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post #1201 of 1261
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Originally Posted by gostan View Post

I spent some time yesterday at my Anthem Dealer's and he and I did some time listening/viewing between the MRX700 and a AVM40/MCA5 pair of separates. Speakers were Paradigm Studios. The 700 was new out of the box and probably still needs some breaking in/burn in time, but we were both greatly impressed with the 700.

That you were impressed only means that the MRX met or even exceeded your expectations. But we don't know what your expectations were to start with. So could you please be a bit more precise in your comparison? How did the MRX compare to the separates exactly? Thanks!
post #1202 of 1261
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Originally Posted by Noxdowne View Post

I just bought the MRX300 this morning or I should say I put a deposit on one as Audio Ark in Edmonton didn't have stock yet.

Should be here in 2 weeks, which is right when my theater room is done.

I can't wait.

Jeff

p/s I'm using it as a pre-pro

MRX won't be in production for a couple of weeks as software and hardware are being finalized. Add at least a week for production, another few days for independent QC, a few MP reference samples air shipped to us for final approval (another week assuming no issues), then around 30 days on the water to Vancouver, then anywhere from two days to two weeks for customs clearance, then truck or rail to Mississauga, easily a week, then practically a return trip to Alberta... I guess by now it's clear it ain't gonna be two weeks.

For MRX 500/700 a pretty big load was air shipped from China after independent QC to speed up initial orders. I have no idea whether this will happen for the 300. The reality is that due to its margin an air shipment may be out of the question.
post #1203 of 1261
nooooooooooooooo

looks like it'll be january before it hits the shelves in toronto.
post #1204 of 1261
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Originally Posted by TKO1 View Post

Has anyone done any ARC testing to restrict the highest frequency of the default correction range to a lower frequency (e.g. 500Hz)

We tried various things and found the best overall result to be what's there. Of course, the overrides are provided anyway, just in case.
post #1205 of 1261
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Originally Posted by madshi View Post

That you were impressed only means that the MRX met or even exceeded your expectations. But we don't know what your expectations were to start with. So could you please be a bit more precise in your comparison? How did the MRX compare to the separates exactly? Thanks!

Madshi, I will be able to illuminate more specifically late Sunday evening, after testing the 700 in my own AV room with my own speakers and cabling over the weekend. My speakers are Genesis Technology 6.1's and my cabling is all Nordost and I am just not as familiar with the Paradigm Studios. All I can say is that my initial impressions were that the surround audio steering and midrange of the 700 were more dynamic than what I have right now. I have previously owned a D2 and a D2v, as well as a Bryston SP2, Cary Cinema 11A, amongst others. None of these are in place now, but I will be able to make some direct comparisons to my existing Denon AVR-4810. So, I guess you could say that my expectations (& expenditures) used to be higher, but now they are now governed by a more economical budget.
post #1206 of 1261
Hello,

I was wondering if the crossover settings can be set independently for each speaker? I have towers for front speakers that I have set to 60Hz or 80Hz now I think, but small bookshelves for the rear that are set a little too low probably at 90Hz in my current receiver.

Thanks
post #1207 of 1261
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Originally Posted by HeffeMusic View Post

Hello Nick,
I have been waiting for these receivers for A LONG TIME! I just wanted to know why you didn't include analog 5.1 inputs? Also do you have any idea of what on board Audio DAC's these receivers use. I am currently using a Onkyo 705, with a Oppo 83SE, via analog out's and I am afraid the Anthem will not sound as good with the Oppo via HDMI?

There's nothing wrong with converting DSD to multibit in fact this happens anyway in Sony's DSD production equipment since DSD cannot be processed (this includes splicing two songs together). Six ADC circuits to allow DSP for multi-analog input would add cost that would not benefit very many people. It's the 80:20 rule, and it's an HDMI world. Regardless all it would accomplish is turn the analog signal into PCM which the Oppo can do in the digital domain - there's no better way.

We used to specify chip model numbers like everyone else playing the game but got out of it a few years ago. There was too much fixation on them without realization that the most expensive DAC in a shoebox is still a shoebox. In other words even if the DAC has vanishingly low distortion the rest of the unit can obliterate it... I've seen a whopping 2% THD at the output jack of a CD player that was supposed to be hi-end, around seven years ago. There's no excuse for that. All the parts in a circuit must work in concert, and this includes layout, therefore all that matters is what comes out the output jack. The spec page of a finished product talks about that, the caveat being that specs don't have much meaning without conditions also specified.
post #1208 of 1261
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Originally Posted by Britcanuck View Post

I was wondering if the crossover settings can be set independently for each speaker?

Yes
post #1209 of 1261
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Originally Posted by Nick @ Anthem View Post

There's nothing wrong with converting DSD to multibit in fact this happens anyway in Sony's DSD production equipment since DSD cannot be processed (this includes splicing two songs together). Six ADC circuits to allow DSP for multi-analog input would add cost that would not benefit very many people. It's the 80:20 rule, and it's an HDMI world. Regardless all it would accomplish is turn the analog signal into PCM which the Oppo can do in the digital domain - there's no better way.

We used to specify chip model numbers like everyone else playing the game but got out of it a few years ago. There was too much fixation on them without realization that the most expensive DAC in a shoebox is still a shoebox. In other words even if the DAC has vanishingly low distortion the rest of the unit can obliterate it... I've seen a whopping 2% THD at the output jack of a CD player that was supposed to be hi-end, around seven years ago. There's no excuse for that. All the parts in a circuit must work in concert, and this includes layout, therefore all that matters is what comes out the output jack. The spec page of a finished product talks about that, the caveat being that specs don't have much meaning without conditions also specified.

Thanks for your reply Nick,
My only concern is that I purchased the 83SE for the analog Sabre 32 bit Dacs, and they sound at least 50% better than the DACs in my Onkyo. I have another question, I have Paradigm Studio 20's, 10s,CC490 and a HSU sub. The listening area (An apartment) is about 15 by 13. Would there be any difference in the Sound quality between a MRX 700 and 500? I think I am leaning towards the 500 because of the size of my apt.
post #1210 of 1261
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Originally Posted by Nick @ Anthem View Post

Yes

Great, thanks very much.....appreciate that you're spending time participating on the board.
post #1211 of 1261
Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere, but I'm trying to find a link to the physical dimensions of the MRX-500 or MRX-700.

I have a family room with old built-in cabinets. I'm having a contractor put in a new cabinet where a door used to be, but I'll be lucky to get it more than 16-18" deep. Just wondering if that rules out these receivers, which by all accounts look fantastic.

thanks,
john
post #1212 of 1261
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Originally Posted by icposse2000 View Post

Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere, but I'm trying to find a link to the physical dimensions of the MRX-500 or MRX-700.

I have a family room with old built-in cabinets. I'm having a contractor put in a new cabinet where a door used to be, but I'll be lucky to get it more than 16-18" deep. Just wondering if that rules out these receivers, which by all accounts look fantastic.

thanks,
john

17.25" wide by 15.25" depth by 6.5" height.
post #1213 of 1261
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Originally Posted by gostan View Post

17.25" wide by 15.25" depth by 6.5" height.

Perfect. That's what I need to know!
post #1214 of 1261
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Originally Posted by icposse2000 View Post

Perfect. That's what I need to know!

And, the MRX did not really shed a lot of heat in an open rack setting during my playtime yesterday. That bodes well heat-wise for an internal cabinet location.
post #1215 of 1261
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Originally Posted by Anthony A. View Post

nooooooooooooooo

looks like it'll be january before it hits the shelves in toronto.


i guess i shouldn't have "drove by" a local anthem dealer since i now have an mrx500 sitting in my rack. i wanted the 300 since i have an anthem amp for power, but i couldn't wait it out and i got a pretty good deal so im happy. i will be directly comparing this to a denon 4310 receiver in the next little while.
post #1216 of 1261
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Originally Posted by Anthony A. View Post


i guess i shouldn't have "drove by" a local anthem dealer since i now have an mrx500 sitting in my rack. i wanted the 300 since i have an anthem amp for power, but i couldn't wait it out and i got a pretty good deal so im happy. i will be directly comparing this to a denon 4310 receiver in the next little while.

Excellent.
John
post #1217 of 1261
Anthony, you are a lucky guy. I know that lots of folks are waiting for your to offer up comparisons between the Denon and the Anthem.
post #1218 of 1261
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Originally Posted by Nick @ Anthem View Post

MRX won't be in production for a couple of weeks as software and hardware are being finalized. Add at least a week for production, another few days for independent QC, a few MP reference samples air shipped to us for final approval (another week assuming no issues), then around 30 days on the water to Vancouver, then anywhere from two days to two weeks for customs clearance, then truck or rail to Mississauga, easily a week, then practically a return trip to Alberta... I guess by now it's clear it ain't gonna be two weeks.

For MRX 500/700 a pretty big load was air shipped from China after independent QC to speed up initial orders. I have no idea whether this will happen for the 300. The reality is that due to its margin an air shipment may be out of the question.

Nick, Are the balance of the initial backorders being shipped to dealers the first of next week? Thanks.
post #1219 of 1261
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Originally Posted by HeffeMusic View Post

I have Paradigm Studio 20's, 10s,CC490 and a HSU sub. The listening area (An apartment) is about 15 by 13. Would there be any difference in the Sound quality between a MRX 700 and 500? I think I am leaning towards the 500 because of the size of my apt.

Amp-wise, and assuming you're not into HD Radio, I don't think the 700 would give you enough of an advantage to justify it. The 20's will probably end up being crossed over at 100 Hz.
post #1220 of 1261
Nick,
You recently stated that the 300, 500, and 700 will not have hdmi pass-through or 5.1 analog inputs. What about the MRX 900? Also, any other significant differences on the 900 besides power, 9.1, video chip?
post #1221 of 1261
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Originally Posted by gostan View Post

Nick, Are the balance of the initial backorders being shipped to dealers the first of next week? Thanks.

The thing that matters is when your dealer would receive the order, and I don't know the answer - it's first come first served and in some cases they're partial shipments to ensure everyone gets something.
post #1222 of 1261
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Originally Posted by zaq1 View Post

Nick,
You recently stated that the 300, 500, and 700 will not have hdmi pass-through or 5.1 analog inputs. What about the MRX 900? Also, any other significant differences on the 900 besides power, 9.1, video chip?

It's too early to say much about the 900 because it could be a year from reality but HDMI passthrough is on the list. About all it'll have in common with the others is the multimedia module and much of the user interface.
post #1223 of 1261
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Originally Posted by Tom Bley View Post

Hi Nick, is this all the pre-outs? I'm specifically looking for the subwoofer pre out voltage as I am using a pro audio style amp that needs higher voltage to drive it.

Thanks!

Max sub-out is 7.2 volts under same conditions.
post #1224 of 1261
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Originally Posted by Nick @ Anthem View Post

Amp-wise, and assuming you're not into HD Radio, I don't think the 700 would give you enough of an advantage to justify it. The 20's will probably end up being crossed over at 100 Hz.

What about 500 vs. 700 in this case? I have a 5.1 setup with v5 Studio 60, CC-690, ADP-590, Sub 12. My room is about 17 L x 13.5 W x 18 H (two stories!) = 4131 cu ft. + adjacent open areas (mostly behind listening pos).
post #1225 of 1261
i just setup my mrx500 and have an issue with the arc software. i ran the measurements 3 times. first 2 times were using "advanced/manual", followed all the instructions and saved the file. everything appeared fine and went to upload. about 90% in it stops and says corrupted file. since i saved the file, i closed down arc software and tried to reopen it. it kept saying "error, invalid file format". this happened twice. the third time, i ran it through the automated "simple" interface and it seemed to work fine. i got the confirmation at the end that the file was uploaded. i then go to save the file on my desktop. close down arc software and try to re-open this newly saved file (that seemed to upload fine), and get the same "error, invalid file format". so now, im confused as to how i can review the graphs, if this is normal, and how to check that the upload did infact go through to the mrx. anyway to grab the file off of the mrx directly? anyway to check again?

hopefully nick can chime in. im eager to test this bad boy out tonite!
post #1226 of 1261
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Originally Posted by Anthony A. View Post

i just setup my mrx500 and have an issue with the arc software. i ran the measurements 3 times. first 2 times were using "advanced/manual", followed all the instructions and saved the file. everything appeared fine and went to upload. about 90% in it stops and says corrupted file. since i saved the file, i closed down arc software and tried to reopen it. it kept saying "error, invalid file format". this happened twice. the third time, i ran it through the automated "simple" interface and it seemed to work fine. i got the confirmation at the end that the file was uploaded. i then go to save the file on my desktop. close down arc software and try to re-open this newly saved file (that seemed to upload fine), and get the same "error, invalid file format". so now, im confused as to how i can review the graphs, if this is normal, and how to check that the upload did infact go through to the mrx. anyway to grab the file off of the mrx directly? anyway to check again?

hopefully nick can chime in. im eager to test this bad boy out tonite!

Try rebooting the computer. Once an upload fails I have found rebooting helps. May also help with the invalid file format error.
John
post #1227 of 1261
You should always reboot after doing an install (or uninstall), even though the Windows installer doesn't insist on it.

The ARC results file has extension ".arc" which can be confused with a compressed file format if Windows hasn't fully updated its list of what file formats go with what applications.
--Bob
post #1228 of 1261
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Originally Posted by Nick @ Anthem View Post

The thing that matters is when your dealer would receive the order, and I don't know the answer - it's first come first served and in some cases they're partial shipments to ensure everyone gets something.

I've had an MRX-700 on order for around 45 days through a So. Cal. dealer and haven't yet received any MRX units. It seems as though in some places people are walking into stores and buying them off shelves.

The other authorized dealer in my area hasn't received any either.
post #1229 of 1261
I have an Anthem MRX700 on order to replace my B&K AVR317. I currently bypass the AVR for all video. I route the TIVO and BPD-05 FD Blue-Ray player directly to my Pioneer 111 Plasma display via HDMI. I connect them to the AVR via Optical and 5.1 analogue. I understand that it may be better to avoid video connections to the AVR and keep all audio connections optical to eliminate interference from the TV side of things. I have two questions for Nick of Anthem. One, would there be a benefit to continue in this practice with the Anthem? And two, is it possible to configure the Anthem AVR's settings with info from the display on the front of the receiver, avoiding the HDMI connection to the display?
post #1230 of 1261
I'm also in so cal and I've been dying to see one of these units, but all 3 stores I've contacted say no units until sometime between this weekend and next. Hopefully this weekend is the one. Anyway, does anyone know whether or not these receivers can handle 24 bit wav files? I have some 24 bit 96khz files which I'd love to be able to play directly through my receiver.
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