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post #9841 of 15139
^^^ I have 2 FV15hp in a similar room.
As far as sizing of the FV15 (if that direction is more to your liking) you would want to check with Jim Salk of Salksound.com. He does a custom Rythmik sub for a little more money or you could build your own.
post #9842 of 15139
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Originally Posted by AMG_Roadster View Post

  • Add a second F15 ~6' from the existing sub.
  • Purchase an FV15HP. The potential issue with this option is that instead of driver facing the seating position it would have face into a piece of furniture (sideboard or buffet) facing parallel to the seating position. This sub is just too deep for where I need it. If it was wider and or taller it would work for me

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You may want to also look at the F25, it is taller than the FV15HP but saves you ~3" in depth. If you go with the FV15P, I think you would want some clearance between the front ports and any furniture.
post #9843 of 15139
I will check with Salksound as an option.

The F25 is an option. I would like to see a review and better see how it compares to the FV15HP. I am also curious how the f25 stacks up against 2 f15's. I very, very rarely get a chance to listen near reference levels.
Edited by AMG_Roadster - 6/17/13 at 6:55pm
post #9844 of 15139
I just ordered an F25 myself, so I will put up a review once I get it installed and dialed in. I've never heard the FV15HP in person though, so a direct comparison will still be lacking.
post #9845 of 15139
I would choose the second sub as it offers the potential of placement to reduce room modes due to sound wave interaction that may much improve the bass. It will also provide more output, but that does not seem to be an issue.

Have you (or someone) measured your response at the listening position? If you turn the sub's gain up (trim control on your AVR or gain knob on the back of the sub) does it help?
post #9846 of 15139
What are the advantages and disadvantages of a FV15HP vs F15?
post #9847 of 15139
How far does LV12R have to be away from wall dues to rear port ?
I'm thinking about putting it into a corner or hiding it halfway into a wall so it doesn't stick out that much.
post #9848 of 15139
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Originally Posted by DonH50 View Post

I would choose the second sub as it offers the potential of placement to reduce room modes due to sound wave interaction that may much improve the bass. It will also provide more output, but that does not seem to be an issue.

Have you (or someone) measured your response at the listening position? If you turn the sub's gain up (trim control on your AVR or gain knob on the back of the sub) does it help?

I have turned up the gain as much as while keeping the driver from over driving. I need to check the damping to see if I can turn the gain up a bit more. Adjusting the gain did helped I just am looking for more.

I measured the response when I first purchased the system but do not remember the performance and no longer have the file (computer crash). I just purchased a set of wide speakers so will be running Audessy again.
post #9849 of 15139
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Originally Posted by sumik View Post

How far does LV12R have to be away from wall dues to rear port ?

I had it less than a foot away and it seemed to work quite well.

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Originally Posted by sumik View Post

I'm thinking about putting it into a corner or hiding it halfway into a wall so it doesn't stick out that much.

Putting it in a corner should be fine -- could get boomy if it's not placed correctly though -- but the "hiding it halfway into a wall" sounds like a bad idea. The port shouldn't be restricted in that manner.
post #9850 of 15139
Does anyone have any ideas / recommendation on the best way to get a piano gloss white f12?

I've thought about trying to go the DIY route, but after reading extensively about how to get a piano finish I'm pretty certain I'm not capable of it.

Any ideas would be really appreciated, thanks in advance.
post #9851 of 15139
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Originally Posted by Rythmik View Post

Not many customers have these. It takes me 3 times as much time to assemble on F25 vs one F15. It is just too heavy to handle.

Sound wise, it is similar to our sealed subs. It is very clean and articulate. You also get to hear a lot of details. The ampliifer modules are class-D Hypex modules. These class-D modules sound very clean and are really good match with our servo technology. ICEpower (from a competing company) is also good, but unfortunately, the supplier company does not allow us to modify the circuit to add servo feedback.

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What about SpeakerPower or Abletec amp for an F25HP?
post #9852 of 15139
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Originally Posted by menglish6 View Post

Does anyone have any ideas / recommendation on the best way to get a piano gloss white f12?

I've thought about trying to go the DIY route, but after reading extensively about how to get a piano finish I'm pretty certain I'm not capable of it.

Any ideas would be really appreciated, thanks in advance.

Ask Brian about custom finishes. If not, try a local cabinet maker or auto paint shop.
post #9853 of 15139
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Originally Posted by AMG_Roadster View Post

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Originally Posted by DonH50 View Post

I would choose the second sub as it offers the potential of placement to reduce room modes due to sound wave interaction that may much improve the bass. It will also provide more output, but that does not seem to be an issue.

Have you (or someone) measured your response at the listening position? If you turn the sub's gain up (trim control on your AVR or gain knob on the back of the sub) does it help?

I have turned up the gain as much as while keeping the driver from over driving. I need to check the damping to see if I can turn the gain up a bit more. Adjusting the gain did helped I just am looking for more.

I measured the response when I first purchased the system but do not remember the performance and no longer have the file (computer crash). I just purchased a set of wide speakers so will be running Audessy again.

Sounds like you want a lot of bass... You may have trouble matching a vented and non-vented sub as the response curves are different. I also wonder if you are sitting in a null, and/or simply prefer a much higher bass level than flat (no problem with that, you know what you like). You might put something bass-heavy on and move around a bit to see if the sound changes dramatically a little away from your usual listening position.
post #9854 of 15139
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Originally Posted by menglish6 View Post

Does anyone have any ideas / recommendation on the best way to get a piano gloss white f12?

I've thought about trying to go the DIY route, but after reading extensively about how to get a piano finish I'm pretty certain I'm not capable of it.

Any ideas would be really appreciated, thanks in advance.

As a custom builder, Salk could do it (they custom build Rythmik subs as well as speakers).

http://www.salksound.com/salkrythmik%20-%20home.htm
post #9855 of 15139
Out of Office from June 30 to July 10

We will not be able to ship anything during this period of time. I am off to visit my suppliers and the other employee is also taking a vacation. I can still answer email.
post #9856 of 15139
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Originally Posted by DonH50 View Post

Sounds like you want a lot of bass... You may have trouble matching a vented and non-vented sub as the response curves are different. I also wonder if you are sitting in a null, and/or simply prefer a much higher bass level than flat (no problem with that, you know what you like). You might put something bass-heavy on and move around a bit to see if the sound changes dramatically a little away from your usual listening position.

If I were to add another sub it would be another sealed sub for just the reason you mentioned. If I were to replace it then the ported sub comes into play.

I am looking for the extra bass when the HT is in play. When listening to music I have no complaints with the current output levels of the sub.
post #9857 of 15139
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Originally Posted by AMG_Roadster View Post

If I were to add another sub it would be another sealed sub for just the reason you mentioned. If I were to replace it then the ported sub comes into play.

I am looking for the extra bass when the HT is in play. When listening to music I have no complaints with the current output levels of the sub.

You can do the following to minimize the phase difference between sealed and our ported sub. In the F15, put the rumble filter on and leave the extension to 14hz and whatever damping. On the FV15, use the 1 port mode. This method is to minimize the phase delay on ported sub and at the same time add more phase delay to the sealed sub so that the two can have close phase response towards the bottom end (so that you don't get cancellation).
post #9858 of 15139
Hi Brian,

Any plans of improving the HPF filter like using a better OP amp, variable HPF fllter and HPF slope for the 2 channel crowd ?
Edited by qguy - 6/21/13 at 6:25am
post #9859 of 15139
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Originally Posted by AMG_Roadster View Post

I will check with Salksound as an option.

The F25 is an option. I would like to see a review and better see how it compares to the FV15HP. I am also curious how the f25 stacks up against 2 f15's. I very, very rarely get a chance to listen near reference levels.



My two 600 watt f25's and my two 370 watt PEQ 2 f15's sound identical . Of course the f25's have more output ,however i've never needed all the power at a given time The f25's at the front and the f15's at the back. See my profile pictures. Can't post pictures with my iPad , have to do it from my PC. Room is definitely pressurized. I do listen to movies at reference level, and music at around -7db to -3db with my JTR speakers. The rythmiks keep up beautifully .
post #9860 of 15139
Hi Brian ,& Rythmik.
I have the 600 watt f25's, besides power what am i missing compared to the dual amp newer f25.
post #9861 of 15139
One thing I keep thinking is: I REALLY like the DS1510 driver, and it is available only in the F15HP and the FV15HP. You can upgrade an F15 with the other one-piece-coned driver, the DS1505, but the DS1510 is available mated with the 600W amp exclusively. At least, I think that's the case. The redesigned F25 comes with a pair of DS1501 drivers. I, myself, would rather have one DS1510 driver than two DS1501's or even 1505's. But that's just me---Brian gives you the option.
Edited by BDP24 - 6/21/13 at 2:54am
post #9862 of 15139
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Originally Posted by dragonleepenn View Post

Hi Brian ,& Rythmik.
I have the 600 watt f25's, besides power what am i missing compared to the dual amp newer f25.

The difference between the old and new F25 is subtle. The basic physics hasn't chagnge.

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Originally Posted by BDP24 View Post

One thing I keep thinking is: I REALLY like the DS1510 driver, and it is available only in the F15HP and the FV15HP. You can upgrade an F15 with the other one-piece-coned driver, the DS1505, but the DS1510 is available mated with the 600W amp exclusively. At least, I think that's the case. The redesigned F25 comes with a pair of DS1501 drivers. I, myself, would rather have one DS1510 driver than two DS1501's or even 1505's. But that's just me---Brian gives you the option.

All of those drivers are aluminum cone and hence all very articulate. Two DS1501 will have more output than single DS1510. The trade-off is two DS1501 will need larger enclosure. DS1510 is really nice and we have more customers order F15HP than F15. So we may plan to phase out F15 (but still offer DS1501 in CI). This will help us to cut down the number of models.
post #9863 of 15139
Any plans on releasing a ported 12" that is somewhere between the LV12r and Fv15hp pricing? It seems like there is potential there in the $800 range. Maybe a higher end driver than the current LV12r? 400-450watt rms?
post #9864 of 15139
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Originally Posted by Jimbo85281 View Post

Any plans on releasing a ported 12" that is somewhere between the LV12r and Fv15hp pricing? It seems like there is potential there in the $800 range. Maybe a higher end driver than the current LV12r? 400-450watt rms?

+1

That would be an awsome option. I almost we. nt with Psa xv15 instead of rythmik because I couldn't afford the fv15hp but thought the lv12r might leave me wanting more. With thar being said I do "want" more but definitely don't NEED more. The lv12r is an amazing value at 550 shipped. Also it is a solid performer that excited expectations
post #9865 of 15139
Thought you guys might like to see this.


~320 lbs of Rythmik goodness. Dual F25 w/upgraded drivers to DS1510.


$5 at Home Depot. Highly recommended. Two people can unload these without a problem.


Came with nice furniture moving pads for sliding around on carpet.


Unboxing directions. It was surprisingly easy to handle them (one person).


Included Amp guide, enclosure feet, and power cord.


Getting set up.


Situated nicely.


Don't ask questions, just buy one. So easy to use, very effective.


Ready to go!


They get along very, very well.


"There is no such thing as overkill, only headroom"
- Abraham Lincoln

Thanks to Brian and Enrico for the stellar subs. I know they are super busy at Rythmik, but these were worth the wait. Initial impressions: as expected, they are amazing. Incredibly articulate, subtle, explosive, percussive, and tactile all at the same time. Helicopter blades are my new favorite thing (Opening scene of Transformers 1). And kettle drums. Should be the last subs I ever need.
Edited by jonnyozero3 - 6/22/13 at 11:55am
post #9866 of 15139
Can someone tell me if it would be better to use a LV12r by itself, or use it WITH my older Velodyne 200watt 12" sub (DPS-12). I guess what I'm asking is whether or not the Velodyne, being a very average sub, would actually hurt the overall bass performance because of its limitations.
post #9867 of 15139
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Originally Posted by jonnyozero3 View Post

Thanks to Brian and Enrico for the stellar subs. I know they are super busy at Rythmik, but these were worth the wait. Initial impressions: as expected, they are amazing. Incredibly articulate, subtle, explosive, percussive, and tactile all at the same time. Helicopter blades are my new favorite thing (Opening scene of Transformers 1). And kettle drums. Should be the last subs I ever need.

Thanks for the photos of your nice setup. I can also attest that Ascend Towers / Horizon with RAAL tweeters and Rythmik sealed subs are a great match. Any comments from Brian regarding using DS1510s with H800XLR3 amps (400W per driver vs 600W for H600PEQ3 in F15HP) and with F25's internal volume?
post #9868 of 15139
Good reason why internet porn should be illegal. tongue.gif

Women, don't let your men gaze upon such tempting beauty.
post #9869 of 15139
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Originally Posted by jonnyozero3 View Post

Should be the last subs I ever need.

Riiiight... biggrin.gif

Nice setup though. Guess the neighbors will be stopping by a lot now, eh?
post #9870 of 15139
I'm jelouse! I pretty much have a little cousin to your system which I'm happy with but I bet yours is amazing!
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