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post #691 of 2522
[quote=edn4x4;18537683]Eiredale - yes streaming from a EX485 on a gigabit wired lan - the media info file has been PMed.

I checked you media info on the Wall-e file and it is basically the same as my Blu-ray rip. I don't have the HP Media Server and I wasn't able to get the trial version (5.13) of Twonky to work on my end. I have tried other servers (PS3, JRiver, Tversity) and can't get any of them to stream full Blu-ray rips without freezing. I wonder if the HP software in the EX485 buffers the stream somehow. Have you had success with any other full bitrate files?
post #692 of 2522
Quote:
Originally Posted by monkeysrus View Post

Thanks for the info. Have up and running now with asset.

Do any NAS drives support transcoding or can you get any software running on them? So i can play tunes without having pc on?

Here is a list of some NAS manufacturers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NAS_manufacturers

To stream you just have to have some sort of DLNA compliant server (PS3 Media server is free and will do some transcoding) on the units and which one would depend on the NAS platform.
post #693 of 2522
I have the same issue with chapter navigation - I hope oppo will provide future support for this. For a workaround I pause the movie - use the goto button on the remote - and then hit play.... I find the oppo not very responsive to remote commands while streaming - so pausing works once the command is recognized. I know that i have chapter markers in some of my DVD rips and it works with my DSM-750, but not on the oppo.
post #694 of 2522
[quote=Eiredale;18541204
I checked you media info on the Wall-e file and it is basically the same as my Blu-ray rip. I don't have the HP Media Server and I wasn't able to get the trial version (5.13) of Twonky to work on my end. I have tried other servers (PS3, JRiver, Tversity) and can't get any of them to stream full Blu-ray rips without freezing. I wonder if the HP software in the EX485 buffers the stream somehow. Have you had success with any other full bitrate files?[/QUOTE]

I did see a new version of Twonky server version 6.0 beta out there today - might be worth a try. As far as the buffering goes on the EX485 - I have no idea - sorry. I had a full bit rate file I downloaded from the internet for testing...that worked fine but had DD5.1 not MA. That is why I took the time to try to rip my BD movies - I want to back them up so the kids don't destroy them. I tried makeMKV and it didn't work - so I tried the clown-BD method from my other post and it worked for me.
post #695 of 2522
Quote:
Originally Posted by edn4x4 View Post


foobar2000 - just using version 1.0.1 with the latest upnp component. I started with the settings from the fist page of this thread - but the version of foobar is older and the newest version don't seem to have a limit on bit depth or bit rates.

The MLP info:
General
Complete name : \\\\HPSERVER-HOME\\Music\\The Alan Parsons Project\\The Turn of a Friendly Card\\02- Games People Play.flac
Format : FLAC


Channel(s) : 4 channels
Sampling rate : 96.0 KHz
Resolution : 24 bits

Still no multichannel success for me on the Oppo using Foobar. Below are my details:


Foobar2000 v1.0.2.1
- uPnP plugin, v0.99.23.2

In preferences, UPnP > Server > Streaming Profile:

- Render Capabilities
> 44100 to 96000 (I also tried 44100 to 48000 and 44100 to 44100)
> 24bit (I also tried 16bit)

- Transcode to MP3
> "Transcode" pulldown set to "Never"
> "Except extensions" is empty
> "or except" has both "lossless" and "Internet connection" checked (I also tried lossless not checked)
> "ABR/CBR Encoding" set to constant bitrate of 320

- Decoding to PCM
> "Decode" set to "Always to lpcm except "mp3 wma"

- Playback Stream Capture
> Codec wav
> samplerate 96000 (also tried 48000)
> bit depth 24 (also tried 16)


Playback Results (navigated to the playlist in the Oppo and pressed play)
- 2ch, 44.1kHz, Flac ripped from CD
> playback is fine on the Oppo

- 5.1ch, 48kHz, Flac ripped from R.E.M. DVD-A
> Oppo playback is way too fast, and is distorted (but multichannel does come up on my pre/pro)

- 5.1ch, 96kHz, Flac; recorded via Audition
> Same as above, Oppo playback is way too fast, and is distorted

All three files play just fine on the computer

Any ideas? (edn4x4 or anyone) Thanks!!
post #696 of 2522
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherbona View Post

- 5.1ch, 48kHz, Flac ripped from R.E.M. DVD-A
> Oppo playback is way too fast, and is distorted (but multichannel does come up on my pre/pro)

- 5.1ch, 96kHz, Flac; recorded via Audition
> Same as above, Oppo playback is way too fast, and is distorted

There's a well known bug with 5.1 LPCM on the OPPO that's been mentionned many times on this thread: it is played too fast.
Until OPPO fix it (if they do), you can have 5.1 be converted to stereo on the fly, by enabling "Stereo only" in the renderer capabilities settings.
post #697 of 2522
Sherbona -
I ripped mine from a dvd-a using this guide:
http://amplioaudio.blogspot.com/2010...with-your.html

again - foobar is your friend...
Also note I have only tried 4 channel rips.
Try this and see if it helps. I will try to post my profile settings later when i get home.
post #698 of 2522
Quote:
Originally Posted by bubbleguuum View Post

There's a well known bug with 5.1 LPCM on the OPPO that's been mentionned many times on this thread: it is played too fast.
Until OPPO fix it (if they do), you can have 5.1 be converted to stereo on the fly, by enabling "Stereo only" in the renderer capabilities settings.

Quote:
Originally Posted by edn4x4 View Post

Sherbona -
I ripped mine from a dvd-a using this guide:
http://amplioaudio.blogspot.com/2010...with-your.html

again - foobar is your friend...
Also note I have only tried 4 channel rips.
Try this and see if it helps. I will try to post my profile settings later when i get home.

Thanks guys!!

bubbleguuum - the only difference I see so far between my lack of success and edn4x4's success is 4ch vs 5.1ch. This would be great if I could get surround to work even if it was just for all my quad 4ch flacs. I'll try again later today or tomorrow with a 4ch flac sourced from a quad.

edn4x4 - Is that Alan Parson's Turn of a Friendly Card from an upmix, or was there a quad that I missed (just curious)?
post #699 of 2522
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherbona View Post

Thanks guys!

edn4x4 - Is that Alan Parson's Turn of a Friendly Card from an upmix, or was there a quad that I missed (just curious)?

Sorry - Not sure - I "borrowed" it from a friend for testing my oppo before investing in dvd-a. It sounds great i wish i could find them more readily and affordable.
post #700 of 2522
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Originally Posted by Eiredale View Post

I have 300+ DVDs on my media server all of which play fine. Only glitch on the OPPO is no chapter navigation, only fast forward. These are all MKVs so I don't know if this related. Do you experience the same?

Yeah I have the same issue, chapter work with my PC but not the Oppo.

Makemkv managed to copy all but 6 out of the 90. 2 due for fix in next release and still providing details and other info on the other 4 that failed.
post #701 of 2522
Weill I've ripped a few 100 dvds so far and have had no playback issues at all. I would really like a page up and page down button in the menus though
post #702 of 2522
Hello to the community!
Question with FB2000 upnp. I would like to browse through my library by folder/file location on my harddrive (instead of the default genre/artist/album...etc)
Gow should I customise the media library tree in order to achieve this ?

Working great otherwise.

Thank you
post #703 of 2522
^^^ And while we are at it, How do I get the Oppo to refresh / rescan the filesystem, I have added some files / directories and it is not Picking them up.
post #704 of 2522
Quote:
Originally Posted by bvader View Post

^^^ And while we are at it, How do I get the Oppo to refresh / rescan, I have added some files / directories and it is not Picking them up.


It's not the oppo that rescans. It is the server software that rescans. The oppo just displays what the server is telling it.
post #705 of 2522
Quote:
Originally Posted by bsauvage View Post

Hello to the community!
Question with FB2000 upnp. I would like to browse through my library by folder/file location on my harddrive (instead of the default genre/artist/album...etc)
Gow should I customise the media library tree in order to achieve this ?

Working great otherwise.

Thank you

I get a Folder option after the Artist, Album etc options. Although you have to page-down to get to it so I didn't notice it for a while.
post #706 of 2522
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tokyo_Joe View Post

I get a Folder option after the Artist, Album etc options. Although you have to page-down to get to it so I didn't notice it for a while.

Unfortunately I don't see this, maybe my base config is slightly different from yours? Could you please paste the html (or xml, not sure what it is) syntax of the browsing tree (obtain when you click the button which shows the details of the tree browsing structure)
post #707 of 2522
Quote:
Originally Posted by bsauvage View Post

Unfortunately I don't see this, maybe my base config is slightly different from yours? Could you please paste the html (or xml, not sure what it is) syntax of the browsing tree (obtain when you click the button which shows the details of the tree browsing structure)

Actually you are right! Folder browsing is the last item in the list, number 8... and OPPO display only has 7 lines so I didn't see it at first!

Thank you very much
post #708 of 2522
Quote:
Originally Posted by bsauvage View Post

Actually you are right! Folder browsing is the last item in the list, number 8... and OPPO display only has 7 lines so I didn't see it at first!

Thank you very much

Note that you can edit the XML describing the exposed items in the list, if you want to remove some of them or reorder them or even add new ones.
post #709 of 2522
New May 05 firmware updated OK from internet, with all versions showing correct. However, now PCM audio (big Endian) files that used to work from my NAS over Ethernet, don't work anymore. When I go to play them, the cursor sits at the file for about 10-15 sec, then just moves to next file without playing the file. This goes on for the entire folder, unless I hit Return. Also, Return takes multiple button presses to react when it is "playing". I've reset everything to no avail. Definitely different behavior from before.

Anybody else seeing this?
post #710 of 2522
Quote:
Originally Posted by my2cents View Post

New May 05 firmware updated OK from internet, with all versions showing correct. However, now PCM audio (big Endian) files that used to work from my NAS over Ethernet, don't work anymore. When I go to play them, the cursor sits at the file for about 10-15 sec, then just moves to next file without playing the file. This goes on for the entire folder, unless I hit Return. Also, Return takes multiple button presses to react when it is "playing". I've reset everything to no avail. Definitely different behavior from before.

Anybody else seeing this?

I have the same problem. MP3s work fine but my big lossless collection streamed as PCM doesn't play now.
post #711 of 2522
My machine has become useless with regards to having ethernet connected since the 3/29 public beta and now the official 5/5/2010 release. I can use the machine it just hangs indefinitely if ethernet is connected. Since I want to view newer mkvs I can copy them to a USB hard drive but it is very inconvenient.

Oppo says:

We have seen in some cases where there is an external NAS or receiver
connected with Ethernet causes the player to hang for 30 seconds to a
minute and a half when the Ethernet able is connected to the player.
We are investigating the cause of the problems and hope to address
this issue in the future.

Regarding yesterdays 5/5/2010 official firmware release
Oppo says:
We have not changed any of the DLNA or other Ethernet properties of the player. We are still investigating the cause of this malfunction.
post #712 of 2522
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarshallMan View Post

I have the same problem. MP3s work fine but my big lossless collection streamed as PCM doesn't play now.

Confirmed - I no longer own a streaming media player. The heck with 24 bits, 16 would sound pretty good right now...

Styln
post #713 of 2522
I think that the player ID has changed, because TVersity shows a "Device" instead of a "OPPO". Maybe that would explain some of our problems here.
post #714 of 2522
Is PCM confirmed as not working any more? I knew I should have come here instead of fiddling for hours to get it working. Oh well, roll back to the beta firmware I guess.
post #715 of 2522
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tokyo_Joe View Post

Is PCM confirmed as not working any more? I knew I should have come here instead of fiddling for hours to get it working. Oh well, roll back to the beta firmware I guess.

How does one do that? I might consider going back to the last stable firmware to get streaming working again.
post #716 of 2522
Quote:
Originally Posted by cocoon View Post

My machine has become useless with regards to having ethernet connected since the 3/29 public beta and now the official 5/5/2010 release. I can use the machine it just hangs indefinitely if ethernet is connected. Since I want to view newer mkvs I can copy them to a USB hard drive but it is very inconvenient.

Oppo says:

We have seen in some cases where there is an external NAS or receiver
connected with Ethernet causes the player to hang for 30 seconds to a
minute and a half when the Ethernet able is connected to the player.
We are investigating the cause of the problems and hope to address
this issue in the future.

Regarding yesterdays 5/5/2010 official firmware release
Oppo says:
We have not changed any of the DLNA or other Ethernet properties of the player. We are still investigating the cause of this malfunction.

I got a similar response from Oppo. They also asked me to test the same music files using USB and guess what? They don't work either. As a matter of fact, when I put a couple of the files on USB and try to play them, the player just cycles through all the files, then hangs (unresponsive to remote), and I have to power down and back up to get back to normal.

When I updated firmware, I did it over the internet cable, reset as instructed, and tested the internet connection with normal results, so I wonder why some things work over the cable, but music does not.

Also, regarding the NAS connection, mine (Synology 209) was working just fine for several weeks with the last firmware.

I'd roll back the firmware if I knew how. If I just put in a USB with the old firmware and tell it to update, is that it?

One other thing: All of the pcm music files have worked and continue to work streaming them to my Denon 3808 with it's own built in DLNA client.
post #717 of 2522
Quote:
Originally Posted by my2cents View Post

I'd roll back the firmware if I knew how. If I just put in a USB with the old firmware and tell it to update, is that it?

So far we can go back to any previous firmware with the normal method.

The funny thing is the beta firmware worked with no problems until I tried to play a mkv it didn't like.
post #718 of 2522
Quote:
Originally Posted by lap777 View Post

I think that the player ID has changed, because TVersity shows a "Device" instead of a "OPPO". Maybe that would explain some of our problems here.

Does anybody know how to find this ID?
post #719 of 2522
Hi guys,

Just wondering if anyone has any ideas for me about the audio quality of .wav files streamed to my Oppo 83SE.

I've noticed when I put the CD in the player, the audio quality is much better than the same ripped .wav uncompressed file from my media server. The stereo outputs go to my Yamaha RX-V1800 in Pure Direct mode.

I've ripped the files with EAC in Windows XP and am streaming with Foobar. Foobar is set to stream as PCM and has been working fine. I've turned the replay gain off in case that was having an effect but the audio quality is still different.

Is there anything else I should be doing? Is it the quality of my DVD burner in my PC (relic NEC DVD burner).

Cheers,

Dave
post #720 of 2522
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Originally Posted by DaveH1 View Post

I've noticed when I put the CD in the player, the audio quality is much better than the same ripped .wav uncompressed file from my media server.

I noticed the same thing. It may have something to do with :
- resampling or dithering in foobar or upnp plugin
- some RF interaction inside of OPPO, because LAN transport may produce high frequency noise (I use shielded UTP cable).
- not so good implementation of DLNA/UPNP in Oppo, which induces some jitter
- or something else?

Who knows...but yes, there is a difference.
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