Official Rythmik Audio Subwoofer thread - Page 292

PM sent Brian. The post office won't be of any help. DHL does mostly International packaging (some domestic as well but has weight restrictions like UPS and FedEx). FedEx Freight is a good option.

Jeff

Check out yellow for LTL shipments. I used to work in logistics and they typically had the best rates (although FedEx freight can always go lower because of the size of their operation - you just have to work with a sales rep and ask them to beat yellow's best price).

Yes. I assumed a crossover low enough with ihgh enough slope to be below the localization frequency for the listener, but you know what they say about "assume"...

Can someone please link to a SPL measurements for the LV12R? I haven't been able to find any.

-- jaydillyo

Errrr, I ordered mine last Friday and haven't heard anything back from anyone, with any information except Paypal. I even sent an email this morning asking for an update and received nothing yet?

Trigger pulled. I ordered one today after asking a rythmik audio tech support a few questions. Can't wait to get it. I have been subless since my mfw-15 died.

-- jaydillyo

+1. I always ship Vintage Drums via FedEx, and have never had a single drum damaged. Cheaper the UPS, too.

Awesome man, post some pics when you get it!
I am also an ex MFW-15 owner and those have sold several months ago. I am waiting for the new L12 coming up soon. Hopefully it won't be too long

Does this mean that we can begin to froth at the mouth about the new F25HP and the DIY F25HP (CI HP dual 15" driver) kits?

Cool. I see the dual driver based F25 has a price posted.

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Edited by BeeMan458 - 3/21/13 at 2:56pm

Who wins output wise?

2 LVR12's or 1 FV15HP?

I am pretty sure one FV15HP is going to have a lot more output than two FV12rs.

Not arguing but based on what metric?

That is, for two LV12R subs, with a three to six dB co-location room gain due to using two, 300w RMS amplifiers in separate corner based locations vs a single, corner located FV15HP, capable of 600w RMS.

If I had to lay a bet, it would be on two LV12R's winning an overall SPL contest; flat room FR graph and at least equal dB output and expectedly, the two LV12R's will have the flatter FR graph for a given room acoustical condition.

So, in my ignorant opinion, if a contest were to ensue, two LV12R's vs one FV15HP, I'd have to go with two LV12R's being the more capable choice.

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Edited by BeeMan458 - 3/21/13 at 10:57am

dbl post

Does that mean I lost my bet or in "Black Jack" terms, it was a push? The reason I ask, based on my understanding of how things work, due to the room smoothing two subwoofers provide over the benefit of one subwoofer, the overall edge goes to a pair of LV12R's over that of a single FV15HP for efficiency of bass sound reproduction..

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Edited by BeeMan458 - 3/21/13 at 11:02am

The reason I ask is because I already have one LV12R and was thinking of possibly adding a second to satisfy my craving for bass.

If it helps, there's no question, in our case, a third sub will help our room acoustics and the integration of our subwoofer system into our room's acoustics.. In your case, the addition of a second sub will help with your overall response but without room measuring capability, you'll be limited regarding your ability to integrate a second subwoofer into your system due to reinforcement/cancellation issues.

So there will be no advantage to adding a second LV12R? No increase in SPL?

Any time you add a second sub that's the same as the one you have you will gain extra db. If you were to say stack one on top of the other you gain around 6db or if you had one located say one in each corner of your front area you gain around 4db.

Thank you sir for the intel. I figured there had to be some sort of advantage.

You will definitely get an increase in SPL at certain frequencies. The amount will depend on placement and your room. If two subs are co-located (stacked or placed next to each other), you should expect about a 6db increase across all frequencies. From what I have read, two subs will essentially act as a single source when located within 1/4 wavelength of each other. For frequencies above that, you may get more or less than 6db.

I have seen many posts saying you get average of a 3db or 4db increase when adding a second non-colocated sub to a room, but have never seen any evidence of this. The measurements I have seen show that you do not get a steady increase across all frequencies and I don't think talking about an "average" increase is beneficial.

Look at this example. There is about a 6db gain for everything below 40hz. At 50hz, there is a 10db gain, at 60hz there is a couble db decrease and above that even more variance.

http://www.data-bass.com/data?page=content&id=80


Brian already covered the differences between 2 LV12Rs and 1 FV15HP. If a smooth FR, especially across multiple seats, is important, dual LV12Rs are potentially better. If you want more output, especially below 20hz or want the built in PEQ, the FV15HP is better.

-Mike

My placement options are endless. No WAF as this is basically a large bedroom I have converted to my personal home theater. The main listening position is about 12 feet from the sub currently. As you can see from the pic I can put a sub on each side of my towers or stack them.

OMG that is an incredible price. Very Well done Brian, hope you have stock ready to go. These are going to fly I think.

"Available in honey oak vinyl or black oak vinyl"

picture of honey oak vinyl por favor????

My guess is it would look similar to the finish on the F12G, only a lot more of it.

That's seems to be an awful lot of subwoofer for the money.

Hum, cool. Cheaper than fv15se. Maybe I should replace my dual fv15se for these two. My wife is going to kill me for this. Hope this idea will pass WAF.

Thanks Jim, That's called Honey Oak so I think you are exactly correct.I like it very much.

Yeah F25 looks like an incredible value. I had some price predictions in my head but this is definitely much better. It is an intro price and looks like it'll go up at some point. I think he did 5 weeks for the LV12R, The 5th being the super awesome guy add on from the original 4 planned for some on the fence folks.

New awesome sub hits the market, schweet. Now who's going to put one of these in the same room as an XS-30 and run some measurements for us? I agree that looks like a lot of sub for that number. Brian Rox. I think this is going to jump right into the market share quick.

Go start an announcement thread for us. Better you then me. I'm a little Rythmik Love tainted, The dual FV15HPs are persuasive.