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post #31 of 61
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Fact, the LFE channel of a dolby system is 3-120 hz. Many movies contain ULFs.

How many movies, give me your best estimate, percentage wise, from all the movies made.
post #32 of 61
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Originally Posted by Auditor55 View Post

How many movies, give me your best estimate, percentage wise, from all the movies made.
That is totally irrelevant. If a person prefers movies with significant ULF, then it makes no difference what percentage they constitute. There is no shortage of such movies.
Edited by mojomike - 8/14/12 at 5:54am
post #33 of 61
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Originally Posted by Auditor55 View Post

Show me in the forum rules where any kind of personal attacks, for whatever reason, are allowed.
For purposes of civility people are discouraged from making personal attacks. However, that is a different issue from whether a person deserves those attacks or not.
post #34 of 61
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Originally Posted by Auditor55 View Post

How many movies, give me your best estimate, percentage wise, from all the movies made.

Why do people own a sports car, how often do they go that fast? The answer is when they want to. It is a good thing I built my system to satisfy my goals. I don't tell anyone they must do the same as me.
post #35 of 61
So everybody should drive a used Prius... Got it... rolleyes.gif
post #36 of 61
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Originally Posted by Auditor55 View Post

How many movies, give me your best estimate, percentage wise, from all the movies made.
100% of the movies I own.
post #37 of 61
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Originally Posted by craig john View Post

100% of the movies I own.

Me too.
post #38 of 61
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Originally Posted by craig john View Post

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Originally Posted by Auditor55 View Post

How many movies, give me your best estimate, percentage wise, from all the movies made.
100% of the movies I own.


About how many movies do you own?

How many of those movies are any good plot wise?

The vast majority of movies that I own do not use an LFE channel let alone have ULF content recorded on any of the available channels!
post #39 of 61
Me three.

butter and jelly please.
post #40 of 61
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Originally Posted by MKtheater View Post

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Originally Posted by craig john View Post

100% of the movies I own.

Me too.


About how many movies do you own?

How many of those movies are any good plot wise?
post #41 of 61
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Originally Posted by pukemon View Post

Me three.

butter and jelly please.



About how many movies do you own?

How many of those movies are any good plot wise?
post #42 of 61
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Originally Posted by J_Palmer_Cass View Post

About how many movies do you own?
How many of those movies are any good plot wise?
The vast majority of moives that I own do not even have an LFE channel let alone ULF!

This is why we all have our own setups. I like the big blockbuster movies, you don't. I could watch non action movies on TV speakers and be OK with it.
post #43 of 61
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Originally Posted by J_Palmer_Cass View Post

About how many movies do you own?
How many of those movies are any good plot wise?

Irrelevant. They like and enjoy the movies/ULF content.
post #44 of 61
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Originally Posted by MKtheater View Post

This is why we all have our own setups. I like the big blockbuster movies, you don't. I could watch non action movies on TV speakers and be OK with it.

BTW, I don't critique movies, I like them for what they are, popcorn movies. Some are actually very good anyways. I own too many and rent more. It does not matter, the facts are facts, we can decide how much we want, how loud, etc.... Do you want the IMAX experience? The THX cinema experience? Just a big screen? Imax experience with full bandwidth bass? It is up to the individual to decide. I like the full bandwidth imax thing, I have tried all the others as well.
post #45 of 61
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Originally Posted by MKtheater View Post

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About how many movies do you own?
How many of those movies are any good plot wise?
The vast majority of moives that I own do not even have an LFE channel let alone ULF!

This is why we all have our own setups. I like the big blockbuster movies, you don't. I could watch non action movies on TV speakers and be OK with it.



That's kind of a big assumption. I don't recall making a comment on the type of movie's that I prefer to watch. A decent sound system will even make a DD 1.0 action movie from the 1930's sound better when you use one of the Cinema modes.

Die Hard 1 is an action movie with no ULF (AKA below 20 Hz content), and Die Hard 4 is an action movie with ample amounts of ULF. Even though I can not reproduce ULF at reference level, I can easily tell the difference between the two sound tracks. I also like both movies!
post #46 of 61
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Originally Posted by its phillip View Post

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Originally Posted by J_Palmer_Cass View Post

About how many movies do you own?
How many of those movies are any good plot wise?

Irrelevant. They like and enjoy the movies/ULF content.




Correction, they like ULF content even when they do not like the movie!wink.gif
post #47 of 61
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Originally Posted by J_Palmer_Cass View Post

How many of those movies are any good plot wise?

I'm not sure that's a useful parameter for discussing movie quality, when there are so many other characteristics that can influence how good a movie is: character development, dialogue, acting & direction, cinematography, theme, originality of story, etc.

In fact, one could argue that plot is something that big blockbuster movies often do well. The plot is engaging and carries the audience along, even though the movie is wanting in other ways (e.g., 2D characters, poor acting).
post #48 of 61
I should have put an and/or in between the two words then smile.gif
post #49 of 61
There are many different aspects that one can get out of a movie to enjoy. Personally, there are many movies I enjoy with excellent plots and excellent performances. For example, Scarface, Goodfellas, The Raging Bull, Trading Places, etc., etc. On the other hand, I also enjoy many movies with little or no significant plot which are just enjoyable for the eye and ear candy. Movies like the Tranformers series come to mind. Some movies actually manage to combine quality and effects. The Batman series and the recent Star Trek movie comes to mind. Tastes vary and so do what movies offer.
post #50 of 61
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Originally Posted by mojomike View Post

That is totally irrelevant. If a person prefers movies with significant ULF, then it makes no difference what percentage they constitute. There is no shortage of such movies.

This is where I come out. I wonder whether Auditor's "argument" would support the idea that nobody should have more than a one speaker system because the majority of movies ever made are either silent or mono.

Or no sub because the majority of movies ever made (I'm guessing) lack content below 40 or 50 Hz . . .
post #51 of 61
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Originally Posted by JHAz View Post

This is where I come out. I wonder whether Auditor's "argument" would support the idea that nobody should have more than a one speaker system because the majority of movies ever made are either silent or mono.
Or no sub because the majority of movies ever made (I'm guessing) lack content below 40 or 50 Hz . . .

I remember when THX first came out and when DTS first came out. Everyone said, there are no movies with this anyways so why bother getting it. I said back then, I want everything I can get.
post #52 of 61
I would have 11.1 if my room could fit it, I only have 5.1.
post #53 of 61
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Originally Posted by mojomike View Post

There are many different aspects that one can get out of a movie to enjoy. Personally, there are many movies I enjoy with excellent plots and excellent performances. For example, Scarface, Goodfellas, The Raging Bull, Trading Places, etc., etc. On the other hand, I also enjoy many movies with little or no significant plot which are just enjoyable for the eye and ear candy. Movies like the Tranformers series come to mind. Some movies actually manage to combine quality and effects. The Batman series and the recent Star Trek movie comes to mind. Tastes vary and so do what movies offer.

And don’t forget Lord of the rings trilogy has both smile.gif
post #54 of 61
I went to the Scotiabank Theater in Toronto today to see the Dark Knight Rises in IMAX.

Firstly, it bordered on being too loud. The opening sequence had moments that shook the floor and your pants. That I liked quite a bit.

What I didn't like was the overly loud mid-range and top end. Gunfire was too aggressive, and shouting dialog was grating,

It can be difficult to tell what frequencies the IMAX subs are capable of because the 35-60hz and often 60-150hz stuff is SO strong. Punches and kicks that you feel are often centered around 50hz, not 20hz. The nuclear explosion at the end was probably a broad mix of 20-80hz but it wasn't even as strong as say when the "bat" flies across the screen, which again sounds like tons of 40-60hz, and literally flaps your pant legs and vibrates your chair.

Overall I enjoyed what the IMAX system was capable of, although it was often too loud, even for someone like me, who likes peaks >120db. I just like more of the SPL to come from the deep stuff than the ear-piercing 1-4khz stuff.

Even so, my system can match this IMAX system in the 30-200hz range and even best it in the 10-30hz range (quad avalanche 18 IB, dual JBL 4648 supplementing mains).
post #55 of 61
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Originally Posted by Jesse S View Post

I went to the Scotiabank Theater in Toronto today to see the Dark Knight Rises in IMAX.
Firstly, it bordered on being too loud. The opening sequence had moments that shook the floor and your pants. That I liked quite a bit.
What I didn't like was the overly loud mid-range and top end. Gunfire was too aggressive, and shouting dialog was grating,
It can be difficult to tell what frequencies the IMAX subs are capable of because the 35-60hz and often 60-150hz stuff is SO strong. Punches and kicks that you feel are often centered around 50hz, not 20hz. The nuclear explosion at the end was probably a broad mix of 20-80hz but it wasn't even as strong as say when the "bat" flies across the screen, which again sounds like tons of 40-60hz, and literally flaps your pant legs and vibrates your chair.
Overall I enjoyed what the IMAX system was capable of, although it was often too loud, even for someone like me, who likes peaks >120db. I just like more of the SPL to come from the deep stuff than the ear-piercing 1-4khz stuff.
Even so, my system can match this IMAX system in the 30-200hz range and even best it in the 10-30hz range (quad avalanche 18 IB, dual JBL 4648 supplementing mains).
I saw DKR at our local IMAX and I had the same issues as you. Worse though was that the dialogue was often unintelligible. I have been to this theater multiple times and always *loved* the sound. In fact I've commented several times that it's the only theater I've been in with sound as good as my HT, (although my HT will dig lower.)

I usually get to the theater early so I can get the best "sweet spot" seat. This time I got to the theater a little later than I usually do and the theater was almost sold out already. I had to take a seat that was well off-axis. I blamed the bad sound on my seating position. Maybe that wasn't it after all. rolleyes.gif We'll have to see how it sounds when it comes out on BluRay.

Craig
post #56 of 61
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Originally Posted by Jesse S View Post

I went to the Scotiabank Theater in Toronto today to see the Dark Knight Rises in IMAX.
Firstly, it bordered on being too loud. The opening sequence had moments that shook the floor and your pants. That I liked quite a bit.
What I didn't like was the overly loud mid-range and top end. Gunfire was too aggressive, and shouting dialog was grating,
It can be difficult to tell what frequencies the IMAX subs are capable of because the 35-60hz and often 60-150hz stuff is SO strong. Punches and kicks that you feel are often centered around 50hz, not 20hz. The nuclear explosion at the end was probably a broad mix of 20-80hz but it wasn't even as strong as say when the "bat" flies across the screen, which again sounds like tons of 40-60hz, and literally flaps your pant legs and vibrates your chair.
Overall I enjoyed what the IMAX system was capable of, although it was often too loud, even for someone like me, who likes peaks >120db. I just like more of the SPL to come from the deep stuff than the ear-piercing 1-4khz stuff.
Even so, my system can match this IMAX system in the 30-200hz range and even best it in the 10-30hz range (quad avalanche 18 IB, dual JBL 4648 supplementing mains).

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Originally Posted by craig john View Post

I saw DKR at our local IMAX and I had the same issues as you. Worse though was that the dialogue was often unintelligible. I have been to this theater multiple times and always *loved* the sound. In fact I've commented several times that it's the only theater I've been in with sound as good as my HT, (although my HT will dig lower.)
I usually get to the theater early so I can get the best "sweet spot" seat. This time I got to the theater a little later than I usually do and the theater was almost sold out already. I had to take a seat that was well off-axis. I blamed the bad sound on my seating position. Maybe that wasn't it after all. rolleyes.gif We'll have to see how it sounds when it comes out on BluRay.
Craig
My son and I went to see The Dark Knight Rises this evening, and yes, I agree with both of you that the sound was loud. That was the first thing that my son told me as the movie was getting started. Also, the bass was too hot. It was a little distorted; but, the one thing that caught my attention was the rattling that I kept hearing when the bass hit. They need to check the ceiling and tighten up whatever is loose. The rattling kept catching my attention more than full body shaking bass.
post #57 of 61
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Originally Posted by J_Palmer_Cass View Post

About how many movies do you own?
How many of those movies are any good plot wise?
The vast majority of movies that I own do not use an LFE channel let alone have ULF content recorded on any of the available channels!

I own about 45 movies. Most of them are good plot wise.
post #58 of 61
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Originally Posted by ninja12 View Post

My son and I went to see The Dark Knight Rises this evening, and yes, I agree with both of you that the sound was loud. That was the first thing that my son told me as the movie was getting started. Also, the bass was too hot. It was a little distorted; but, the one thing that caught my attention was the rattling that I kept hearing when the bass hit. They need to check the ceiling and tighten up whatever is loose. The rattling kept catching my attention more than full body shaking bass.

Dark Knight Rises is a movie worth owning.
post #59 of 61
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Originally Posted by Auditor55 View Post

Dark Knight Rises is a movie worth owning.

I now agree with you. I love the Batman trilogy.
post #60 of 61
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Originally Posted by Auditor55 View Post

Dark Knight Rises is a movie worth owning.
I definitely agree with you on that. I look forward to playing it on my setup!!!biggrin.gif
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