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post #4741 of 9709
That's your opinion.
post #4742 of 9709
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Originally Posted by bearchan View Post

That's your opinion.

Ha, ok, guys. If I pursue this line of thinking, I will do it outside this thread. I'm sure Brian is already upset enough with the amp situation without having arguments breaking out in his thread about the competition. I probably shouldn't have mentioned it, so let's let it go, please.
post #4743 of 9709
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Originally Posted by tuck0411 View Post

I am starting to think along those lines myself. Might be worth starting a thread about what sub would people buy if they couldn't get a Rythmik. Seems doubtful, though, that there are any other brands that come close to Rythmik performance, at least anywhere close to the same price-point.

Must not have researched much. I love my F15, but there are lots of great subs at this price point. It's all about what you're looking for in a sub man.
post #4744 of 9709
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Originally Posted by benclement11 View Post

Must not have researched much. I love my F15, but there are lots of great subs at this price point. It's all about what you're looking for in a sub man.

Ben, I researched long enough to find Rythmik, and that was after looking at a couple of others first. I am still inclined to stick with Rythmik, but I just hope the amps come in soon so the urge to look around doesn't get any stronger. What I want in a sub is exactly what I've been reading about in this thread and I haven't read that those same attributes can be found elsewhere without spending a whole lot more cash.
post #4745 of 9709
Stick it out a little longer Todd, Brian's servo controlled, sealed creation is worth the wait. I just shut mine down for the night after some DMB live :-)
post #4746 of 9709
I'm not sure what "DMB live" is, but yeah, I can think of a whole lot of stuff I'd like to be listening to with an F12 in the mix. I figure I'll give it at least another month before I decide whether to look elsewhere. There are probably a hell of a lot of Chinese who would kill for a good job making amplifiers, so hopefully the management over there can pull their head out and hire a few of them and get things rolling again.
post #4747 of 9709
The Rythmik is quite unique and I doubt you'd find any other sub with its sound qualities but as benclement11 said, depending upon what you are looking for out of a sub, a Rythmik may or may not be what you want. If you've heard one and have decided that's the sound you want, then you'll just have to wait patiently and be at the mercy of Brian's amp supplier ...or you could make me an offer I can't refuse

(Now you do realize that was just a joke right... I really can't be without my Rythmiks through the holidays.)
post #4748 of 9709
Dave Matthews Band concert in Central Park, NY dvd 2003. One of my favorites.
post #4749 of 9709
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Originally Posted by sputter1 View Post

...There are a number of subs that compete.

You cannot be serious here... have you actually had the opportunity to listen to a Rythmik that was properly integrated and within a 'tight' room? If you had I seriously doubt you'd have said that last thing there. Oh there may be other subs in the same price bracket with comparable 'measurements' but certainly not sounding the same.
post #4750 of 9709
I have contacted Rythmik numerous times in the past few months and have had success using the Contact Us tab on the site. I sent the messages at night and had a response by the morning every time.

I paid for 2 F15HPs in the middle of October and was told a couple of weeks. Then a week, then the end of November, then the first week of December. I was then told on the 1st three more weeks.

The amp issue sucks big time. I have wanted to purchase Rythmik subs since last winter but had one thing after another. Every time I got close to purchasing them I had something come up that did not allow it. I finally said screw it and ordered them on my birthday, I was unaware of the amp issue at that time. The item was not listed on the site as back ordered, it still is not today.

I am not knocking them but I did find the communication frustrating. I don't see a point in giving a date if your not certain. It seems like I had to go out of my way to find out what was going on once the specified date had elapsed. It would have been nice to have been notified of the additional delay.

On the flip side of that, how many other people are out there like me waiting that have already paid? It very well could be hundreds as far as I know. I only contacted them once the stated time had elapsed and I still felt like I was pestering them. I am rather patient but what about the people that are contacting them daily or maybe even hourly says "What's going on". I imagine the communication is just as frustrating for them as it was for me.

If you are having an issue getting a response for a new order, it maybe because they are trying to avoid any more complications from additional people. I'm sure the work load has greatly increase due to the shortage. I would give it a few days then try again if you have sent multiple messages.

I contacted them on the first of December and was told 3 more weeks so that's when I asked for the refund. I got a response back and I don't want to go into what they said but it sounds like the amps will be available very soon. This contradicts the 4 weeks from just a few posts back but Brian made it sounds like it would be much less then that.

I had contacted Seaton Sound between these two emails on the 1st and he told me I would have the Submersives in one day since I live so close to them. Again, I really wanted the Rythmiks but did not want to get another extended deadline. Have two better subs in one day or have two of my beloved Rythmik sometime in the future that may or may not be around 3 weeks?

I will say that communication was quick when I got in touch with them. They processed my refund quickly and I was rather happy with the overall demeanor when dealing with them. Neither one of us got short with each other and they were very apologetic over the whole thing.

I do not feel this experience has soured me towards the company. Unfortunately this is part of being a small company that supplies a niche product. They had some issues with a supplier and it's not like they could just go down the street and get the amps elsewhere. I will be buying 2 F15HP SE once this whole amp situation blows over. I plan on building a theater over the summer and will migrate the Submersives to that so the Rythmiks can have their rightful place in my audio set-up. I will just make sure they are in stock before I order.

Best of luck to all and hang in there. They will be coming soon enough and I am sure they will be worth it. I would have if I had placed my order later. Nearly 2 months anticipating high end subs was just to much for me. I was going to order the Submersive's over the summer anyways, I just ended up doing it backwards
post #4751 of 9709
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Originally Posted by trolly View Post

I was genuinely interested in the FV15HP and was going to buy either it or a PB12+ but the ongoing inability to get amps really worried me so I went the other way.

I completely understand why someone would not want to wait an indefinite number of months to purchase a sub, the whole waiting thing sucks but if you've previously heard the Rythmik and decided it was exactly what you wanted sound-wise then really you'd have no other choice because nothing else sounds like it... and of course the waiting would still suck... I hate waiting for stuff too! However if you've never listened to a Rythmik then I can see where one might finally choose to go with something else rather than wait it out. I'm really glad you got something that you're happy with.
post #4752 of 9709
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Originally Posted by polizzio View Post

Dave Matthews Band concert in Central Park, NY dvd 2003. One of my favorites.

Gotcha. I figured out that must be what you meant after you posted it. Have to confess to not being a DMB fan even while enjoying the Dead, SCI, Warren Haynes, and others in the genre. Even further out in left field is the likes of the stuff on this page:
http://frontpsych.com/2011/12/01/the...lbums-of-2011/
which I'm presently enjoying. Too bad it's only over my Altec Lansing 2.1 computer system and not a Rythmik...
post #4753 of 9709
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Originally Posted by monomer View Post

I completely understand why someone would not want to wait an indefinite number of months to purchase a sub, the whole waiting thing sucks but if you've previously heard the Rythmik and decided it was exactly what you wanted sound-wise then really you'd have no other choice because nothing else sounds like it... and of course the waiting would still suck... I hate waiting for stuff too! However if you've never listened to a Rythmik then I can see where one might finally choose to go with something else rather than wait it out. I'm really glad you got something that you're happy with.

Thanks monomer
post #4754 of 9709
Thanks everyone for the input. I guess I am leaning towards the E15 after I read more posts from Rythmik. The F15 or E15 has a larger driver and the THD should be lower than the F12 at the same spl.

F12

It was't exactly the F12 but was pretty close and that's the only 3rd party test on their sealed subs. Brian implied in earlier posts that the 15" had a lower THD, and so I guess at higher volume levels the E15 or F15 sounds better than the F12. Hope this help those who are in the same boat with me
post #4755 of 9709
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Originally Posted by monomer View Post

You cannot be serious here... have you actually had the opportunity to listen to a Rythmik that was properly integrated and within a 'tight' room? If you had I seriously doubt you'd have said that last thing there. Oh there may be other subs in the same price bracket with comparable 'measurements' but certainly not sounding the same.

I am still considering rythmik despite their communication problems because I can predict I will love their sound. During my journey to get the perfect speakers for my HT, both my wife and I realised that we loved neutral and natural sounding speakers. And this has something to do with the noise and THD, among other factors. I can see Brian has devoted a lot to minimize them. And I am pretty sure that their subwoofers are among the best for authentic bass reproduction in the same price range and this is what I am looking for.

I can't speak for everyone and yes some people prefer sound coloration but I don't.
post #4756 of 9709
I am looking at the F15 to replace my "aging" Paradigm PS1200. Even though the Paradigm is ported, will the F15 be equal or exceed the Paradigm in sound and output?

Jeff
post #4757 of 9709
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Originally Posted by pronghorn/az View Post

I am looking at the F15 to replace my "aging" Paradigm PS1200. Even though the Paradigm is ported, will the F15 be equal or exceed the Paradigm in sound and output?

Jeff

No one has ever said anything but the Rythmik has great SQ. The Rythmik subs don't have the highest output but it rocks my 33' x 27' room.

I am not familiar with your sub but I believe the Rythmik is a fine choice if accuracy and SQ is something you like.

Dave.
post #4758 of 9709
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Originally Posted by Topend View Post

No one has ever said anything but the Rythmik has great SQ. The Rythmik subs don't have the highest output but it rocks my 33' x 27' room.

I am not familiar with your sub but I believe the Rythmik is a fine choice if accuracy and SQ is something you like.

Dave.

My room is "CA style", meaning I have a open great room with cathedrial ceilings that go from 8' where the HT EQ is to 12' on the opposite side and my listening area is 12X14 with an open area that extends back another 20' from the listening area. I know some will scream that I need 2 or more subs, but with me being the only income with an ill better half I can't have my cake and eat it to.

Jeff
post #4759 of 9709
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Originally Posted by pronghorn/az View Post


My room is "CA style", meaning I have a open great room with cathedrial ceilings that go from 8' where the HT EQ is to 12' on the opposite side and my listening area is 12X14 with an open area that extends back another 20' from the listening area. I know some will scream that I need 2 or more subs, but with me being the only income with an ill better half I can't have my cake and eat it to.

Jeff

Two subs are better than one for best FR but one sub will do the job, I can attest to that with my large room.

I will get more subs in the future but I will wait until I have a dedicate HT room.

Enjoy your single sub.

Dave.
post #4760 of 9709
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Originally Posted by pronghorn/az View Post

listening area is 12X14 with an open area that extends back another 20' from the listening area. I know some will scream that I need 2 or more subs

People worry too much about room size and not enough about distance. There are some puported issues but I sometimes think they're just an excuse to sell more subwoofers.

I have no idea about your floorplan but if you sit close enough (~ 9 ft.) an reasonably positioned F12 will shake your body and deafen you.
post #4761 of 9709
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Originally Posted by pronghorn/az View Post

I am looking at the F15 to replace my "aging" Paradigm PS1200. Even though the Paradigm is ported, will the F15 be equal or exceed the Paradigm in sound and output?

Jeff

Given that that Paradigm is not the most powerful sub in the world, the F15 should be at least its equal in output. SQ should be no contest = F15 for the win. The F15 will also go deeper if that's important to you.
post #4762 of 9709
I sit appox 12' from my system. The Paradigm at times sounds good. But there's the question! I have not heard any other sub, except the one's in BB, does that count? So I really don't know what others are talking about when it comes to a quality sub with excellent sound and dig deeper, etc, etc... I will find out hopefully sooner!

Jeff
post #4763 of 9709
The first batch of air shipped H600 amps are on the way to here. ETA is mid next week. More amps will follow.
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post #4764 of 9709
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Originally Posted by Rythmik View Post

The first batch of air shipped H600 amps are on the way to here. ETA is mid next week. More amps will follow.

Good news Brian. Is this enough to fulfil your back orders or sufficient to satisfy new orders as well i have been waiting for a while now to place orders for the CI kit.
post #4765 of 9709
Hi guys, I currently have the SVS PC12-NSD but I'm thinking of upgrading to the F15HP. Would this be a significant upgrade? I'm especially worried about the lower frequencies, because I hear that sealed subs don't do lower frequencies as good as a ported one. This is why I want the powerful 15" model so it will have the clean and punchy sound but also go down low with authority as well. How good would the F15HP be in the low frequencies when compared to my PC12-NSD? Also, what would the F15HP be comparable to in SVS's line up?
post #4766 of 9709
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Originally Posted by Slickman View Post

Hi guys, I currently have the SVS PC12-NSD but I'm thinking of upgrading to the F15HP. Would this be a significant upgrade? I'm especially worried about the lower frequencies, because I hear that sealed subs don't do lower frequencies as good as a ported one. This is why I want the powerful 15" model so it will have the clean and punchy sound but also go down low with authority as well. How good would the F15HP be in the low frequencies when compared to my PC12-NSD? Also, what would the F15HP be comparable to in SVS's line up?

Are you aware of this model.?

Based on your requirements, It seems a better fit for those requirements:
http://www.rythmikaudio.com/FV15.html
post #4767 of 9709
Yes I am, I want sealed though.
post #4768 of 9709
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Originally Posted by Rythmik View Post

The first batch of air shipped H600 amps are on the way to here. ETA is mid next week. More amps will follow.

That's really good news Brian, I'm sure you're somewhat de-stressing now. And that's certainly good news for your many customers. Now you can get back to the business of selling and assembling your subs and not stressing over component stock issues. I think your customers will soon find out it was definitely worth the wait.
post #4769 of 9709
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Originally Posted by tigerstripe View Post

Rythmik owners, may I know how you guys contact Rythmik for support and to make a purchase?

I am interested in their subwoofers and I've sent 5 to 6 messages to Rythmik via their webform and through PM here. It has been over 12 days since my 1st email and they never answered my questions. They only sent a single brief response to one of my followup emails last week but never responded to any of my simple questions regarding their subwoofers except asking me to email them 3 weeks later to place an order (!). No further reply is heard despite my followup emails. With none of my simple questions addressed how am I suppose to proceed to just send them payment 3 weeks later???

Did you guys contact Rythmik solely by phone? Or, does this company sell the products "as is" and no support of any sort will be offered? Am I just contacting the wrong company (as Rythmik seems to focus on selling parts and custom installation kits for experienced DIYers)?

I had the same problem, brian never answer my question or at least not clearly. And it was back and forth with a few PM that took a few days.
I ended up contacting with ascend even though i paid more on shipping, but it was worth it with Dave service and attention.
There is a good alternative, HSU!
By the way tiger, im from your neighbord Macau.
post #4770 of 9709
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Originally Posted by Slickman View Post

Hi guys, I currently have the SVS PC12-NSD but I'm thinking of upgrading to the F15HP. Would this be a significant upgrade? I'm especially worried about the lower frequencies, because I hear that sealed subs don't do lower frequencies as good as a ported one. This is why I want the powerful 15" model so it will have the clean and punchy sound but also go down low with authority as well. How good would the F15HP be in the low frequencies when compared to my PC12-NSD? Also, what would the F15HP be comparable to in SVS's line up?

F15HP is probably closest to an SB13 plus. Also in the same class is the HSU ULS-15 if looking at sealed subs. Having said this, I love my F15 so would go for the F15HP if choosing between these.
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