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post #8941 of 15240
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Originally Posted by nemoreborn View Post

what size is your room ?? i was thingking getting one of those , but with my friend telling em hes waiting the E serie from JL next month , ill wait to listen the E112 before buying anything

I don't know nemoreborn, for the same price as the JL E112 you could get a Rythmik F25! I would have to think dollar for dollar the F25 would top a E112.
post #8942 of 15240
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Originally Posted by nemoreborn View Post

what size is your room ?? i was thingking getting one of those , but with my friend telling em hes waiting the E serie from JL next month , ill wait to listen the E112 before buying anything

Approx 25x20x8 feet (living/dining/kitchen). It's a condo.
post #8943 of 15240
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Originally Posted by jbrown15 View Post

I don't know nemoreborn, for the same price as the JL E112 you could get a Rythmik F25! I would have to think dollar for dollar the F25 would top a E112.

how can you get a f25 when they wont ship them? if your driving to texas pick me one up too biggrin.gif
post #8944 of 15240
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Originally Posted by kma100 View Post

Approx 25x20x8 feet (living/dining/kitchen). It's a condo.

The E112 may ultimately turn out to be a great sub, but it will be overmatched by your room I'm afraid. No single 12" acoustic suspension subwoofer will be able to do much with 4000 ft^3.
post #8945 of 15240
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Originally Posted by basshead81 View Post

well im not going the rythmik route(atleast as of now). not to happy with the customer service at all. i have been chatting with enercio back and fourth and we just cant not make a deal. after going back and fourth over the options i decided the 1 f25 is the best option for my 2 k budget instead of dual f15's, simply because it will have the most out put on the smallest foot print. however enercio said they can not ship f25's at this time due to the weight. i said well pull the drivers out and ship it seperately. he declined the offer....all i can say is the economy must be good in texas because around here most companies will bend a bit to make a 1500.00 sale. rythmik didnt seem to care if they sold me a sub or not...so back to shopping around i go.

What you could do is buy the F25 as a DIY kit (if Rythmik offers it), and have a cabinet maker in your area build you one.
post #8946 of 15240
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Originally Posted by JimWilson View Post

The E112 may ultimately turn out to be a great sub, but it will be overmatched by your room I'm afraid. No single 12" acoustic suspension subwoofer will be able to do much with 4000 ft^3.

I have the F15HP not the E12. Perhaps you were answering someone else's question?
post #8947 of 15240
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Originally Posted by BDP24 View Post

What you could do is buy the F25 as a DIY kit (if Rythmik offers it), and have a cabinet maker in your area build you one.

Excellent idea! Most decent lumberyards (the kind that sell exotic woods) have CNC machines that will do a precise job of cutting and may even assemble it also! smile.gif
post #8948 of 15240
I've been thinking about an F25 kit as well. Does Rythmik provide cabinet plans for a DIY F25? Also, does anyone know of a good place to cut the wood for one in the Los Angeles area?
post #8949 of 15240
I don't understand why they cant ship the F25?? Heck the PSA XV-30 is just as big and they even offer free shipping.
post #8950 of 15240
It's not a simple matter to safely ship subs that large. The XV30 is a different type of sub, its probably a lot easier to ship because it is likely shipped facing down with a plate to protect it's drivers. It isn't likely to be turned on its side or upside down during shipping. They would just throw it in a box and put it on a pallet. And of course PSA doesn't really offer free shipping. The shipping is built into the price.
post #8951 of 15240
Wait, Brian won't ship a F25? It's basically the same design as a SubMersive F2 and a Captivator S2 and there's no problems getting either of those subs shipped out.

That's funny, if you go to the webpage and add a F25 to you cart it shows that Brian will ship it.
Holy cow though $360 for shipping.
Edited by jbrown15 - 3/31/13 at 9:06pm
post #8952 of 15240
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Originally Posted by JimWilson View Post

The E112 may ultimately turn out to be a great sub, but it will be overmatched by your room I'm afraid. No single 12" acoustic suspension subwoofer will be able to do much with 4000 ft^3.

dunno what will be the sub's performance , but i heard close of the f113 and the f113 can deal with 4000cuft room easy , i heard it yesterday .
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Originally Posted by kma100 View Post

I have the F15HP not the E12. Perhaps you were answering someone else's question?

the e112 si the new JL sub ...


and about the f25 , rythmik told me they could ship .. expensive but they could .....
post #8953 of 15240
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Originally Posted by jbrown15 View Post

I don't know nemoreborn, for the same price as the JL E112 you could get a Rythmik F25! I would have to think dollar for dollar the F25 would top a E112.


well , the e112 is suposed to be 1500$ .. and i can no pay the taxes ... so flat 1500$ .. the f25 is like 2100$ shipped at my place ...

ill wait and see till they receive it so i can listen ... i dont plan to have a room really over 3000cuft in the near future so , i guess e112 can deal with it easy .
post #8954 of 15240
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Originally Posted by kma100 View Post

I have the F15HP not the E12. Perhaps you were answering someone else's question?

i still wonder how the f15hp performance are compared to the sb13-ultra and JL f112/113
post #8955 of 15240
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Originally Posted by shadyJ View Post

It's not a simple matter to safely ship subs that large. The XV30 is a different type of sub, its probably a lot easier to ship because it is likely shipped facing down with a plate to protect it's drivers. It isn't likely to be turned on its side or upside down during shipping. They would just throw it in a box and put it on a pallet. And of course PSA doesn't really offer free shipping. The shipping is built into the price.

ok so why list it on your website, allow a customer to add it to the cart, go to check out, then say sorry we can no longer ship that item? when it comes to shipping its all about weight. wheather the box is 3ft tall and 160lbs or 3ft wide and 160lbs should make no difference.
post #8956 of 15240
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Originally Posted by jbrown15 View Post

Wait, Brian won't ship a F25? It's basically the same design as a SubMersive F2 and a Captivator S2 and there's no problems getting either of those subs shipped out.

That's funny, if you go to the webpage and add a F25 to you cart it shows that Brian will ship it.
Holy cow though $360 for shipping.

nope or atleast his rep(enercio) will not... I tried to buy one and got denied.
post #8957 of 15240
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Originally Posted by nemoreborn View Post

dunno what will be the sub's performance , but i heard close of the f113 and the f113 can deal with 4000cuft room easy , i heard it yesterday ..

As a general manner, without taking into consideration anything else about your room/setup, what Jim said was correct: A 12" sealed sub is going to have a hard time filling a >4000cf^3 room with bass. It is just physics. This is doubly true if you do not have the options to place the sub nearfield, listen at high SPLs and/or am wanting to produce realistic HT bass in the room.

AFAIK, there has been no direct comparison in terms of output performance between the F113 & the E112, thus a comparison of the subs in different rooms doesn't cut it simply but saying the performance is 'close'. 'Close' could mean 6dB+ advantage to the F113 at every frequency which would make a huge difference.
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Originally Posted by nemoreborn View Post

ill wait and see till they receive it so i can listen ... i dont plan to have a room really over 3000cuft in the near future so , i guess e112 can deal with it easy .

Without knowing your goals, it is hard to know what you are expecting in terms of performance out of the E112, so it is hard to offer much advice.

I am truly not wanting to put down your choices/preferences, just trying to gauge what you're expecting out of the E112 and/or something similar.
post #8958 of 15240
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Originally Posted by nemoreborn View Post

i still wonder how the f15hp performance are compared to the sb13-ultra and JL f112/113

I know this is the Rythmik thread and I don't want to rock the build or ruffle any feathers but why not consider something from Funk Audio?
The 15.0 or 15.3 shouldn't have any trouble putting up just as good if not better performance then the E112 and they're Canadian and the shipping is included in the price.
post #8959 of 15240
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Originally Posted by jbrown15 View Post

I know this is the Rythmik thread and I don't want to rock the build or ruffle any feathers but why not consider something from Funk Audio?
The 15.0 or 15.3 shouldn't have any trouble putting up just as good if not better performance then the E112 and they're Canadian and the shipping is included in the price.

basicly because im not fine with the fact of buying a funk audio 15'' sub with 500rms amp ..for 1750$

when i could buy a rythmil sub 15'' sealed f15hp for 1700$ shipping at my place .. or a fv15hp for 1818$ ,,, when also all those sub have plenty of feedback and review compared to the funk audio ...

or a E112 from JL for 1500$ that i could actualy listen before buying it .
post #8960 of 15240
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Originally Posted by basshead81 View Post

I don't understand why they cant ship the F25?? Heck the PSA XV-30 is just as big and they even offer free shipping.
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Originally Posted by basshead81 View Post

nope or atleast his rep(enercio) will not... I tried to buy one and got denied.





he F25 is huge. If you have the space, go for it. The shipping is expensive, $450 (with no brokerage and taxes) or $780 (with brokerage and taxes).

Best Regards,

Enrico Castagnetti
Rythmik Audio - Tech Support ( this is from my email )
post #8961 of 15240
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Originally Posted by nemoreborn View Post


he F25 is huge. If you have the space, go for it. The shipping is expensive, $450 (with no brokerage and taxes) or $780 (with brokerage and taxes).

Best Regards,

Enrico Castagnetti
Rythmik Audio - Tech Support ( this is from my email )
I emailed back and fourth with enrico 3days ago and they wont ship the sub. how old is your email?
post #8962 of 15240
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Originally Posted by Eldave View Post

I've been thinking about an F25 kit as well. Does Rythmik provide cabinet plans for a DIY F25? Also, does anyone know of a good place to cut the wood for one in the Los Angeles area?

Funny you should ask---I just got my pair of cabs yesterday (Saturday the 31st.). A fellow AVS member contacted me after seeing some postings I did on the AVS DIY site. I sent him my cabinet design (drawn out at half-scale on graph paper), he made some improvements to it and emailed in back to me for comment and approval, and quoted me a price for materials and labor. We discussed MDF vs. Baltic Birch Plywood, bracing, etc. We finalized the design, he picked up the MDF I requested (highly refined---80lbs. per 4' X 8' sheet!---by Plum Creek), and cut all of the parts with his table saw, CNC, router, etc. We arranged for me to come to his home shop to pick up the cabs. He had one fully dry assembled, and showed me the best way to assemble it. The drivers and plate amps are flush-mounted in recesses, and he cut dado and rabbet grooves, so it is easy to assemble and the whole thing locks together really tightly. The MDF and his labor cost me less than the difference between the Rythmik F15HP and the DIY kit version of same. Of course, you'll need some clamps and woodglue, a drill, etc., and you'll need to do your own finish (paint, veneer, etc.), but if you're not intimidated by cabinet assembly (and if you are, he will assemble it for you too) you can get, as I did, the exact cabinet(s) you want. If you don't have a design in mind, give him the cu.ft. volume and basic form you want, and let him design it for you). His name is Joel Blauvelt, email joel.blauvelt@gmail.com, and he is in Granada Hills, just off the 118 Freeway, in the SF Valley.
Edited by BDP24 - 4/1/13 at 6:05am
post #8963 of 15240
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Originally Posted by nemoreborn View Post

basicly because im not fine with the fact of buying a funk audio 15'' sub with 500rms amp ..for 1750$

when i could buy a rythmil sub 15'' sealed f15hp for 1700$ shipping at my place .. or a fv15hp for 1818$ ,,, when also all those sub have plenty of feedback and review compared to the funk audio ...

or a E112 from JL for 1500$ that i could actualy listen before buying it .

The pricing is very similar from what you're describing, and depending on the model you might be getting better finish with the funk... the Canadian border makes the funk audio competitive IMO. But good point on the reviews. FWIW I'm in Canada but near the bordr so had my FV15HP shipped near the border and went to get it myself. Had to pay tax but saved a lot on the cross border shipping. And I couldn;t be happier with the sub even without proper setup being done yet.
post #8964 of 15240
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Originally Posted by basshead81 View Post

I emailed back and fourth with enrico 3days ago and they wont ship the sub. how old is your email?

basshead---The guy you asked how long ago he got an email from Enrico is.....Enrico!
post #8965 of 15240
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Originally Posted by Jaykuul View Post

My LV12R just arrived yesterday, thanks!

Holy mon, this thing is huge but it is beautiful and strong! Didn't realize the dimensions were opposite of what I wanted, wish I could put it on it side so its not so tall?

Anyone else have an opinion on this important question, please?
post #8966 of 15240
^^ should be fine.
post #8967 of 15240
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Originally Posted by BDP24 View Post

basshead---The guy you asked how long ago he got an email from Enrico is.....Enrico!

LOL I thought it was somebody posting a email from him. /tarded
post #8968 of 15240
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Originally Posted by nemoreborn View Post

dunno what will be the sub's performance , but i heard close of the f113 and the f113 can deal with 4000cuft room easy , i heard it yesterday .

Heard it from whom? The E112 hasn't even shipped yet, so it's hard to imagine you obtained that info from someone with practical experience.

As far as something that small pressurizing 4000 ft^3 goes? Give it a shot, but when you find out it can't just don't say you weren't warned. Make sure you buy from a place that will accept returns...
post #8969 of 15240
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Originally Posted by JimWilson View Post

Heard it from whom? The E112 hasn't even shipped yet, so it's hard to imagine you obtained that info from someone with practical experience.

As far as something that small pressurizing 4000 ft^3 goes? Give it a shot, but when you find out it can't just don't say you weren't warned. Make sure you buy from a place that will accept returns...


u made me wonder , i called the shop where i heard the F113 and he told me the room is 3100 ftcu!!! so yea maybe it cant deal with 4000 , but with 3000 it was doing pretty good ! ... but like i said on other post , im not shopping for a sub capable of large room ... i wont ever get a room over 3000ftcu , probly more like 2000-2500


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Originally Posted by BDP24 View Post

basshead---The guy you asked how long ago he got an email from Enrico is.....Enrico!



dunno what made the miss understood , but no im not Enrico !!! i just posted the email i got from him ... and to answer the question , the email is maybe 7 days old.
post #8970 of 15240
Sounds perfect! Thanks!!!!

[Sorry, to clarify this is in response to BDP24's post about DIY cabinet maker, about nine comments earlier]
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