GoldenEar Technologies Anticipation Thread - Page 5

def tech never made anything with a ribbon tweeter

are the other drivers coming from the same vendors ?

and who cares if they sound the same (which they shouldn't with such different tweeter designs). seems like a silly argument anyway

stereophile gave the STS a glowing review so if they do sound similar they are off to a good start

anyway it's all just noise till people actually hear them

Just curious Ron, but how do you feel about folks who have a strong opinion on the speakers that's positive?

For those who have experience with Sandy's past designs I think it's reasonable to be predisposed towards a certain bias (positive or negative).

What struck me as odd is for someone who had such a high opinion of his previous work to have such a negative predisposition towards his new stuff.

Ron

My Opinion as far as Golden Ear would Be High as Well, Please, dont think that Im Negative towards there Styling or Performance....Im sure, They Look and Sound as Nice as a Pair of Mythos STS's, within a Marginal Degree of Each Other......But, Negative Shouldnt be the word Used, More like Dissapointed, Golden Ear isnt a Breakthough, a different Design, Yes....Like I said Previously, a different tweeter??? It HAD to be...Different Drivers??? Yes, But by what Margin are they Better??? Golden Ear gets this Praise of OMG...... Technically, Golden Ear didnt create anything Earth Shattering or New...Just as the Color of Money flowed into Sandy's Pockets while at Def. Tech that Very same Color will flow into Sandy's Pockets while at Golden Ear......



Hating, No......But I do Love to Debate.....Just as with anything, Debating Positive and Negatives gives us a Clear cut difference between A & B


OTK wrote ( And Im NOT Hating ) "and who cares if they sound the same (which they shouldn't with such different tweeter designs). seems like a silly argument anyway "

Who cares if they sound the same??? Sounding the same isnt the Arguement...The Arguement is Sandy's Copy-Cat Design.....Yes, OTK, I agree, Its Tweeter design will Ultimately give Golden Ear a Difference from Def. Tech...But, Silly Arguement?? No, not to the Person Completely Confused on which Pair to Buy and Why...

shouldn't be too confusing

listen to both

pick the one you like

If we can get, at minimum, Def. Tech. Mythos STS styling and sound quality for a cheaper price, then that is a win, no matter how you slice it....

http://www.avguide.com/blog/killer-v...-part-2?page=1

But from a design standpoint, everything flows from the “fountainhead” that is the Triton Two tower. In a nutshell, the Triton Two is one of those oh-so-rare $2500/pair loudspeakers that, if heard from behind an opaque scrim, could easily (and I mean really easily) fool you into thinking you were hearing a boutique high-end loudspeaker that carried a five-figure price tag. Part of why this is so is that the Triton Two offers terrific clarity, transient speed, and definition, yet is remarkably smooth sounding in its overall presentation—a tough combination of virtues to pull off. Frankly, I don’t think I’ve ever heard any speaker do a better job of blending the output of a lightning fast Heil-type tweeter with conventional piston-type mid-bass drivers. That is, in my view, is the sonic “special sauce” that really sets the Triton Two apart. Happily the same technologies used in the midrange/treble section of the tower carry over directly into the GoldenEar satellites.

In short: the Triton Two and its stable mates are a virtual lock to enhance Sandy Gross’ deserved reputation for building speakers that offer killer performance/price ratios. What’s more, they just might make more than a few designers of boutique high-end products nervous in the process.

cvictorg, have you ever had an original thought on your own, Instead of posting links 24/7 with completely fluffy and bogus audiophile banter??

This is a forum on SPEAKERS - I posted a link about a speaker that a lot of people have been talking about - WHAT'S YOUR PROBLEM WITH THAT??

You post links 24/7.....do you actually have some specific need at all or you just think its a good job for someone to point us to silly audiophile quotes??

This is a speaker forum but its not really about MARKETING speakers!!

How about actually spending some $$$ and listening to something then get back to us with actually your own opinion, that would be a first!

The etiquette rule of this forum prevent me from responding the way I would like to so I'll just say this

I will post what I deem worthy of posting - Have a nice day.

BTW - the link was from a reviewer who attended the CESIA show - I thought his impressions might be of interest

Or do you wish me to only ask a question so you can dazzle me and the rest of the people with the sheer brilliance of your answer

Again - have a nice day

And how many times have you posted this?

It is not "open-minded" to reject knowledge - Bob Lee

How many times is a good question, its just a sig at the bottom so I guess ever post, a valid point too

You can easily check his last 3 threads he opened....purely marketing, no specific need or opinion. Its no different then someone SELLING Speakers creating a thread to promote a certain speaker and its not good etiquette, even the mods have asked him to stop creating threads with just links.

so, does this folded ribbon tweeter have better dispersion than a normal ribbon? I have always been suprised about how very few manufacturers do not have a horn loaded ribbon tweeter as the horn would be a good way to increase the dispersion and effeciency of them.

atleast, that is my understanding.

Patently false statement

wow...so much hate.

why don't we wait to see and hear what they come out with.

if you're butt-hurt about the def tech co-founders leaving and starting a new company--get over it.

if you hate def tech then buy something else. you do have a choice, no?

if you want to help make both companies better then offer your suggestions to them or join their R&D or marketing team.

some of you need to chill...or be on the receiving end of a nice, prolonged ground and pound.

So online listening impressions are marketing now?

Please remind us all that the next time you voice your opinion on an audio product


How about I bitch endlessly about how much crap these new speakers will probably be....I must say PROBABLY because I have not actually heard them for myself and all most of us can go on are MARKETING IMPRESSIONS from various blogs so I think I will instead bitch and whine about the mostly positive impressions since that is soooo much more productive

These speakers are not widely available on the market right now so the only thing we can go on are these links, which I find useful, thank you very much....I can pretty much weed out the BS is most fluff articles on speakers, but thanks for the concern anyway...


BTW, I will be attenting CES 2011 in Jan. where I can hopefully hear the triton twos for myself.....when/if that happens, I will post my opinions in this thread.....that will be *my* contribution to this discussion, FWIW

Dear Mr. Sandy Gross.....

I can honestly say that ....I loved The bipolar series BP7001 better than the BP7000. However.Both series are very good indeed.I see you have a very nice website called GoldenEars. In That web page.I saw your new design .THE TRITON TWO TOWERS. Very Interesting design indeed. But...May I know why the name of TRITON TWO when there is not triton ONE TOWERS YET? I am confused or missing something here ...or there is plans in the future to make THE TRITON TOWERS ONE?

ARE THE TRITON TOWERS TWO...YOUR SIGNATURE DESIGN?
Where can I have a demo of your towers in New York?


Thanks in advance Mr. Sandy Gross.

Sincerely..

Gio.

I Just heard the towers tonight in clt and was very impressed. Great value for $2500/pr.
The ribbons are very detailed, while not too bright. Bass was great.

I think Sandy has a winner.

Just curious how you can like the bp7001 over the bp7000? The bp7000 is amazing for a tower. They do seems to spike a little are 40hz but for the size of the towers the sound is very dispersed. I havn't heard the bp7001 but the bp7000 give my hgs 18 a run for the money. The hgs 18 just digs slightly lower.

I heard the new BP8060 at Best Buy last week. They sound more directional then previous bipolar speakers. Further more they sounded really really good. The midrange sound had a goobs of body and weight too it while the highs and lows were still very good.

I have BP7000SC towers and considering BP8080, BP8060, else the Tritions just for a two channel setup. I need good powered towers in any of my setups To me, STS is old technology now...

Truwarrior there are many unsaid factors that may have contributed to the 7001s sounding better than the 7000s, the source, the room they were in, how the built in sub was utilized (heck they could've been turned too high in the store and drowning out the upper frequencies. Now if both factors were identicalthat would be a different matter but I seriously doubt that this was the case. Heck moving a speaker a mere couple inches can cause the speaker to sound completely different.

Take it with a grain of salt.

Hi, Sorry for the delay in answering this, as we have been extremely busy bringing our new creations to market. FYI, I expect that speakers will be in the stores late in December. Yes, the Triton Two Tower is a Signature design of mine. I numbered it Two in case we wanted to build a bigger or smaller one, which is always possible but not on the drawing board at this time. The fact that you like the 7001s better than the 7000s is certainly possible as they might work better in your room. If you haven't listened to them both in the same room with the same associated electronics your reaction could have to do with other factors. Often listeners don't realize how many factors interact to affect the final sound that they hear and may focus on just one factor. An interesting case in point comes up when we A/B variations of a speaker design that we are working on. We have found that even when the two speakers are right next to each other, the slight difference in room positioning can actually be more significant than the difference that we are trying to evaluate. In New York City the speakers will be available at Stereo Exchange and Lyric. On Long Island they will be at Audio Breakthroughs and Audio Den. Other dealers can be found on the Dealer Locator on our web site. I think you will be very impressed when you hear the Tritons, as almost everyone who has heard them has been. Of course, you can't please everyone, but the Tritons will come very close. Thank you for your interest, Sandy Gross

Thanks for the update Sandy. I called Audiocraft in Cleveland, they are going to call me when they get the tritons. I have a full 7 speaker set from your former company and want to see what you came up with next. I saw a demo video of the tritons and saw you were using pass labs amps. I believe you used them with definitive as well. Is it safe to say that you prefer them over other amplifiers? Do you feel a run of the mill receiver can do them justice?

Hi, I like the Pass Labs amps very much and certainly count them among the very best available. The Tritons are very efficient and very easy to drive. Remember, your amp does not have to drive the bass. A good receiver will do just fine. Sandy

I fully expect the Triton Twos to be world class....I don't think anyone expects less than fantastic performance from these floorstanders.....

What I am really curious about is how the super sat 50 center and the super sat 3s compare in sound quality to the Triton Twos....

Compared to the pricey Triton Twos, the SS50 center ($500) and the the SS3s ($500/pr) are dirt cheap.....I am not expecting them to be super performers at these prices

Hi, The SuperSat 3s and SuperSat 50s are actually very similar in the mid and high frequency ranges as well as imaging characteristics. If you are interested in a two channel set-up which comes close to the Triton and is very similar in sonic character, a pair of SuperSat 3s and a ForceField 3 is hard to beat and at under $1000 and is an amazing steal. For $200 more you could get the ForceField 4. Sandy

Hello Sandy,

We are an authorized GoldenEar Technology dealer and Jack dropped off our floor samples today. We are the first company in the US to have them on display. I can say that the products are going to be an absolute hit. We were blown away by the SuperSat 3s and SuperSat 50 we received. We immediately hooked them up, and listened to the 3's in stereo. I can't believe the level of performance you get for $500 a pair. The fit and finish is absolutely amazing. I can't wait to get the Triton towers here next week.

For anyone interested, we now have the front 3 on display for demoing.

A review

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13645_3-20...heAudiophiliac


GoldenEar SuperCinema 3: How big can a little 5.1 speaker system sound?

Fluffy marketing article....I am sure they are actually complete crap in reality.....