Oppo BDP-83/93/95/103/105 DLNA/UPnP thread - Page 23

I emailed OPPO and they responded that currently the 83 does not support HD audio in a MKV container. They are looking into possible support in the future. They did say that the DLNA might support HD audio in original AVCHD format IF they get the ethernet bitrate problem resolved. Apparently HD audio is supported over USB if in AVCHD. I am working on setting up a larger Fat32 USB drive to test AVCHD format on a full Blu-ray rip. You can divide a full movie into 4GB chunks in that structure. I can get MKV files (from a full rip split into 4GB files) to work over USB but don't know how to make OPPO play them in sequence. As it stands for me, the USB and DLNA capabilities are just toys as I can stream any format (OPPO no wav file support, wtf?) from my NAS through a HTPC.

This is a real issue. Some people are using Asset (check this forum). I have tried PS3 Media Server and JRiver which at least gives me a genre tree to choose from. Others have indicated they can get album art to display if they name the jpeg "Cover.jpg" in each directory and limit it's size to less than 60-70K. This doesn't work for me as I have high-res jpeg files and I don't really want to go back and shrink cover art and also rename 900 album art files.

Also OPPO doesn't support any lossless formats other than PCM so wav and flac must be transcoded to work

Anyone? Pretty please???

Here ya go: http://www.wireshark.org/

Supports multiple platforms and is fairly easy to use.

Cheers,

jr

Just beware, if you are on a Mac, I tried this app yesterday on Snow Leopard. Far too difficult an install, at least for me, and I'm not too dumb. Could never get past some "permissions" issue. On the Mac, this looks like a windows port and the windows look, well more like OS9 or an old windows OS. I opted for IPNetMonitorX 2.5, works fine on Snow Leopard, but is NOT free. I'm working with the PS3 folks on attempting to create a config file for my Onyko 906 AVR, which as of now is playing everything except FLAC files, which do play using Asset, but running that under Crossover on the Mac, is not ideal.

As someone mentioned above, Foobar's Upnp plugin PlaybackStream is now working on the Oppo (feeding the Oppo with a stream transcoded to LPCM). OK, Foobar doesn't usually look very 'nice' but it works (kind of). If I had a Netbook or something to remotely control Foobar from my living room it'd be perfect.
I can't get mine to start playing if Foobar's outputting a radio station for some reason, but switching to the station once the stream's started works OK.
Of course, that's only for music.

Thanks for the recommendation. I think Styln may have mentioned that one as well. Just need to find some time to dive into it.

No luck here with album art using Asset, J. River Media Center, or foobar. I tried naming the cover art files both folder.jpg and cover.jpg with same results. Tried with both large and very small (15Kb) files with same results. I assumed this was just a limitation of the Oppo itself. Has anyone else successfully viewed album cover art on the Oppo via a UPnP/DLNA feed? If so, please provide details on settings.

Thanks for the update.

They are just test toys for me too whilst I rip my entire collection to my new NAS. Once I have finished ripping in 3-5months time I will have a look around for the best HTPC/Streamer option (If Oppo havent sorted it out). If Oppo do sort it then I will buy a couple of their cheaper players for the bedrooms.

I actually have a reason to use Winamp for video! It is the only way I can ouput 5.1 24/96 over Ilink to my Preamp but I'm not sure if the lack of DXVA and less than ideal interface is worth the effort to get better audio.

I got album art once, just after the latest firmware update, when streaming from Foobar. So it is possible, but I'm not sure how I did it. As far as I know the artwork from the albums which worked is exactly the same (size, filename, etc) as the art which doesn't. I'll check all my settings tonight and see if I can get it to work again.

It was actually pretty exciting for about five minutes. Then I turned the TV off and enjoyed the music as I usually do.

I saw album art too, and I think it is dispayed if the file is MP3 and AA is included as a tag in this file.

Since installing the beta firmware, I've had three instances of the oppo dropping the video and continuing to the next track. This was through TVersity,one video was an mkv, and two were transcoded avi's. Has this happened to anyone else?

I assume you mean in contrast to having just one "folder.jpg" file in an album's folder?

Alan

Ah, interesting. So a lot of other people are having trouble with album art too. My music library is in lossless wma, with full tags and artwork. But I'm using Asset uPnP to transcode to LPCM and stream to the Oppo.

So either Asset isn't sending the tags/artwork when transcoding, or the Oppo beta firmware can't yet display it.

I'd convert everything to MP3, except I wan't to keep things lossless.

-dan

I've never gotten album art to show up but I'm only using DLNA. In another forum, they posted the following but their results are from the USB port. That's a totally different beast.

Originally Posted by smithjw
I was able to use "MP3tag" and get it to work, but I did find a limitation. You need to make sure that the art that you use has a size of 500x500 or less. Larger sizes do not work for some reason. Hope this helps.
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Originally Posted by smithjw
I don't remember if the larger ones I tried like 800x600 were above 60KB.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neuromancer
Not written anywhere, but pretty sure that the packed file size for the Album Art can't exceed 59KB.

There may be resolution restrictions as well, but I just know for a fact that the file size limitation is 59KB for Album Art.
None of the above statements fits with my tests. I tried some programs and came to the result that JPG, 953x953px, 96.9 kByte works fine. But one has to name it "cover.jpg".
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Regards, Michael

Welcome Chris

Not sure if this will ever be applicable to the Oppo, but I sure hope so:

http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?t=20897

I've installed it and it's great for browsing my ever expanding NAS based music collection. Stunning really.

Unfortunately, I don't see any way to connect Asset Control, Asset UPnP Server, and the Oppo, to play a file. Would be heavenly if these products were fully integrated to play MCH 24 bit lossless media. WOW - what a combo!

Styln

This is exactly what I'd like to see implemented and if all the bugs were worked out, OPPO could steal the market from squeezebox, sonos and virtually every other player in that market. The BDP83 could be an all in one player for everything. Then if BluTV could get things going soon, there could be apps for Netflix, Pandora, etc., etc.

This is what I'm waiting for, but not sure if I should hold my breath. In fact, I just placed an order for the new squeezebox touch because I find the Oppo painfuly slow and unpredictable when used as a networked media player.

I asked Oppo about the possibility of using the player as a renderer, and they said it's not going to happen and they barely have been able to get the DLNA function to work. Does Oppo need to implement network control to use the player as a renderer, or would a 3rd party be able to add that function? Sorry, I'm not an engineer or programmer.

I am also experiencing this behavior. I tried it in Windows Media Player and PS3 Media Server and in both cases I get the random Zoom In. I will try to play some more and see if I can figure out in what circumstances is it happening, but for now it looks completely random to me.

Anyone else experiencing the same issue ?

Could you help provide a link for this new Plug In? Can't seem to get this feature to work with Foobar by itself...maybe I'm missing something?

Here you go: http://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_upnp

Hi there everyone,

Long time lurker, first time poster. Just a quick question about Foobar.

I've been streaming .wav files as pcm to myOppo using Foobar successfully - tried Asset but for some reason could not get it to work. Have been streaming my HDTV (.mpg) files using Tversity as well.

Is there a way to have Foobar start minimised in the background when I boot my PC?

Cheers,

Dave

To launch foobar2000 minimized you must launch it with the /hide command-line option. It will be minimized in the task bar. If you want it minimized in the System Tray, you have to check File->Preferences->Display->Default User Interface->Minimize to notificaion Area. Now if you want to have it launched on boot, you'll have to add a Startup shortcut to launch it (with the /hide option). If you're using Windows7, see http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...ms-change.html

I have learned so much from this thread - I thought I would post my two cents worth. I followed a post on mediasmartserver net using clown_bd and mkvmerge and successfully streamed WALL-E to my 83. I turned on the info and it showed 28-29 mb/s video and DTS-HD on my 4308. The mkv size was around 21G. Also, foobar2000 v1.1 streaming multi-channel MLPS. Also -Thanks bubbleguuum for your hard work on the upnp plugin.

Thanks very much, will give it a go.

There is a free program called Media Info:

http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en/Download

that shows you audio and video data on media files. Could you run this on your Wall-E file and give me the info? I have Wall-E as a mkv file of 21GB and have tried streaming with no success. If I understand your post, you are streaming using mediasmartserver over the ethernet connection on the OPPO without stuttering and freezing AND getting DTS_MA HD audio?!

Very interesting, thank you for sharing! A few quick questions...

Are the steps you followed to make the MKV file the same as the ones in this guide?

What software/settings are you using on your computer for streaming your WALL-E mkv to the Oppo?

For playing MLPs you are using foobar2000 with the "PlaybackStream" plugin, right? Could you give a quick run-through of your foobar/plugin settings, I'd love to play the MLPs (and multichannel FLAC) on my hard drive via the Oppo, thanks!!!

Eiredale - yes streaming from a EX485 on a gigabit wired lan - the media info file has been PMed.

I was able to shrink down Cars with DD 5.1 (non-hd) using Handbrake and it looked great at only 5g in size - down from 27g - thanks oppo for fixing the p-frame issue. I took about 30 hours as i only have a Pentium 4

Sherbona - Yes that is the guide - I wasn't able to include a URL in my first post...I did exactly as he describes using DVDfab passkey. Streaming from a EX485 with the latest 3.0 HP update that includes their version of Twonky Media Server.
foobar2000 - just using version 1.0.1 with the latest upnp component. I started with the settings from the fist page of this thread - but the version of foobar is older and the newest version don't seem to have a limit on bit depth or bit rates.

The MLP info:
General
Complete name : \\\\HPSERVER-HOME\\Music\\The Alan Parsons Project\\The Turn of a Friendly Card\\02- Games People Play.flac
Format : FLAC
Format/Info : Free Lossless Audio Codec
File size : 180 MiB
Duration : 4mn 25s
Overall bit rate : 5 703 Kbps
Album : The Turn of a Friendly Card
Track name : Games People Play
Track name/Position : 02
Track name/Total : 10
Performer : The Alan Parsons Project
Recorded date : 2004
dvda_title : 1
dvda_titleset : 1
dvda_track : 2
TOTALDISCS : 1

Audio
Format : FLAC
Format/Info : Free Lossless Audio Codec
Duration : 4mn 25s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 5 703 Kbps
Channel(s) : 4 channels
Sampling rate : 96.0 KHz
Resolution : 24 bits
Stream size : 180 MiB (100%)
Writing library : libFLAC 1.2.1 (UTC 2007-09-17)

Thanks for the info. Have up and running now with asset.

Do any NAS drives support transcoding or can you get any software running on them? So i can play tunes without having pc on?

Well, I've started ripping my DVD collection and saw a first last night, a couple of full rate DTS PAL rips that would not play properly on my PC but play properly on the Oppo!

100 rips so far confirms my initial findings, the current beta is solid for full rate DVD rips but no good for full rate BD/HDDVD rips.

I have 300+ DVDs on my media server all of which play fine. Only glitch on the OPPO is no chapter navigation, only fast forward. These are all MKVs so I don't know if this related. Do you experience the same?