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post #31 of 745
I heard April is when it's suppose to come out. But since we are all waiting! Sooner the better. I too anticipate the price to be a bit more then the 201 but not by much.


As for the 201 going past 90? Well, you can. I suppose tho. Remember there is no zoom so makes it more of a challenge.
post #32 of 745
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Originally Posted by Kamus View Post

Won't change the rainbows, which in my experience are unbearable, won't change the video processor quality, won't change the contrast either.

So, like i said, if you already own a 201 i don't see much point in upgrading to this. If you don't, then sure, waiting for this one seems perfectly reasonable.

Kinda funny that you seem to be the ONLY one that sees them. I would think your unit is not syncing the leds correctly. I would suspect your unit is a faulty one and maybe you should try for another or get it fixed?

I've owned a few LCD and and a few DLP projectors... But all of my DLP units have fast color wheels so I have yet to see them. But if I did I would be sending the projector back. I doubt I would enjoy watching a movie with rainbows.
post #33 of 745
hi there, does anyony know of any other cheap led projectors?
post #34 of 745
How much is the MSRP?
post #35 of 745
led ones?
post #36 of 745
ohhh, just discovered this when I was about to order 201... hoping that the wait is not much longer...

Also, I noticed someone mentioned Samsung SP-F10M, is there any thread about this?
post #37 of 745
Hoping the Casio 200 and 300 lumens pocket projectors are all LED, instead of LED + LASER with Phosphor wheel combo, but these are an even longer wait from what I was told by Casio Europe. The new LED/LASER 2000 lumens (3000 next) XGA and 1280X800 units are fairly bright indeed, but limited in contrast (1800:1 on/off according to spec.) and from what I have seen undersaturated and pale looking, so great for presenting spreadsheets and powerpoints, but not too interesting for video.
post #38 of 745
does any one the release date or have they contacted lg, because in Australia they dont sell it??
post #39 of 745
It seems the release date might be April, but I bet they wont be out until Summer, someone here contacted lg about the hs201 in Canada and lg said they have no plans to distribute it here. It will probably will be the same for the hx300. Its probably just as unlikley that it will be out in Australia
post #40 of 745
Well so much for being around the HS200 price. £769.99 I think that comes out to about $1200 U.S. I'm not sure how reliable the sight is, but it's the only price I've been able to come up with. Anybody wanna confirm this?

http://projectorshop24.co.uk/lg-proj...ampaign=kelkoo
post #41 of 745
http://www.beamershop24.net/lg-beame..._lg-hx300.html

770 which is about 1050 usd. for 720p i would love to pay, but for xga it is a little bit high i think.
post #42 of 745
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Originally Posted by travis_bickle View Post

http://www.beamershop24.net/lg-beame..._lg-hx300.html

770 which is about 1050 usd. for 720p i would love to pay, but for xga it is a little bit high i think.

My bad on the price. I agree with you on the price though. I think 800 USD would have been a little more agreeable for XGA.
post #43 of 745
Don't forget European consumer prices include VAT, in the UK the rate is 17.5%. The German 770,- example includes Mehrwertsteuer of 19%. And even with the low value of the USD compared to the Euro, we generally still see an 1 to 1 MSRP/Streetpricing from USD to Euro. For instance the HS201 costs 499,- in both Euro and USD.
post #44 of 745
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Originally Posted by donaldk View Post

Don't forget European consumer prices include VAT, in the UK the rate is 17.5%. The German 770,- example includes Mehrwertsteuer of 19%. And even with the low value of the USD compared to the Euro, we generally still see an 1 to 1 MSRP/Streetpricing from USD to Euro. For instance the HS201 costs 499,- in both Euro and USD.

Well, I'm intrigued all over again.
post #45 of 745
this thing is not worth almost 800 bucks, it might be worth 550-600.
post #46 of 745
So the thing would be worth two lamps tops...

Notice how the lifetime dropped from the HS200's 30K hours to the HX300's 20K hours.

The Casio XJ-A130 currently sells for 900,- euro's.
post #47 of 745
I kind of realized something, right now I have my HS201 and I only use it on eco mode or normal mode when I use a big screen, and this is excellent even with ambient lighting. I think most people who own it dont use it in presentation mode which is the brightest, So really we dont even use the full 200 lumens of the projector only like ~160, so at least for me the extra price isnt worth it for just a little bit more resolution, unless this could do a bigger screen also? Ill probably wait for the next one after the hx300 in the meantime maybe ill get a used 1080p projector until an LED one with better resolution comes out.
post #48 of 745
It's nice to see it showing up in stock already. Can't wait for it to hit US. Hopefully below $800 price point.

As far as HS201, while brightness is good, I am not satisfied with the resolution. XGA is something I can live with.
post #49 of 745
would it be worth it buying a 3D projector such as the Acer H5360, over the lg hs201 or hx300? i just dont know what to get? any help with outlining pros and cons will provide a great insight to a newbie like me. thanks
post #50 of 745
It is speeced at 100" diagonal instead of 80" for the 200, in the links posted above, so yes it allows for a bigger screen.
post #51 of 745
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Originally Posted by r2zza View Post

would it be worth it buying a 3D projector such as the Acer H5360, over the lg hs201 or hx300? i just dont know what to get? any help with outlining pros and cons will provide a great insight to a newbie like me. thanks

I'm no expert, but I would really wait until the technology matures. I think they are still playing around with 2 or 3 different ways of 3D at home, I'd wait until a standard arises.
post #52 of 745
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Originally Posted by Roger Lococco View Post

this thing is not worth almost 800 bucks, it might be worth 550-600.


$299 tops...
post #53 of 745
$99 my final offer

Seriously, I would pick LED projector for $800 over a bulb projector for $600 for two obvious reasons:

-Long bulb life
-Less noise
post #54 of 745
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Originally Posted by klas View Post

$99 my final offer

Seriously, I would pick LED projector for $800 over a bulb projector for $600 for two obvious reasons:

-Long bulb life
-Less noise


-more vivid colors
-better contrast
-more shadow detail
-deeper blacks
-no color wheel, no rainbows, no color wheel whine
post #55 of 745
Yeah, I'm also hoping the unit will be around the 600 dollar mark. $800 for XGA...not worth it IMHO. 720p though...I would probably pay even up to a 1k$, but the noise level would have to be acceprible.

Speaking of rainbows...
I have an HS201 and I see them qite often, especially in lower quality videos and videos with a lot of contrast. As soon as the there are vivid colors present I relly don't notice it.

Strangely enough approximetely 5-7 people that have "evaluated" the unit admit that they notice the rainbow effect as well. I and my roommate got used to it so its not a big deal, but then again it does exist.

Just out of curriosity I tested if I would see the reinbow eeffect on a conventional projector (Optime..can't rememmber the model, 720p) and sure enough...I did see them. I guss I'm just one of the few unlucky ones...but then why did ther est of my budies see the rainbow effect?

Long soty short-XGA is not worth paying $800. It is quite obvious that they are just pushing the existing LED chip to its limits, thus the heat and noise levels will increase. Life of the projector also will drop...it's basically the same HS201 supercharged.

Back to waiting I guess....
post #56 of 745
Your 201 isn't just faulty?

The widescreen version of these Platlight LEDs (PT120 vs. PT-121) are being used in the various 1080P LED projectors offering from 400 upto 600-700 lumens out of the projector, with the manufacturers claiming a lifetime varying between 30K and 100K hours. One of them is using watercooling on the LED backplane, but don't think the Delta Engine Units do.
post #57 of 745
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Originally Posted by donaldk View Post

Your 201 isn't just faulty?

The widescreen version of these Platlight LEDs (PT120 vs. PT-121) are being used in the various 1080P LED projectors offering from 400 upto 600-700 lumens out of the projector, with the manufacturers claiming a lifetime varying between 30K and 100K hours. One of them is using watercooling on the LED backplane, but don't think the Delta Engine Units do.

There are several different Phlatlight chipsets. The HS201 uses the PT-54, as will the HX300. The rated brightness has increased for the HX300, indicating they are doing something different with its LEDs...overdriving, whatever.

I wish LEDs eliminated rainbows, unfortunately it seems to depend on how the PJ Manufacturer drives the LEDs. The Samsung P400, for example, also uses PT-54 and there have been comments that rainbows were visible with this unit. I doubt there is anything wrong with alexandrs35's HS201, as other posters have commented on seeing rainbows on the HS201. It will be interesting to see if the upcoming Samsung SP-F10M (4:3 PT-121) suffers any rainbow artifacts.
post #58 of 745
I find it interesting that one of the links posted above with the specifications for the HX300G states 20.000 hours estimated life time for the LEDs and the other link states 30.000 hours of use, and that estimate is printed twice in the spec sheet...
Now that it has been confirmed that the HX300G can be used with screens up to 100" diagonal, just as i imagined, i can proceed with my plans to select a larger screen than the 76" diagonal that i am currently using, and it's going to be a high-gain screen again as i became enamored of that image "pop" that these screens provide, even at the cost of an elevated black level.
BTW, insofar as rainbows and the HS-201 are concerned, i now realize that i can see them often times, but that depends a lot on the onscreen image - especially during low contrast scenes that have vertical/diagonal bright lines - but i also noticed something else that i never seen mentioned before : sometimes i use contact lenses and sometimes eyeglasses when watching TV and i definitely can see a lot more rainbows when i have my eyeglasses on, and very/very few rainbows while wearing contact lenses !
I imagine that has to do with that extra "layer" of optical material located approximately 1 inch in front of the eyes (the eyeglasses) and some unexpected visual interaction, versus contact lenses, which sit right on the eyes ?
I wonder if TI ever studied interaction differences between the use of DMD chips with viewers that use eyeglasses versus contact lenses, as well as viewers that do not use either ?
post #59 of 745
Will this bad boy be able to do 16:9?
post #60 of 745
MCaugusto, I did see the Screen Elite High gain screen at ISE last month, the product marketing guy told me it was specced at gain 7, effectively it might be a bit less, but it did provide a nice pop, compared to the white screen that was rolling up and down in front of it.
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