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post #11971 of 15247
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Originally Posted by BeeMan458 View Post

I received this PM this morning:

"Hi BeeMan,

I spoke with Brian and he confirmed to me that we have only ten FV15HPs left, 5 are Black Oak and 5 are Matte Black."

I put a reserve on two "Black Oak" FV15HPs. Another forum member has ordered an addition FV15HP. The WWW makes the world a small place indeed.

As encouragement, expectedly, they'll be getting more and yes, I definitely want those two "Black Oak" FV15HPs.

(you know Aerosmith is getting old when they're referred to as "Old School" rock-n-roll)

-


I was told there are no fv15hps in black matte???? I even asked as this is initially what i wanted . that makes me a little mad because everything else I haveis black matte. Not happy about that at all
post #11972 of 15247
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Originally Posted by JimWilson View Post

Center channel? Who mentioned anything about a center channel? wink.gif

Speaking of center channel... one thing you might want to look into is one of those shelves that sit on top of the TV. They're designed to hold a center. It may be worth considering.

Well looking back, I certainly don't see that you referenced a center anywhere. I could have sworn someone commented on how low the center channel was...I guess that is what I get for replying on my phone.

Thanks for the link to the center channel shelf. The only problem, is that my center weighs almost 40 lbs., so it probably won't work. I have been racking my brain trying to find the best solution for mounting the center that will look good when the TV is wall mounted. I am thinking about two wrought iron shelf brackets (above or below?) to support the weight/size of the Aperion Verus Grand.
post #11973 of 15247
I am still having a little confusion over my F25 settings, particularly the Limiter Function. Right now I have it set to "OFF" (with Auto On for power) and I am using 28Hz/Low with Rumble Filter set to On for maximum SPL (per Rythmik Quick Guide). Will setting the Limiter Function to "ON" have any effect whatsoever? Will I need to re-run my room EQ software if I change the setting?

Thanks!
post #11974 of 15247
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Originally Posted by hkp2k View Post

Well looking back, I certainly don't see that you referenced a center anywhere. I could have sworn someone commented on how low the center channel was...I guess that is what I get for replying on my phone.

Thanks for the link to the center channel shelf. The only problem, is that my center weighs almost 40 lbs., so it probably won't work. I have been racking my brain trying to find the best solution for mounting the center that will look good when the TV is wall mounted. I am thinking about two wrought iron shelf brackets (above or below?) to support the weight/size of the Aperion Verus Grand.

You're not going nuts - I'm playing with you. tongue.gif I did originally have something in my post about your center, which I thought was in your cabinet below the TV. I then looked a bit close and saw that it was your AVR instead, so I edited my post. You must have gotten the first version.

I was going to say get two shelves, because a pair can handle the weight, but 40 lbs is a lot to drop on top of the TV. Maybe someone else has a better option for you, but I don't really have anything else. Sorry.
post #11975 of 15247
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You're not going nuts - I'm playing with you. tongue.gif

And I thought I was the only ham around here wink.gif
post #11976 of 15247
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Originally Posted by steve nn View Post

And I thought I was the only ham around here wink.gif


Ham or pork chop?...lol tongue.gif
post #11977 of 15247
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Originally Posted by jbrown15 View Post

Ham or pork chop?...lol tongue.gif

I dunno? People do call me pork chop for some reason?? rolleyes.giftongue.gifbiggrin.gif
post #11978 of 15247
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I dunno? People do call me pork chop for some reason?? rolleyes.giftongue.gifbiggrin.gif

Nice avatar. How do they sound?
post #11979 of 15247
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Originally Posted by Ozzie Isaac View Post

Nice avatar. How do they sound?

Sort of beefy is how I would best equate it, and the sound makes me feel kind of bullish! Think I'll kick some a...

post #11980 of 15247
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Originally Posted by BigCoolJesus View Post

I am still having a little confusion over my F25 settings, particularly the Limiter Function. Right now I have it set to "OFF" (with Auto On for power) and I am using 28Hz/Low with Rumble Filter set to On for maximum SPL (per Rythmik Quick Guide). Will setting the Limiter Function to "ON" have any effect whatsoever? Will I need to re-run my room EQ software if I change the setting?

Thanks!

The limiter should be on, unless you're intent on pushing it to the limit and risking blowing the sub. It's kind of like traction control.

It shouldn't affect EQ.
post #11981 of 15247
On the topic of black oak vs matte, the black oak pattern is pretty subtle. If you have existing matte stuff, you probably wouldn't notice the difference from five feet away.
post #11982 of 15247
^^ YA know ur actually right. Plus its a quality black oak laminent looks very real with some depth.

Its just the principle when u spend 2500 dollars on subs its nice to get what ya want not what is just good enough.. ya know..?
post #11983 of 15247
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Originally Posted by poster View Post

Can anyone explain to me what these options mean on the FV15HP?


Description: Other Options Price

Upgrade to H600XLR2 (with one XLR in and one XLR out) $40 buy it now
Upgrade to H600XLR3 (with two XLR ins) $40 buy it now

I assume it has to do with the amplifier, but does it improve things or only needed if you have certain other equipment? Hopefully not too dumb of a question.

They are variations using XLR (balanced) connectors. Few use those as most of us have standard RCA jacks and cables. XLR is usually only needed for very long runs and/or in a high-interference environment. Chances are you do not need them even if you happen to have XLR connections on your AVR.
post #11984 of 15247
Watched the plane crash scene with the new fv15hps. Holy ****! The bass output is insane!! Absolutly am in love with theese subs right now!
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^^Flight of the Phoenix scene? Glad you enjoy them.
post #11986 of 15247
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Originally Posted by newc33 View Post

^^ YA know ur actually right. Plus its a quality black oak laminent looks very real with some depth.

Its just the principle when u spend 2500 dollars on subs its nice to get what ya want not what is just good enough.. ya know..?

Josh,

If you really want to have black matte finish, it is still not too late. I am always concerned about how black matte will look in large enclosures like FV15HP (not to mention F25). It is easier to show blemish (or imperfection). This time I only have 5 units and I have started selling them until now we are short of FV15HP again. I cannot keep up with you guys.
post #11987 of 15247
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Originally Posted by DonH50 View Post

They are variations using XLR (balanced) connectors. Few use those as most of us have standard RCA jacks and cables. XLR is usually only needed for very long runs and/or in a high-interference environment. Chances are you do not need them even if you happen to have XLR connections on your AVR.

XLR is a more "pure" interface between components, so it's value is not necessarily relegated strictly to long cable runs or to minimize potential interference. It provides no benefit if there's a conversion from RCA to XLR though, so unless the entire path is XLR it may not offer much improvement in signal quality.
post #11988 of 15247
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Originally Posted by Rythmik View Post

Josh,

If you really want to have black matte finish, it is still not too late. I am always concerned about how black matte will look in large enclosures like FV15HP (not to mention F25). It is easier to show blemish (or imperfection). This time I only have 5 units and I have started selling them until now we are short of FV15HP again. I cannot keep up with you guys.

Thank u very much I apreciate the offerer! I will stuck with the subs I have as they really don't look bad at all. I was more or less a little dissapointed I was told the fv15hp did not come inblack matte because that's originally what I wanted, then 3 days after I got my subs I found out they do..

Really I'm not mad it was just a little frustrating to hear.

Anyway I think theese are absolutly phenomenal subs and overall I'm very happy with my purchase!

I can't belive that theese ported subs have such enourmous output below even the 15hz mark!

Very glad I did not go with a pb13 ultra or move to something like a submerssive or cap. Those would have costed thousands more but I'm MORE than happy with the fv15hp! !

Great job!

Now its time for some looper!


PS I'm impressed u remembered my actuall name and it was a pleasure speaking with u on the phone earlier!
post #11989 of 15247
Iv never heard low bass like theese subs can produce! Miles from what the lv12r could dream of!
post #11990 of 15247
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Originally Posted by Cowboys View Post

^^Flight of the Phoenix scene? Glad you enjoy them.


Yes lol so excited I forget to mention what movie hahaha
post #11991 of 15247
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Originally Posted by JimWilson View Post

XLR is a more "pure" interface between components, so it's value is not necessarily relegated strictly to long cable runs or to minimize potential interference. It provides no benefit if there's a conversion from RCA to XLR though, so unless the entire path is XLR it may not offer much improvement in signal quality.

Would the XLR reduce the instances of ground loops?
post #11992 of 15247
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Originally Posted by JimWilson View Post

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Originally Posted by DonH50 View Post

They are variations using XLR (balanced) connectors. Few use those as most of us have standard RCA jacks and cables. XLR is usually only needed for very long runs and/or in a high-interference environment. Chances are you do not need them even if you happen to have XLR connections on your AVR.

XLR is a more "pure" interface between components, so it's value is not necessarily relegated strictly to long cable runs or to minimize potential interference. It provides no benefit if there's a conversion from RCA to XLR though, so unless the entire path is XLR it may not offer much improvement in signal quality.

I am not sure what you mean by "pure". If both ends (and the cable) are fully differential then you gain common-mode rejection and potentially lower even-order distortion (not all XLR I/O circuits are fully differential; some are quasi-differential, even on pro equipment). Differential circuits tend to be noisier, however, and distortion is so low that going from inaudible to more inaudible may not buy much.

FWIWFM, in the high-speed large-signal world of GHz and up circuits that I play in for my day job, everything is differential. Except when doing pro sound, XLR is not a factor for me in choosing my audio gear.
post #11993 of 15247
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Originally Posted by Ozzie Isaac View Post

Would the XLR reduce the instances of ground loops?

I don't imagine it would make a difference, but that one I'm not 100% certain of. Perhaps someone else will be able to clarify further.
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If the source and receiver are fully differential, the shield is not the signal ground, and then you can "float" the ground at one end to break a ground loop. It is not uncommon in pro systems to only connect the ground at one end (usually the source, or driving, end). If the circuits at both ends are not fully-differential, it depends on the circuit topology.
post #11995 of 15247
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Originally Posted by DonH50 View Post

I am not sure what you mean by "pure". If both ends (and the cable) are fully differential then you gain common-mode rejection and potentially lower even-order distortion (not all XLR I/O circuits are fully differential; some are quasi-differential, even on pro equipment). Differential circuits tend to be noisier, however, and distortion is so low that going from inaudible to more inaudible may not buy much.

FWIWFM, in the high-speed large-signal world of GHz and up circuits that I play in for my day job, everything is differential. Except when doing pro sound, XLR is not a factor for me in choosing my audio gear.

These aren't Ghz signal paths though, so I'm not certain high-speed requirements apply to subwoofers.

I wasn't really sure what word to use when I posted that, which is why I quoted 'pure' in the first place. It seemed endemic, but not as descriptive as I would have liked. The crux of what I was attempting to convey is that XLR is not just for long cable runs; it's also for better signal quality. Is the difference audible? Who knows. Regardless, I suspect there's a reason all studio monitors have XLR inputs, and it's probably due more to the need to have pure signal paths than anything else. Studios rarely have exceedingly long cable runs, so that's more than likely not the overriding concern.
post #11996 of 15247
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Originally Posted by Ozzie Isaac View Post

Would the XLR reduce the instances of ground loops?

Ground loop can only happen if you have both signal ground and power ground and the two are fighting and see which one wins. Signal ground is clean and power ground is dirty. When signal ground loses to power ground, you hear that nasty hum noise. It is as if the power ground takes over your signal ground and becomes the reference for signal transmission between two machines. The reason it is called ground loop is because if you break the connection between power ground of two machines and let the signal ground win, the ground loop is broken. XLR technically does not break ground loop, but it reduces the nasty hum noise you can hear because "ground" is no longer the reference of signal transmission. We have both plus and minus and the difference of the two is what really counts.
post #11997 of 15247
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Originally Posted by newc33 View Post

Watched the plane crash scene with the new fv15hps. Holy ****! The bass output is insane!! Absolutly am in love with theese subs right now!

I am so looking forward to this experience. Did you listen to the lighting storm scene. That scene has to be insane also.
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I will likely have a long run, perhaps 25 feet. I don't understand how I would get a balanaced XLR type of output from my HT Receiver (like a Denon x1000) to use the XLR input to a sub.

Thanks
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Use a RCA > XLR converter?

Somebody else will have to post how it all works.
post #12000 of 15247
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Originally Posted by longs91peak View Post

I will likely have a long run, perhaps 25 feet. I don't understand how I would get a balanaced XLR type of output from my HT Receiver (like a Denon x1000) to use the XLR input to a sub.

Thanks

Hosa Technology GXM133 Signal Converter

http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-Technology-GXM133-Signal-Converter/dp/B000068O4D/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1385905014&sr=8-2&keywords=hosa+rca+to+xlr

But why do you want to use balanced input on the sub? If you think it is a balanced connection; it won't be. As the signal is still unbalanced on AVR end. If you have RCA inputs on the sub; better use them.
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