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post #1531 of 2522
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Originally Posted by lanping09 View Post

Hi dmytty, good to know the Foo-UPnP, better than current Asset UPnP since it can stream multi-channel, high bit PCM signals.

And it's free! Plus Foobar can be extended so many different ways (playback/stream dvd-a isos and virtually any audio format is supported).

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I heard no problem with 2-channel sources (96k/192k,16bit/24bit WAVs), but with 5.1-ch sources, even its HDMI out indicates 6-ch, I measured the Center always sends 0's, and the other 5 channels send out almost the same contents. Channel identification is lost I think.

Channel ID is in the LPCM header...I think that's where things are going awry for the -83. BTW, were you measuring the bitstream from HDMI? What's your speaker setup? How did a 5.0 and 5.1 file differ in sound?

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Good to know this nice Foobar server, let Oppo know to fix this case.

You might want to email or call Oppo. Encouragement to fix a bug can never hurt the cause. And if the bug lingers...being that you're so close perhaps you could start hanging around the parking lot when engineers are leaving work (We could start a collection to pay for a picket sign)!
post #1532 of 2522
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Originally Posted by dmytty View Post

Surround LPCM 96/24 over UPnP only works for files having a 'native' channel configuration of 5.0 (FL, RF, C, SL, SR), 4.0 (FL, FR, SL, SR) 3.0(FL,C,FR). All other 5.1 files have 'nails on chalkboard' effects added.

It seems obvious that this particular UNnP LPCM playback chain doesn't like the LFE channel. Regardless of delivery mechanism (local file, UPnP) the LPCM headers specify the channel configuration, and there are different bit values to signify 4.0, 5.0, 5.1 etc. As Foobar streams the same files to other devices correctly, this is almost certainly a problem in the Oppo BDP-83. A simple workaround (for Foobar) would be to simply drop the LFE channel - and I've proposed that to Foobar if Oppo doesn't squash what should be a simple deterent to UPnP streamed LPCM 5.1 playback.

I will investigate this issue further if Oppo maintains that they are processing LPCM headers correctly. In any event, even if Foobar developers don't play ball, PS3 developers might make the change to allow 7.1/5.1 --> 5.0 downmixing. At least I can access that source code.

Configuration: (see attached image)

1. Oppo BDP-83 with latest firmware (Feb 1, 2011 BDP83-54-0130B)
2. Foobar (v1.1.2) with UPNP server (Foobar module foo_upnp 0.99.29)
3. Foobar setup - No DSP modules applied, set streaming profile to 'oppo'
4. Onkyo TX-SR 805 --> (my custom designed speakers)

Any 'cutouts' are likely due to network issues (ie your Wireless LAN). Playback with 4.0/96/24 from powerful desktop over 802.11n was flawless. Playback from 'thin ULV CPU' laptop over 802.11n with 5.0/96/24 had 3 <1 second 'hiccups' over a 17 minute FLAC file. These hiccups may have been an issue with the laptop CPU and/or HDD access. I'm certain any reasonable computer and network will support this feature - but start your troubleshooting by hooking up to the network with a cable!

Foobar configuration details:

1. [OPEN] Preferences>Tools>UPnP>Server>Streaming Profiles
2. [SET] 'Select profile to edit'>New
3. [SET] Use profile when 'User-Agent' contain 'oppo'
4. [SET] Samplerate range '44,100' to '192000'
5. [SET] Max bit depth '24'
6. [SET] 'Stereo Only' to 'unchecked'
7. [SET] "Decoding to PCM">Decode 'always' to 'lpcm'
8. [SET] "Audio processsing"> 'Active DSPs' is
9. [SET] "Apply"
10. Configure Foobar media library under 'Preferences' to include 5.0/4.0 files

Oppo Playback
[PRESS] "Home" button on remote
[OPEN] 'My Network'
[OPEN] 'Foobar' (or whatever appears to be your Foobar UPnP server)
[OPEN] 'Media Library'
[OPEN] 'Folders' - Last entry in the list within 'Media Library'
[SELECT] PCM file that corresponds to your 5.0/4.0 file

Note that Foobar sends the file's tag info as the file name if that's populated.

If connected via Analog you will hear music through all channels.

If connected via HDMI, receiver will not display the LFE symbol in your speaker setup icons during playback of 5.0/4.0/3.0 files. Also, via HDMI, 'Display' button on your receiver reveals frequency sample rate and channel configuration of "4.0" , "5.0" or "3.0". Other users can use their bit output methods to confirm this feature, or do some network packet streaming to capture the UPnP output.

For the ultimate proof, your ears will certainly tell you if the music is 'sweet as sally' or 'corrupted with digital demons' (trademark). For your ears sakes, if you test with 5.1 files...please start at a low volume or risk an immediate case of tinnitus (it's that bad).

P.S. Could someone post a link to this in the general Oppo BDP-83 user's forum? I was banned from that forum for being 'disruptive' and perhaps questioning too persistently. @Moderators: sometimes stubborn people can be useful.

Update from Oppo
Oppo's statement regarding fact that surround is possible but limited by "LPCM header channel interleaving bit assignment processing bug":



Note that I was pressing Oppo to commit to fixing this bug. Their response falls short but in developer speak it's mild encouragement. Call or email Oppo if you want to mildly (or otherwise) encourage them (beer offers never hurt).

Thanks for this!
I had planned to convert all my QUAD disc conversions to AVCHD which is a PITA. This would be much easier!! I have it working with Foobar but wondering if you are getting 24 bits? My Foobar log shows 16 bits (LPCM / 96000 HZ / 16 bits / 4 channels). Am I missing a setting? Thanks for this nice find! Eric
post #1533 of 2522
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Originally Posted by dmytty View Post

Surround LPCM 96/24 over UPnP only works for files having a 'native' channel configuration of 5.0 (FL, RF, C, SL, SR), 4.0 (FL, FR, SL, SR) 3.0(FL,C,FR). All other 5.1 files have 'nails on chalkboard' effects added.



Update from Oppo
Oppo's statement regarding fact that surround is possible but limited by "LPCM header channel interleaving bit assignment processing bug":



Regarding that "processing bug", the problem is compounded by the fact that the 83 requires transcoding from wav to LPCM. I'm pretty sure that LPCM encoding reorders the bytes (particularly for 24bit samples) in the same way as audio is encoded in DVD-Video or DVD-Audio packing format. I helped Steinberg trouble-shoot a packing error in their 5.1 DVD-A implementation so I am aware of this possibility. BDP-83 decoding the interleaving of LPCM is therefore trickier than decoding if you could simply stream wave as is (as in the 93?) Sounds like OPPO understand the nature of the problem however, which is a good start (hopefully not the final word!).

I'll prepare a 4.0 and 4.1 wav test file at -3dBfs, 24bit/96kHz test file with a different tone in each channel (makes it easier to separate out any channel-mixup issues). I've used foobar2000 + Upnp and there is definitely a problem with 24 bit streaming (more later on this).
post #1534 of 2522
Here is a test to determine how your 5.1 surround system maps channels:

There are two test files here:
Two 5.1 24bit/96kHz 15 sec. -3dBfs 1kHz Tests.
They are labelled A and B (its a blind test) and I have changed the channel mapping. Play these files through your sound card, via streaming ... whatever. The receiver/amp should be set up to render 7.1 as is (with no forced upsampling from 5.1 to 7.1 in any way).

The channels present are: FL, FR, C, Sub, , . The sample data is ordered identically in the two files but the channel mask in the header is different. This will demonstrate that there is ambiguity in two specifications: "5.1" and "5.1Surround". This has to do with RearLeft/ReadRight versus SurroundLeft/SurroundRight allocations.

For each of these 2 sample wave files, what channels on your surround receiver "sound" or are indicated as active if your receiver shows that status?
post #1535 of 2522
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Originally Posted by neutron77 View Post

Regarding that "processing bug", the problem is compounded by the fact that the 83 requires transcoding from wav to LPCM. I'm pretty sure that LPCM encoding reorders the bytes (particularly for 24bit samples) in the same way as audio is encoded in DVD-Video or DVD-Audio packing format.

It definitely is a packing problem. With a 5_1 channel file an entire channel develops a 'zeroed' bitstream. This 'zeroed' channel does not exist during playback of 5.0, 4.0, 3.0.

I'm guessing that when they read the LPCM header they're not reading the channel assignment bit values correctly...and they don't have an error catching routine. Or maybe the zeroed bitstream channel is the debug loop?

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I helped Steinberg trouble-shoot a packing error in their 5.1 DVD-A implementation so I am aware of this possibility.

Now that is a nice little blurb on the resume. Maybe you could help Oppo fix this in a jiffy?

Another user here actually has access to the HDMI bitstream (with the help of a really nice lab machine). Given that Foobar has WASAPI output (bit-perfect) it should be possible to do some A:B testing and compare test case #1 Foobar->WASAPI->HDMI to test case #2 Foobar->UPnP->Oppo->HDMI

Of course, the same machine and test protocol could resolve the 24 bit question as well.
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BDP-83 decoding the interleaving of LPCM is therefore trickier than decoding if you could simply stream wave as is (as in the 93?)

Were they trying to reuse code/SDK elements here? Oppo has described the MediaTek chip as being a 'DVD era' chip in terms of software capability...so a lot of things probably seem like a hack. Hacks usually make things more complex...which might be why firmware revisions seems to fix something, only to break something else.

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Sounds like OPPO understand the nature of the problem however, which is a good start (hopefully not the final word!).

"LPCM header channel interleaving bit assignment processing bug" was my description .. I hope they can expand on this significantly in short order.

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I'll prepare a 4.0 and 4.1 wav test file at -3dBfs, 24bit/96kHz test file with a different tone in each channel (makes it easier to separate out any channel-mixup issues). I've used foobar2000 + Upnp and there is definitely a problem with 24 bit streaming (more later on this).

16 bitty?
post #1536 of 2522
From Oppo:

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We have confirmed your observations that the player is losing the LPCM channel identification information. We will be having our firmawre engineers investigate this error and try to resolve it through future firmware releases.

In a perfect software development world, this will be part of a general fix of LPCM, including itty-bitty issues (ie truncation of 24 bit).

Good to see Oppo showing such strong support to their established customer base. If they're able to pull this off, one can be reassured that any future Oppo purchases would be similarly supported.

For UPnP server developers, this would make things much easier (it's really hard to debug your own bugs when the other platform has it's own bugs).

If Oppo does this right, I would foresee Asset, PS3, and Foobar UPnP working flawlessly for anything up to 5.1 channel @ 96/24.
post #1537 of 2522
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Originally Posted by neutron77 View Post

Here is a test to determine how your 5.1 surround system maps channels:

There are two test files here:
Two 5.1 24bit/96kHz 15 sec. -3dBfs 1kHz Tests.
They are labelled A and B (its a blind test) and I have changed the channel mapping. Play these files through your sound card, via streaming ... whatever. The receiver/amp should be set up to render 7.1 as is (with no forced upsampling from 5.1 to 7.1 in any way).

The channels present are: FL, FR, C, Sub, , . The sample data is ordered identically in the two files but the channel mask in the header is different. This will demonstrate that there is ambiguity in two specifications: "5.1" and "5.1Surround". This has to do with RearLeft/ReadRight versus SurroundLeft/SurroundRight allocations.

For each of these 2 sample wave files, what channels on your surround receiver "sound" or are indicated as active if your receiver shows that status?

I've just tested these 2 5.1 wave files using:
WMP12/Win7 ==> HDMI ==> Pioneer VSX=9140TXH in full 7.1 mode
foobar2000+wasapi plugin (for bit perfect playback) ==> HDMI ==> Pioneer receiver

The channel assignments and sounds are identical for the two test paths.
The two differently mapped 5.1 wave files come out different channels as expected.

A typical modern receiver has the output channels labelled thus:

FL
FR
Surround Left
Surround Right
Center
Sub
Surround Back Left
Surround Back Right

where the first 5 are used for 5.1 and the last two "Back" channels are for 7.1

If I synthesize a normal 5.1 wave file (FL, FR, C, Sub, RL, RR) using the channelmask most commonly used, then the RL, RR samples come out the Surround Back Left/Surround Right Channels since the Surround Back are really the "Rear" channels. So this sort of makes sense.

Microsoft's header file defines two different 5.1 configurations:

#define KSAUDIO_SPEAKER_5POINT1 (SPEAKER_FRONT_LEFT | SPEAKER_FRONT_RIGHT | \\
SPEAKER_FRONT_CENTER | SPEAKER_LOW_FREQUENCY | \\
SPEAKER_BACK_LEFT | SPEAKER_BACK_RIGHT)

#define KSAUDIO_SPEAKER_5POINT1_SURROUND (SPEAKER_FRONT_LEFT | SPEAKER_FRONT_RIGHT | \\
SPEAKER_FRONT_CENTER | SPEAKER_LOW_FREQUENCY | \\
SPEAKER_SIDE_LEFT | SPEAKER_SIDE_RIGHT)


where the first one _5POINT1 corresponds to (FL,FR, C, SUB, RL, RR)
and the second one _5POINT1_SURROUND to (FL, FR, C, SUB, Side (or Surround) L, Side (or Surround) R)

Therefore it seems that if authoring to target a typical modern surround receiver, the 5POINT1_SURROUND mapping
should be used.

Initial testing suggests that the same wav file on DVD-A played by the OPPO switches the RL/RR with Surround Left/Surround Right. Oh dear!
post #1538 of 2522
What program are you all using to concatenate VOB files to get a seamless viewing experience when viewing SD DVDs?
post #1539 of 2522
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Originally Posted by rontonio View Post

What program are you all using to concatenate VOB files to get a seamless viewing experience when viewing SD DVDs?

VOBMerge works well and is free. It gives you a choice of VOB or MPEG file output. If you're ripping, DVDShrink will give you the option of creating a single VOB file.
post #1540 of 2522
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Originally Posted by rontonio View Post

What program are you all using to concatenate VOB files to get a seamless viewing experience when viewing SD DVDs?

If you have a command line it can be done with simple utilities. On linux, for example: "cat vob1.vob vob2.vob vob3.vob > combined.vob".

-Bill
post #1541 of 2522
Thanks for your replies and solutions. Is there a better container that I should be converting to initially (instead of VIDEO_TS files), that will allow me to maintain menus, etc? Shrink doesn't work so well on more recent discs, so I don't use it much any more. I buy Blurays whenever possible (DVDFAB is great for m2ts files), but some movies just aren't available in HD.
post #1542 of 2522
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Originally Posted by dmytty View Post

It definitely is a packing problem. With a 5_1 channel file an entire channel develops a 'zeroed' bitstream. This 'zeroed' channel does not exist during playback of 5.0, 4.0, 3.0.

-- snip--
16 bitty?

For starters here are two wave files 24/96 10 sec. each, one a QUAD (FL, FR, RL, RR) and the other a 4.1 (FL, FR, Sub, RL, RR):
QUAD and 4.1 Test WAVE files. Different tones in each channel. The zip has a readme that explains it.

The amplitudes are ~ -18.5 dBfs as shown in these 7.1 channel playbacks with X-Fi Elite Pro sound card and Creatives Creation Mode console:
QUAD Playback and 4.1 Playback
post #1543 of 2522
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Originally Posted by neutron77 View Post
For starters here are two wave files 24/96 10 sec. each, one a QUAD (FL, FR, RL, RR) and the other a 4.1 (FL, FR, Sub, RL, RR):
Here are my results:

### The Neutron 77 generated 4.1 file plays back as a 5.0 on the Onkyo receiver.

### A 4.1 file I created plays back as 5.1 and has the same corruption issues as other 5.1 files. See the 4.1 file posted with others at http://www.gobliina.com/oppo_test_files/

It would be nice to see other users try the 2 different variations of the 4.1 files and report their results.

This is another hint as to the origin of channel masking and channel id issues.
post #1544 of 2522
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Originally Posted by dmytty View Post

Here are my results:

### The Neutron 77 generated 4.1 file plays back as a 5.0 on the Onkyo receiver.

### A 4.1 file I created plays back as 5.1 and has the same corruption issues as other 5.1 files. See the 4.1 file posted with others at http://www.gobliina.com/oppo_test_files/

It would be nice to see other users try the 2 different variations of the 4.1 files and report their results.

This is another hint as to the origin of channel masking and channel id issues.

I have now prepared a complete set of 28 multichannel test wavs:

16/44: mono, stereo, 2.1, 3.0, 3.1, 4.0, 4.1, 5.0, 5.1, 5.1s, 6.0, 6.1, 7.0, 7.1
24/96: mono, stereo, 2.1, 3.0, 3.1, 4.0, 4.1, 5.0, 5.1, 5.1s, 6.0, 6.1, 7.0, 7.1

all are 10 sec. wave files at exactly -20dBfs level with various tones in each channel. (available via private request). Will be offered to OPPO if interested.

Some initial observations:

(1) The only methods that correctly map/playback this entire set are:
(a) WMP12/Win7 player -->HDMI ---> Pioneer VSX-9140TXH
(b) Creative MediaSource 5 + Creation Mode Console multichannel display
All files above played back correctly with no distortion/dropouts or tone errors and through the correctly allocated channels in the channelMask as displayed in the receiver "disp" and the channel output dispay by Creative.
All samples up to 5.1 which specify "surround channels" in the wave file channelMaks use the "Rear Left" and "Rear Right" assignments as is commonly used. (The 5.1s sample uses the "Side Left/Right" channels for comparison)
By "Correct" mapping, I mean:

Wave: ---> Receiver
------- -------
FL ---> FL
FR ---> FL
C ---> C
Sub ---> Sub
Rear Left ---> Surround Back Left (SBL)
Rear Right ---> Surround Back Right (SBR)
Rear Center ---> Equal mix of SBL + SBR
Side Left ---> Surround Left (SL)
Side Right ---> Surround Right (SR)

(2) Tests streaming from foobar2000/UPNP to BDP-83 have many problems, particularly with ".1" waves typically to mapping of C -> Sub. As noted above horrible tones result. Also OK sounding ones (stereo, 3.0, 4.0 5.0) map as follows:
RL/RR --> SL/SR (which is common since SL/SR are the main surrounds)

(3) BDP-83 playing DVD-A 5.1 track over HDMI to receiver maps C and Sub correctly. Again, the following mapping is used:
RL/RR ---> SL/SR
(remember the "correct" mapping should be RL/RR --> SBL/SBR)

(4) foobar2000+WASAPI --> HDMI ---> Receiver played correctly (up to 6.1) but again the RL/RR ---> SL/SR mapping was used. This last test compared with 1(a) above shows that foobar2000+WASAPI and WMP12 are mapping channels slightly differently (but all sounding ok) to the HDMI output stream. (These 2 tests do not use the BDP-83)
post #1545 of 2522
Can someone recommend a free DLNA server for my iMac? The only one I've read about is TVMobili and I haven't read much.

Not looking for any fancy functionality; just enabling the BDP-83 to access the music and movie files on the iMac. Setup is iMac and BDP-83 both hard-wired via network cables to a single router.

(Sidenote: I have the same setup for my PC and a BDP-83 in another house and Windows 7 is pretty plug-n-play for DLNA. Was hoping OS X would be the same but I have my doubts...)
post #1546 of 2522
I have a G-5 PPC so am limited, if you have intel there are more choices such as Isedora--I paid 15. for Playback, it works well--Twonky was 20.00 and works okay but is a bit more complicated to set up. Playback has just been updated to 1.7.2(it wouldn't work before) and is pretty much plug and play. You can see more things on Macupdate. ron

I should also add that I do not update any config files or anything of that sort Twonky says it a generic player, and still works. Playback just works after you make a few obvious entries in the prefs
post #1547 of 2522
Just an FYI for anyone trying out PS3 Media Server as an option. All the links I've seen provided in this thread point to a very old version. Development has picked back up again on this program (finally) and new builds with a LOT of fixes are quite frequent. Here is the new source for all things "latest" with regards to PS3MS:

http://www.spirton.com/

Currently the latest build is 1.21.0-SB16
post #1548 of 2522
Well, it is isn't free, but the BEST thing (in my opinion) available for the Mac is EyeConnect:

http://www.elgato.com/elgato/na/main...onnect.en.html

It works very well with the BDP-83.

P.S. I may be taking a more serious look at this iSedora, though. Looks promising.

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Originally Posted by RushM3 View Post

Can someone recommend a free DLNA server for my iMac? The only one I've read about is TVMobili and I haven't read much.

Not looking for any fancy functionality; just enabling the BDP-83 to access the music and movie files on the iMac. Setup is iMac and BDP-83 both hard-wired via network cables to a single router.

(Sidenote: I have the same setup for my PC and a BDP-83 in another house and Windows 7 is pretty plug-n-play for DLNA. Was hoping OS X would be the same but I have my doubts...)
post #1549 of 2522
I was able to test out iSedora last night. I am impressed. It has solved a little peeve I had with EyeConnect in that it allows for more customization of the shares and it actually seems to be more stable at streaming 1080p stuff.

I'm not too impressed with the speed at moving through my folders, though. There's a chance it may only be temporary. When I went back into a folder I am was in previously, it seemed faster. I will check it again later.

I am also not so sure about turning files that have multiple soundtracks into folder objects. Sincethe Oppo is able to switch tracks as easily as it does with optical media, this is of no advantage to me. I didn't see anything in iSedora's options for turning it off.
post #1550 of 2522
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Originally Posted by jdryyz View Post

Well, it is isn't free, but the BEST thing (in my opinion) available for the Mac is EyeConnect:

http://www.elgato.com/elgato/na/main...onnect.en.html

It works very well with the BDP-83.

Funny, I sent El Gato an email a couple days ago asking them about DLNA compatibility between the BDP-83 and EyeConnect and this was their response:

"We usually don't provide troubleshooting for other products other than el gato products or compatible products however in regards to this blu ray player you speak off, it does not utilize Any dlna nor upnp whatsoever after having looked at the manual online. Something such as a sony BDP-S570/BX57 would work as it Does support dlna which eyeconnect is compatible with. I suggest you do a trial & error with this device & the free trial of eyeconnect & see if it works out for you. Good day."

Not exactly confidence inspiring.
post #1551 of 2522
I'm stunned by this response. My only conclusion is they must have mistaken the Oppo BDP-83 for some other device.

Not only does EyeConnect work great with the Oppo, I would even goes as far as to say someone at El Gato used the Oppo for testing purposes. Obviously, not the person who responded to you.


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Originally Posted by RushM3 View Post

Funny, I sent El Gato an email a couple days ago asking them about DLNA compatibility between the BDP-83 and EyeConnect and this was their response:

"We usually don't provide troubleshooting for other products other than el gato products or compatible products however in regards to this blu ray player you speak off, it does not utilize Any dlna nor upnp whatsoever after having looked at the manual online. Something such as a sony BDP-S570/BX57 would work as it Does support dlna which eyeconnect is compatible with. I suggest you do a trial & error with this device & the free trial of eyeconnect & see if it works out for you. Good day."

Not exactly confidence inspiring.
post #1552 of 2522
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Originally Posted by jdryyz View Post

I'm stunned by this response. My only conclusion is they must have mistaken the Oppo BDP-83 for some other device.

Not only does EyeConnect work great with the Oppo, I would even goes as far as to say someone at El Gato used the Oppo for testing purposes. Obviously, not the person who responded to you.

Remember, even on the new Oppo players DLNA support is "experimental." Try searching the on-line manual for "DLNA".

I wouldn't waste my company's time certifying a player from a company w/o an officially supported DLNA stack either.

Not confidence inspiring at all... on Oppo's part.

Styln
post #1553 of 2522
So I downloaded a trial of EyeConnect and it was incredibly simple and trouble-free. I didn't need to tinker with any settings to get my iMac and BDP-83 to communicate, which is great 'cause I wasn't inspired to get in touch with El Gato's customer support team after my last experience.

For those familiar with EyeConnect, are there video transcoding plug-ins that I can install? I noticed transcoding plug-ins for audio & photos pre-installed.
post #1554 of 2522
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Originally Posted by Styln View Post

Great tests! I've been avoiding hooking up wireshark to see what is going over the wire. Mainly because my server and managed switch are upstairs and the Oppo is downstairs and at opposite ends of the house. Should also be able to clearly see the negotiation between them to see if they are settling on 16 or 24 bits. Also, by looking at the size of the data load, it would tell us how much data is being sent from the server to the Oppo and therefore, which is truncating.

I find it so odd, that the disc interface works so well, but the streaming interface is so... different! Guess the good news is that by now 16 bit streaming is rock solid.

Styln

Any progress yet on wireshark testing for 16 vs. 24bit evidence?
post #1555 of 2522
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Originally Posted by RushM3 View Post
"We usually don't provide troubleshooting for
other products other than el gato products or compatible products
Can you return your unsupported El Gato product for a refund?

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Originally Posted by RushM3 View Post
"however in regards to this blu ray player you
speak off, it does not utilize Any dlna nor upnp whatsoever"
When a company is forced to resort to this kind of misstatement to justify
their lack of support, it's time to move on.

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Originally Posted by RushM3 View Post
Not exactly confidence inspiring.
No, it's not.
post #1556 of 2522
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Originally Posted by neutron77 View Post


Any progress yet on wireshark testing for 16 vs. 24bit evidence?

Haven't had a chance. Will see what I can do today. Assume you're in wait mode with Oppo techs on 24 bit & channel ID?

Styln
post #1557 of 2522
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Originally Posted by Styln View Post

Haven't had a chance. Will see what I can do today. Assume you're in wait mode with Oppo techs on 24 bit & channel ID?

Styln

Yes, that is correct. OPPO have only indicated that they would pass this above information (and some test files) on to their engineers. They are aware of this thread and I assume some OPPO folks are treading this thread.
post #1558 of 2522
Here is the complete set of 28 audio multichannel test wav files (14.9 Mb expanding to 240 Mb):
OmniWave.zip archive.

The set includes 14 files with 16bit/44.1 kHz and 14 files with 24bit/96kHz. Files are:
mono, Stereo, 2.1, 3.0, 3.1, 4.0, 4.1, 5.0, 5.1, 5.1s, 6.0, 6.1, 7.0, 7.1
All files are -20dBfs (1/10 full digital amplitude) in each channel and consist of multi-tones.

The "examples.txt" file in the archive lists the actual tones used in each of the wav files.
post #1559 of 2522
Sadly, no video transcoding support in EyeConnect that I am aware of.

I have to say, I just switched to Isedora. I have more control over things and it just seems to work more smoothly. In addition, I am taking advantage of its transcoding capabilities. I have basically converted most of my content to .mkv for Oppo, but now I don't necessarily have to for my .mp4 files. These are now playable directly.


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Originally Posted by RushM3 View Post

So I downloaded a trial of EyeConnect and it was incredibly simple and trouble-free. I didn't need to tinker with any settings to get my iMac and BDP-83 to communicate, which is great 'cause I wasn't inspired to get in touch with El Gato's customer support team after my last experience.

For those familiar with EyeConnect, are there video transcoding plug-ins that I can install? I noticed transcoding plug-ins for audio & photos pre-installed.
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Originally Posted by jdryyz View Post

Sadly, no video transcoding support in EyeConnect that I am aware of.

I have to say, I just switched to Isedora. I have more control over things and it just seems to work more smoothly. In addition, I am taking advantage of its transcoding capabilities. I have basically converted most of my content to .mkv for Oppo, but now I don't necessarily have to for my .mp4 files. These are now playable directly.

That's a really nice feature to have. Been converting my mp4 to mkv with Handbrake.

I'm running OS X 10.5 and iSedora is only available for 10.6, which is how I ended up with EyeConnect. Glad to see iSedora is getting strong reviews.
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