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post #12301 of 15139
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Originally Posted by Ozzie Isaac View Post

Thanks for the info. That was my suspicion, but I couldn't find anything definitive.
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The amp can be converted from ported to sealed configuration fairly easily. Brian will send you instructions, I believe, and you can have it done locally.
post #12302 of 15139
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Originally Posted by Blacklightning View Post

Port...

I know, I know...
It's a music only room, I would buy a LV12 for the TV room but for my music only room I want the best/$$ with still filling the room. I'm a pure Classical music guy and the only subs I have liked was a Rel and the Paradigm Servo 15 version 1.
I want but do not need Bass, I have returned a lot of subs because they sounded too much like a sub or they did not go as low as my mains.
I'm just looking for flat performance to 16Hz (I can't hear passed 25hz mad.gif), as I want my system to be playing everything from my CD's or LP's.

Right now the F12G is looking good but will one be good for my room size?

Nobody talks about the "G" model.

The rear ported LV12-R will stand shoulder to shoulder with any sealed sub you want to throw at it in terms of bass articulation.
post #12303 of 15139
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Originally Posted by DonH50 View Post

I think it's on hold. Why not an LV12, cost, size, or ???
Port...

I know, I know...
It's a music only room, I would buy a LV12 for the TV room but for my music only room I want the best/$$ with still filling the room. I'm a pure Classical music guy and the only subs I have liked was a Rel and the Paradigm Servo 15 version 1.
I want but do not need Bass, I have returned a lot of subs because they sounded too much like a sub or they did not go as low as my mains.
I'm just looking for flat performance to 16Hz (I can't hear passed 25hz mad.gif), as I want my system to be playing everything from my CD's or LP's.

Right now the F12G is looking good but will one be good for my room size?

Nobody talks about the "G" model.

I think there's a blurb on the website comparing the two (was when I was looking, a few years ago). I have a pair of F12's. How big is your room?
post #12304 of 15139
There is more discussion of the G 12" at the GR Research AudioCircle chat room (or whatever they're called). The paper version is said to be slightly more transparent/focused/detailed, with more resolution at low volumes than the aluminum-coned 12". Danny Richie (the R of GR, and Brian's collaborator) calls it the only true audiophile sub. I think Rythmik subs qualify for that title as well!
post #12305 of 15139
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Originally Posted by BDP24 View Post

Danny Richie (the R of GR, and Brian's collaborator) calls it the only true audiophile sub. I think Rythmik subs qualify for that title as well!

"Audiophile" is such a subjective term. And we all know how bad a person's hearing becomes, when held to the confines of a double-blind study.



I'm not knocking anybody. Just saying.

(disclosure: waiting on the delivery of two FV15HPs)
post #12306 of 15139
Does anybody know if Beeman is getting subs??? biggrin.gif had to.
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Does anybody know if Beeman is getting subs??? biggrin.gif had to.

I called UPS and told them to return to sender.
post #12308 of 15139
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Does anybody know if Beeman is getting subs??? biggrin.gif had to.

...redface.gif

In full disclosure, I don't know as UPS hasn't sent their list of demands to be complied with if I ever want to see them released from their hostage status.

...tongue.gif

(you guys get to say you have your subs....I'm still in limbo)

"Hey BeeMan, what subs do you have."

"I don't know. UPS won't give them too me."

...tongue.gif

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Originally Posted by Ozzie Isaac View Post

I called UPS and told them to return to sender.

...eek.gif...eek.gif...eek.gif

(sobs inconsolably)

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Edited by BeeMan458 - 12/12/13 at 7:50am
post #12309 of 15139
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Originally Posted by BeeMan458 View Post

(disclosure: waiting on the delivery of two FV15HPs)

I think I found them. Special care was taken in the delivery on each one.
post #12310 of 15139
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Originally Posted by BCRSS View Post

I think I found them. Special care was taken in the delivery on each one.

That's too funny!

LMAO!
post #12311 of 15139
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Originally Posted by DonH50 View Post

I think there's a blurb on the website comparing the two (was when I was looking, a few years ago). I have a pair of F12's. How big is your room?
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Originally Posted by Blacklightning View Post

Maybe I missed it in this huge thread but did Rythmik release the 8" sealed sub yet (I think dual 8's like the F25)?

I'm building a music room 16' x 13' with vaulted 9' to 13' ceiling, sealed room. I would like to know what is the minimum I can get away with. I'm in Canada so I want to keep the price down and at the same time I'm too lazy to build.

I do not really want to buy the LV12.

smile.gif
post #12312 of 15139
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Originally Posted by Blacklightning View Post

I do not really want to buy the LV12.

My understanding, SVS is sold in Canada. May get you where you want to go.
post #12313 of 15139
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Originally Posted by 3db View Post

The rear ported LV12-R will stand shoulder to shoulder with any sealed sub you want to throw at it in terms of bass articulation.
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The rear ported LV12-R will stand shoulder to shoulder with any sealed sub you want to throw at it in terms of bass articulation.

Yes, with other none Rythmik sealed subs. If I could try them both for a week each I could pick based on performance/price.

I agree if I was blind folded and told that this music room have a F12G but it really had a LV12-R I would say "WOW that is beautiful, I will take it"
Or if I were to walk into a room and I was told it had 2 FV15HP's but it really had a 2 LV12-R I would say "WOW that is a lot of BASS"

The difference is small and most of it might be in our heads but at the end of the day if I when home with the LV12-R's I will always wonder what my system would sound like with the other subs.

Long story short, If I just got the LV12-R I would always wonder if the sealed Rythmik's would sound better but if I just got the sealed Rythmik I would not think that the cheaper ported box would be better.
post #12314 of 15139
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Originally Posted by Blacklightning View Post

Long story short, If I just got the LV12-R I would always wonder if the sealed Rythmik's would sound better but if I just got the sealed Rythmik I would not think that the cheaper ported box would be better.

The short version:

Ported for large rooms.

Sealed for smaller rooms.

Sealed digs deeper than ported.

Ported outputs more than sealed.

Sealed for music.

Ported for movies.

Rythmik for "Direct Servo" technology.

In the end, it's all about the Benjamins, how many of them one has and what the individual's end game is. And if you know all the above, ignore my above.
post #12315 of 15139
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Originally Posted by BeeMan458 View Post

My understanding, SVS is sold in Canada. May get you where you want to go.

Yes, my friend just ordered a PB1000 the other day and he will be picking it up today as they did not deliver yesterday due to weather. I would end up getting two SB1000's but SVS is not the first few name that I think of when I think of a sub for classical Music and 16hz may not be possible with SB1000's in my room. Plus, I will still wonder about what a Rythmik sub sounds like.

I may change my mind after hearing the PB1000. eek.gif
post #12316 of 15139
The short version:

Ported for large rooms. Sealed for smaller rooms.
My room is 13'x16'x11' avg so it's 2000sq/feet Medium to small

Sealed digs deeper than ported. Ported outputs more than sealed.
I care about extension, all the cheap subs I tried could play louder than I need for my music so I do not think volume will be a problem. I also will end up with two or more.
Sealed for music. Ported for movies.
I do not 100% agree but with agree when you are staying within a brand and price point.

Rythmik for "Direct Servo" technology.
I loved the paradigm SERVO, that is why Rythmik is on my list. I did not like the newer non-servo Paradigm sealed subs even the SUB 2

In the end, it's all about the Benjamins, how many of them one has and what the individual's end game is. And if you know all the above, ignore my above
Whatever I can get away with, with the wife.
post #12317 of 15139
I have a pair of Rythmik Servo 15" subs. They are pretty large, and I am thinking I'd like to use the top surface for something, most likely a place to put a peice of sculpture.

How would putting something heavy on a peice of perspex on top of the sub affect performance? Is that just a complete no-no?

Just wondering if it's worth getting the perspex made up or not.....

Cheers!
post #12318 of 15139
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How would putting something heavy on a peice of perspex on top of the sub affect performance? Is that just a complete no-no?

You can put anything on top of the sub, which doesn't resonate when the sub is hitting hard and, at the same time, does not compromise the structural integrity of the sub itself.
post #12319 of 15139
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Originally Posted by Blacklightning View Post

The short version:

Ported for large rooms. Sealed for smaller rooms.
My room is 13'x16'x11' avg so it's 2000sq/feet Medium to small

Sealed digs deeper than ported. Ported outputs more than sealed.
I care about extension, all the cheap subs I tried could play louder than I need for my music so I do not think volume will be a problem. I also will end up with two or more.
Sealed for music. Ported for movies.
I do not 100% agree but with agree when you are staying within a brand and price point.

Rythmik for "Direct Servo" technology.
I loved the paradigm SERVO, that is why Rythmik is on my list. I did not like the newer non-servo Paradigm sealed subs even the SUB 2

In the end, it's all about the Benjamins, how many of them one has and what the individual's end game is. And if you know all the above, ignore my above
Whatever I can get away with, with the wife.
for your room size, any pair of Rythmik will do but I always shoot for the best to end all of the 'what if' question. Rythmik servo is completely different than Paradigm servo. Brian can explain more.
post #12320 of 15139
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Originally Posted by Blacklightning View Post

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I think there's a blurb on the website comparing the two (was when I was looking, a few years ago). I have a pair of F12's. How big is your room?
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Originally Posted by Blacklightning View Post

Maybe I missed it in this huge thread but did Rythmik release the 8" sealed sub yet (I think dual 8's like the F25)?

I'm building a music room 16' x 13' with vaulted 9' to 13' ceiling, sealed room. I would like to know what is the minimum I can get away with. I'm in Canada so I want to keep the price down and at the same time I'm too lazy to build.

I do not really want to buy the LV12.

smile.gif

I expect a single F12 would work OK in that size sealed room but you'd probably be happier with the F15. Or you can buy an F12 now and another later (with a 10% discount, good for life once you've bought one sub). Of course a lot depends upon how loud you want it.


When I was shopping around and shortly after getting my F12's I listened to several Paradigm (and Velodyne, and...) models. I could not tell a difference between my $1k Rythmik and the $3k Paradigm. YMMV.
post #12321 of 15139
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Originally Posted by DonH50 View Post

I expect a single F12 would work OK in that size sealed room but you'd probably be happier with the F15. Or you can buy an F12 now and another later (with a 10% discount, good for life once you've bought one sub). Of course a lot depends upon how loud you want it.


When I was shopping around and shortly after getting my F12's I listened to several Paradigm (and Velodyne, and...) models. I could not tell a difference between my $1k Rythmik and the $3k Paradigm. YMMV.

10% off if and when I buy another Rythmik direct from them?
post #12322 of 15139
Yup.
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L12 any word on this???
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Also, don't be reluctant to buy B stock from Brian. My second LV12R was B stock and was in mint condition and functioned flawlessly.
post #12325 of 15139
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Also, don't be reluctant to buy B stock from Brian.

Just saying. Every time I've checked, there's "NEVER" been anything in their clearance section. Nobody's turning anything back in. tongue.gif
post #12326 of 15139
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Originally Posted by Blacklightning View Post

L12 any word on this???

Count me as curious also.
post #12327 of 15139
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Originally Posted by BeeMan458 View Post

Just saying. Every time I've checked, there's "NEVER" been anything in their clearance section. Nobody's turning anything back in. tongue.gif
I'm not sure the website is updated frequently. It certainly seemed out of date when you look at the product description page. I ordered the regular and Rythmik gave me a choice of waiting or B Stock, can you guess which I took? biggrin.gif

I haven't gotten much time on them yet, but I'll try and post something tonight on my impressions. Do subs need to be broken in, and if so what is the best way to do that?
post #12328 of 15139
Yes, subs benefit from break-in in the same way an engine benefits from a break-in period. In the case of subwoofers, there's no magic. Simply play some content through them for about forty hours. Any change after forty hours is negligible.
post #12329 of 15139
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Originally Posted by BeeMan458 View Post

Speaking of future plans, do you guys have any intention of producing an FV25HP? That would be a perfect add to the FV15HP. And if possible, tune it to 10Hz.

(what can I say? Yes, I can get greedy.)

I have two FV15HPs on their way. I have an eye on adding a future (no guarantee) FV15HP but would much rather add a FV25HP. Tuned to 10Hz, with an eye on 6Hz or 8Hz, now that's an upgrade worth getting excited about. biggrin.gif

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"FV25HP" Did I read that right?
post #12330 of 15139
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Originally Posted by DreamCatcher View Post

"FV25HP" Did I read that right?

There isn't a FV25HP. It's a subwoofer I would like to see Rythmik create and sell. I see it in the light of the already designed, created and being sold, F25.

(sorry if I confused and excited)

That would be outstanding to be able to buy a dual fifteen inch, ported subwoofer, tuned to 10Hz with a 1000w Amp (FV25HP) to help keep us entertained. A subwoofer with those specification would marry up sweetly with a pair of FV15HPs and help with placement/output issues.

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Edited by BeeMan458 - 12/12/13 at 5:28pm
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