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post #3541 of 9651
Thanks for all the feedback. Here is the silkscreen for PEQ3



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1) What are the differences between the PEQ2 and PEQ3 amps, specifically (other than what you already detailed above)?
2) When will the 12" silver drivers again be available?

The main difference is the auto on is back and the limiter is on when auto on is selected. I figure I cannot possibly please everyone with one switch only. But the above arrangement should get the most votes.

Silver cone DS1200 will be in this coming shipment. So is the F15/F12 black matte finish.

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Will your solution be in a component case that can be placed on a shelf or mounted on a rack? Or is it some sort of plate amp (with extra speaker outs)? The former would be helpful in keeping the electronics centralized and only having to run speaker wire from my rack (like I do for my other speakers).

The goal is to have a plate amp solution first and then proceed to rack mount. With rack mount we can add some useful display features. But rack mount is more expensive.
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post #3542 of 9651
^Typo on the AUTO label.
post #3543 of 9651
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Originally Posted by EaOther View Post

... So now I'm thinking about 2 dual driver kits, 4 vented boxes, but putting 2 on the front wall and 2 on the back wall (and I give JamesN credit for planting that seed). And, per Brian's and Enrico's feedback, the paired boxes will need to be in "close proximity".

First, is your room a closed rectangle? If it's not then none of the simplifying assumptions can be made. If it is closed then the speakers need to be close enough to be coherent. I strongly recommend that you look at the Harmon work to get some background.

Given that you have a closed room the midwall location uses half the power dealing with nulls so you get the output of a single box. That's why the two-wall mid-point solution wants four subwoofers in two pairs. You can start with two and if you need more output you can get two more.

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2 enough, or would 4 be better? (By better, I mean actually superior in performance, not just providing more headroom than we'll ever need.)

The point of multiple subwoofers is room mode mitigation. So yes more help.
post #3544 of 9651
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Originally Posted by Rythmik View Post

Thanks for all the feedback. Here is the silkscreen for PEQ3

The main difference is the auto on is back and the limiter is on when auto on is selected. I figure I cannot possibly please everyone with one switch only. But the above arrangement should get the most votes.

Hooray for auto-on! I said to myself just two day ago that my next sub needs it.

Not too thrilled about the limiter being on at the same time, but like you said, theirs only so much you can do with one switch.
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^Typo on the AUTO label.
Thanks.

I am glad you catch it.
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Thanks.

I am glad you catch it.
Don't mention it.
post #3547 of 9651
Hello all. Well, it seems the FV15Hp is the only one on the market that seems to have all what i need. I have considered another name brand but the SQ ppl have mentioned about this sub, and also, better warranty has pushed me over (plus it looks nice!). However, It will be a little while before I get it. I was wondering if there is an online manual. I have been looking at the amp controls on the back and even tho i will use my avr/pre-pro (that I am getting ready to buy first), I would like to understand what all of the controls mean and how you actually hook it up! TIA
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Originally Posted by e2g_ View Post

Hello all. Well, it seems the FV15Hp is the only one on the market that seems to have all what i need. I have considered another name brand but the SQ ppl have mentioned about this sub, and also, better warranty has pushed me over (plus it looks nice!). However, It will be a little while before I get it. I was wondering if there is an online manual. I have been looking at the amp controls on the back and even tho i will use my avr/pre-pro (that I am getting ready to buy first), I would like to understand what all of the controls mean and how you actually hook it up! TIA

Must say that I'm jealous. Wish I could have stepped it up to that sub. The only sub other than that in the Rythmik line I rather have is the F25... and especially an F25HP when he comes out with that. You're going to love your sub when you get it...wise decision.
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Originally Posted by benclement11 View Post

Must say that I'm jealous. Wish I could have stepped it up to that sub. The only sub other than that in the Rythmik line I rather have is the F25... and especially an F25HP when he comes out with that. You're going to love your sub when you get it...wise decision.

. Well i don't know when I will get it and I am sure something new may come out by then but it is obvious to me that Rhythmic may be my brand of choice when it comes to a great performing sub. So, I can't wait. Until then, I will drool over current rhythmic owner setups.

Don't see much youtube videos of owners showing their subs off tho
post #3550 of 9651
I'm still waiting for a bloody invoice so I can order the FV15HP

While I wait, the matte finish has piqued my interest. I wonder if I should hold out for that or go with the black oak. My fronts actually look like the black oak but my current sub is matte and it looks pretty nice.

Is the black oak soft or rough?

Oh and is there a significant difference between the FV and FVHP (550version)?
post #3551 of 9651
My custom Rythmik's are flat matte black so they just vanish into the room when the HT is rockin, see my sig. They actually make me wish my towers were matte vs the shiny black oak.

Jason
post #3552 of 9651
Just hooked my new E15--man this thing is impressive! I'm proud to own my first Rythmik sub.
post #3553 of 9651
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I'm still waiting for a bloody invoice so I can order the FV15HP

While I wait, the matte finish has piqued my interest. I wonder if I should hold out for that or go with the black oak. My fronts actually look like the black oak but my current sub is matte and it looks pretty nice.

Is the black oak soft or rough?

Oh and is there a significant difference between the FV and FVHP (550version)?

What do you mean waiting for an invoice?

As far as matte vs. black oak...I don't like the look of matte anything. To me it is cheap looking. That's only my opinion and as another poster stated...you don't see it when the lights go out anyway. I bought piano black because it is set-up in my living room and is on display. If it were in a dedicated theater or hidden behind a screen then I would have not paid the premium for the finish.

The FV15HP is going to supply you with more headroom. If you push hard and or have a large room then you will benefit by buying the HP. If you can swing the extra cash and won't miss the money, I would not even hesitate purchasing the HP. I wish I had bought the F15HP...I love my F15, but you always want more.
post #3554 of 9651
Ya I think the little extra for the HP will be worth it in the end. I hate looking back and regretting a purchase, especially one that will last you years and years.

Like I said I don't mind matte, the one I have now blends in well enough that I don't notice it. Black oak can be hit or miss, my front speakers are a gorgeous black oak, while my rears are a cheap looking black oak so depending on which one the sub resembles, would impact my decision.

As for the invoice, its an international order.
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Originally Posted by holt7153 View Post

Just hooked my new E15--man this thing is impressive! I'm proud to own my first Rythmik sub.

Right on. How does it sound? The little SVS already sounded great in your room...
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Ya I think the little extra for the HP will be worth it in the end. I hate looking back and regretting a purchase, especially one that will last you years and years.

Like I said I don't mind matte, the one I have now blends in well enough that I don't notice it. Black oak can be hit or miss, my front speakers are a gorgeous black oak, while my rears are a cheap looking black oak so depending on which one the sub resembles, would impact my decision.

As for the invoice, its an international order.

My mains are Monitor Audio RS6 towers from '06 in black oak and I was pleasantly surprised to find the black oak on my new E15 matched very well. Both look very nice together.
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Originally Posted by holt7153 View Post

Just hooked my new E15--man this thing is impressive! I'm proud to own my first Rythmik sub.

And you didn't sample my F15 first?
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And you didn't sample my F15 first?

I almost PM'd you to accept your generous demo offer, but in the back of my mind I knew I really wanted a Rythmik. I posted a "thank you" in another thread recently for helping me to finally make my decision. I knew I would love yours and place an order so I decided to speed up the process. Winning the weekly poker game and a unusually successful trip to Vegas helped speed up my decision as well.

Thanks, Curtis
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Originally Posted by 1080pee View Post

Ya I think the little extra for the HP will be worth it in the end. I hate looking back and regretting a purchase, especially one that will last you years and years.

Like I said I don't mind matte, the one I have now blends in well enough that I don't notice it. Black oak can be hit or miss, my front speakers are a gorgeous black oak, while my rears are a cheap looking black oak so depending on which one the sub resembles, would impact my decision.

As for the invoice, its an international order.

Well, if you think the picture on the website is good enough to make the decision off of, I would say that they are pretty indicative of what the sub actually looks like. My piano finish came just like the online picture looks. I would suspect the black oak to be the same. I know exactly what you mean by cheap looking black oak. I don't think that's what you would be receiving from Rythmik. I can't say for certain as I have never seen one in person, but I'm led to believe that it would be a nice looking quality finish. I was very pleased with the piano black.

Either way, if you like the matte finish, don't let me sway your opinion. To each their own.
post #3560 of 9651
I think I'll go with the black oak, I might as well since the rest of my speakers are the same finish. Also, it will be a nice change from the matte sub I've had for years.

On a side note, does the FV15HP have a DS1510 driver? I notice its the same as the F15HP in the picture, which lists the DS1510 as the driver while the FV15 is pictured with the DS1505 I presume.
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Originally Posted by benclement11 View Post
Must say that I'm jealous. Wish I could have stepped it up to that sub. The only sub other than that in the Rythmik line I rather have is the F25... and especially an F25HP when he comes out with that. You're going to love your sub when you get it...wise decision.
Just curious-are you saying you'd rather have a FV15 instead of your F15? Why?(I'm considering both for 50/50 music/ht mix).
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DS1501 is our baseline driver. DS1505 is one piece dish with larger magnets. It has slightly longer stroke than DS1501. It also extends 10hz higher than DS1501. DS1505 has the same excursion as DS1501

Other than that, the difference between DS1501 and DS1505 is mostly aesthetic.

FV15 use DS1501 as F15 and F25.
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DS1501 and DS1505 drivers works for A370 amp (370 watts) and that is the max we recommend. Xmax for both drivers is 15mm.
DS1510 driver works for H600 and H550 amps and the Xmax is around 21mm.

In terms of volume (cu ft) DS1501 and DS1505 are 0.25 cu ft. DS1510 is 0.35 cu ft.

In terms of parameters, in Brian's words:

"Their parameters are very similar. And that is intentional. For instance, DS1510 is only 20g heavier in terms. Most importantly, those parameters are really just for reference. Our servo will take care the frequency response. Customers don't even need to bother with T/S parameters. That is the whole idea of our CI. It is completely fool-proof."
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Originally Posted by Rythmik View Post
That is correct. DS1505 uses the same dish cone as DS1510. The pole piece is also bumped so it provide a bit larger mechanical excursion limit that is beneficial for ported subs. After some thought, I decide to offer that as an option. I really recommend DS1505 option for "FV15".
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For F15, the larger mechanical excursion of DS1505 makes a smaller improvement. In FV15 and other ported subs, the cone excursion below port tuning frequency can easily shoot up several times of the excursion of frequencies above port tuning frequency. I have been using DS1501 for standard FV15. But upon more usage, I concluded DS1505 is a better fit. There is an free upgrade for those who had purchased FV15 with DS1501. Please contact me.
I and others asked about some of the 15" cones a while back and these are some of the responses.
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Just curious-are you saying you'd rather have a FV15 instead of your F15? Why?(I'm considering both for 50/50 music/ht mix).
I'd rather have the F25 over them all...but my room is pretty large and could have probably benefited from the larger ported sub like the FV15HP. I prefer the sound of sealed over ported(in general), but could not stretch my budget anymore at the time to get the bigger sub. Did you say how big your room is?
post #3564 of 9651
Thanks for the quotes mph, thats what I suspected.

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Originally Posted by benclement11 View Post

I'd rather have the F25 over them all...but my room is pretty large and could have probably benefited from the larger ported sub like the FV15HP. I prefer the sound of sealed over ported(in general), but could not stretch my budget anymore at the time to get the bigger sub. Did you say how big your room is?

I wish I had the opportunity to audition sealed and ported subs in my house. I'm taking the plunge on a ported sub but I have no experience with sealed and little experience with quality ported subs. Thats been the hardest part in this buying process, not knowing if I want "tight" bass or whatever qualities you can name. Would I rather "feel" the bass in my chest or shake the house...? I have no idea!

Nonetheless, I'd imagine I can't lose with a sub like the FV15HP coming from a POS Klipsch with 50 RMS peak .
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Originally Posted by benclement11 View Post

I'd rather have the F25 over them all...but my room is pretty large and could have probably benefited from the larger ported sub like the FV15HP. I prefer the sound of sealed over ported(in general), but could not stretch my budget anymore at the time to get the bigger sub. Did you say how big your room is?

2800 cu. ft.
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Originally Posted by 1080pee View Post

Thanks for the quotes mph, thats what I suspected.



I wish I had the opportunity to audition sealed and ported subs in my house. I'm taking the plunge on a ported sub but I have no experience with sealed and little experience with quality ported subs. Thats been the hardest part in this buying process, not knowing if I want "tight" bass or whatever qualities you can name. Would I rather "feel" the bass in my chest or shake the house...? I have no idea!

Nonetheless, I'd imagine I can't lose with a sub like the FV15HP coming from a POS Klipsch with 50 RMS peak .

I went from a 75RMS Mirage Nano S8 to a Rythmik FV15 and never looked back I also had no prior experience with quality sealed vs ported subs but I can say that with what I am hearing in my 3500+ cu ft space, the Rythmik FV15 has provided me with tight, articulate bass that stops on a dime while giving that thump in your chest feeling that shakes the house
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Originally Posted by 1080pee View Post

Thanks for the quotes mph, thats what I suspected.



I wish I had the opportunity to audition sealed and ported subs in my house. I'm taking the plunge on a ported sub but I have no experience with sealed and little experience with quality ported subs. Thats been the hardest part in this buying process, not knowing if I want "tight" bass or whatever qualities you can name. Would I rather "feel" the bass in my chest or shake the house...? I have no idea!

Nonetheless, I'd imagine I can't lose with a sub like the FV15HP coming from a POS Klipsch with 50 RMS peak .

I have never heard a ported RYthmik and judging by how accurate their sealed subs are...I'm sure the ported sub will be incredible accurate as well. I think you are make a good choice going with Rythmik, regardless if it's ported or sealed.
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2800 cu. ft.

So are you leaning toward one or the other. 2800 is smaller than mine so I think you could get away with a sealed sub in that size room if you really wanted to. Either sub is a win. Could you swing the F15HP?
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So are you leaning toward one or the other. 2800 is smaller than mine so I think you could get away with a sealed sub in that size room if you really wanted to. Either sub is a win. Could you swing the F15HP?

Kind of in the middle right now. I've got a perfect,still under warranty Velodyne DEQ-15r(750w,15",ported) I'm using. It's o.k.,plenty ooomfph for h/t,but gets a little "loose" or "muddy" on the "way downs" when listening to music. (50% of the time). I've been trying to sell the Velo for $600 with no luck. Brian says a FV15 would be best for me, but I'm a little skeptic about ported subs. I'm also skeptic about the F15 providing enough impact for h/t. The choice could be easily made if I could hear them side by side,but that's not going to happen so it's a tough choice. Plus, I can't afford either 'till I sell the Velodyne!
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Kind of in the middle right now. I've got a perfect,still under warranty Velodyne DEQ-15r(750w,15",ported) I'm using. It's o.k.,plenty ooomfph for h/t,but gets a little "loose" or "muddy" on the "way downs" when listening to music. (50% of the time). I've been trying to sell the Velo for $600 with no luck. Brian says a FV15 would be best for me, but I'm a little skeptic about ported subs. I'm also skeptic about the F15 providing enough impact for h/t. The choice could be easily made if I could hear them side by side,but that's not going to happen so it's a tough choice. Plus, I can't afford either 'till I sell the Velodyne!

I would not worry about the accuracy of the ported sub one bit. They are still servo controlled and with how extremely accurate(almost took time to get use to) the sealed subs are, I would imagine the ported subs are pretty darn good. For home theater my singl F15 does good, I do want to add a 2nd one though since my room is on the larger side for single sub use. It's tough to say what "enough" is for someone else though. An F15 will be quite a bit better than that Velodyne you are using. The F15, I believe is more in line with the Velodyne DD series. If you can accomodate an F25...I would get it and not ever look back.
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