if they are better or worse or? Thanks for the help in clearing this up for me before I buy!

I suspect your X1 will be better mainly due to it's anti- reflective filter. Typically X series are better than C series so I'd say stick with what you have.
post #5635 of 5848
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Originally Posted by thenewrick View Post

Hey all! Sorry to be a newb, but could someone tell me the difference between the 42 inch 720 X1 plasma and the C2 plasma? I currently have a X1 and I love it, but now all the local stores sell C2s. I'm wondering if they are better or worse or? Thanks for the help in clearing this up for me before I buy!

The biggest difference is that the C2 does not have any sort of Anti-Reflective filter like your X1 does so it's very reflective compared to your X1. The X24 (Costco and maybe Sam's Club) is the replacement for the X1, and seems to basically a C2 but with an Anti-Reflective Filter added. Last year the C1 seemed to have more pop than the X1 and we attributed that to the fact that the C1 was basically an X1 with no AR Filter, so the same should hold true between the C2 and S2.

The C2 and X24 have more shades of gradation than the X1

The C2 and X24 have one less HDMI input than the X1

The C2 and X24 should have better contrast than the X1


I've been entrusted with picking a new TV for my ill sister-in-law and i will be getting her a 50X24 at Costco primarily because it has the AR Filter. She's watching a lot of TV during the day, and she has to keep her blinds closed to see her current TV and it's depressing, and i'm positive that the X24 will work great with her blinds wide open.

http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs...392531|329233|
post #5636 of 5848
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Originally Posted by cajieboy View Post

Ha, ha...that's the exact same response I got from my wife too! These women must all belong to the same club! Anyway, that side-by-side pic is the best comparison pic to see for screen size comparisons. Thanks.

And put a " 65 next to a 85... and a " 85 next to a 103...and a " 103 next to a 150 ...and ...

That's female logic! You(ya'll) have a TV, she needs a new pair of shoes...dress...jewelry...
dinette...cook top...kitchen remodel...
post #5637 of 5848
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Originally Posted by pcdo View Post

Most of the time I would agree, but in 2011 there might be a large technological leap for Panasonic compared to previous years. Most advances tend to be mild improvements over the years, but next year there may be a large step forward.

Again, the key words are "may be". Who knows what issues or problems any future model will have. Maybe, finally, they'll make the perfect TV screen in every way. But most likely not. Something will be wrong with it, and something will irritate customers. So why delay purchasing in hopes of the perfect screen. Why not purchase now when you know what you're getting. It's like not buying any light bulbs in hopes someone someday will make the perfect light bulb that will last 10 years straight. So instead we purchase what's out now and deal with the short life and enjoy the light.
post #5638 of 5848
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Originally Posted by Skram0 View Post

Again, the key words are "may be". Who knows what issues or problems any future model will have. Maybe, finally, they'll make the perfect TV screen in every way. But most likely not. Something will be wrong with it, and something will irritate customers. So why delay purchasing in hopes of the perfect screen. Why not purchase now when you know what you're getting. It's like not buying any light bulbs in hopes someone someday will make the perfect light bulb that will last 10 years straight. So instead we purchase what's out now and deal with the short life and enjoy the light.

If someone wants Kuro blacks, he can't get that this year.
post #5639 of 5848
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Originally Posted by Skram0 View Post

Again, the key words are "may be". Who knows what issues or problems any future model will have. Maybe, finally, they'll make the perfect TV screen in every way. But most likely not. Something will be wrong with it, and something will irritate customers. So why delay purchasing in hopes of the perfect screen. Why not purchase now when you know what you're getting. It's like not buying any light bulbs in hopes someone someday will make the perfect light bulb that will last 10 years straight. So instead we purchase what's out now and deal with the short life and enjoy the light.

Exactly, if you need and/or want to upgrade your TV, no reason to wait. With the exception of the no-longer-in-production Pioneer Elite 9G, the newer models are the very best and latest video tech that deliver even better PQ over all their previous models. Of course some are better than others. Perfect? No, but there has never been a perfect TV made. Improvements are always going to occur as this is the nature of video tech.
post #5640 of 5848
why do all the high end plasmas have glossy/mirror screens for?...can't they make one with a matte screen?
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