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post #1801 of 2340
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Originally Posted by rraman View Post

Today I ordered the SuperCenter XL to replace the 50C in my home Theater. I hope the XL to give enough punch that 50C lacks in my 28 ft * 17 ft Theater room. For this size room I always felt that 50c isn't adequate enough.
My current setup for the past 2 years is;

Pair of Triton II
Pair of SuperSat50 for sides
One SuperSat50 for center
Pair of SuperSat 3 for Rear
ForceField 4 sub
Powered by Integra receiver and amp.

I am looking for a center speaker stand for the new XL. Since I only have 18 inches from the floor to the bottom of the screen and the XL is about 6" height, the stand cannot be higher than 8-10 inches.
Also any idea what would be the resale value of the 50c that was used for 2 years (movies only. no TV).

Thanks for your help in advance.

I saw one on ebay with ending bid of $200.

I am debating on getting one as well, but i am also wrestling with getting a FF4 and using it with high in/out to make my 50c a full range speaker with deeper extension potential than the XL. I like the slimness of the 50c or 60c. So not sure, going next friday to listen to XL.???

I read that on the XL there are options on the bottom of the speaker with the feet configuration that allow you to aim the SCXL. The reviewer called it genius. I think it was sound and visions review of the Triton 7 with the SXL center.
post #1802 of 2340
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Originally Posted by sonic debauchery View Post

I saw one on ebay with ending bid of $200.

I am debating on getting one as well, but i am also wrestling with getting a FF4 and using it with high in/out to make my 50c a full range speaker with deeper extension potential than the XL. I like the slimness of the 50c or 60c. So not sure, going next friday to listen to XL.???

I read that on the XL there are options on the bottom of the speaker with the feet configuration that allow you to aim the SCXL. The reviewer called it genius. I think it was sound and visions review of the Triton 7 with the SXL center.

Thanks to all. Do you know the recommended cross-over setting for Center XL? Currently 50C is set at 120. Paired with Triton2 and ForceField 4.
post #1803 of 2340
rraman,

We have the SuperCenter XL with Triton 2's and a FF5, we found setting the cross-over at 50hz sounds best to us.

Hope this helps,
Steve609
post #1804 of 2340
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Originally Posted by Steve609 View Post

rraman,

We have the SuperCenter XL with Triton 2's and a FF5, we found setting the cross-over at 50hz sounds best to us.

Hope this helps,
Steve609

Thanks, Steve. What is your setup for Triton2 and 50C (surrounds if any) and supersat3 (back surround if any)? Currently I have Tritons at 150 and surrounds at 120.
post #1805 of 2340
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Originally Posted by rraman View Post

Thanks, Steve. What is your setup for Triton2 and 50C (surrounds if any) and supersat3 (back surround if any)? Currently I have Tritons at 150 and surrounds at 120.

We have 4 Triton 2's (Fronts and Sides) set to Large
SuperCenter XL set to small cross over at 50hz
Forcefield 5 and Triton 2's all with LFE
post #1806 of 2340
I am starting to have a love hate relationship with GoldenEar and this thread! I purchased a SuperSat 60 in April which I was in love with and based on the reviews including the ones in this thread. Then based on the new reviews I purchased the Center XL which also had outstanding reviews. I'm salivating to set it up but bummed out that I have to find a new home for my old "new" speaker! Thanks GoldenEar I think! Lol... I will let you know my thoughts once I have it set up.
post #1807 of 2340
Hehehe, I know what you mean. I keep thinking "I'm done! My setup is complete!" and then this comes out.
post #1808 of 2340
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Originally Posted by Ediddy View Post

I am starting to have a love hate relationship with GoldenEar and this thread! I purchased a SuperSat 60 in April which I was in love with and based on the reviews including the ones in this thread. Then based on the new reviews I purchased the Center XL which also had outstanding reviews. I'm salivating to set it up but bummed out that I have to find a new home for my old "new" speaker! Thanks GoldenEar I think! Lol... I will let you know my thoughts once I have it set up.

Don't worry. The SuperCenter XL should keep you happy for a long, long time. That's what I expect from mine. It has the clarity of the 60C, but it goes far deeper. Those of us who've owned beefier center channel speakers in the past have been clamoring for it, and now GE has delivered. While the 60C beat every other center I've owned for clarity of dialogue, it couldn't match many of them for "gravitas." The XL has both clarity and depth. You won't need to upgrade any time soon. biggrin.gif
post #1809 of 2340
I was hoping the reviews were going to be good not great, so that I wouldn't feel pressured but they should go nicely with my Triton 2s. All kidding aside I'm excited. I know what you mean the clarity is there but not the depth. I have a friend with a paradigm signature set up and I always felt my towers were on par if not better but the center didn't have the ummph. I heard the triton 7s today very very nice!
post #1810 of 2340
Just installed the new Center XL replacing the 2 year old 50C and I felt it was a major upgrade especially for a large Home Theater (28 ft * 17 ft). The good news is that the sound quality will get even better after the break-in period. I have no expertise to write speaker reviews but I trust my ears that sense the difference. Great upgrade. I recommend that anyone with a larger home theater should replace their center with XL to make your home theater sound 100%.
post #1811 of 2340
New center
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Went and auditioned the SCXL today. I found it added much more depth to the sound field. Used the following to audition: Tori Amos Flavor and Winter, Embers by The Cult, 2 Chris Cornell tracks from songbook: As Hope and Promise Fade and Wide Awake, Sade Love is Found, Adele He won't Go and Kiss I Still Love You, Neil Young: Hey,Hey My,My and Sarah Mclachlan: Angel. Plus, blurays; The Tea Party Reunion, DTS Master Audio is outstanding reference material, Underworld first gun scene and Master Commander first attack scene.

Sonically it sounds much the same as the SS series, but the bass radiators give the center the depth it was missing in the midrange. I can definitely hear a "hollower" sound between the SS's and the SCXL. The SS's rely on the Tritons for mid range. Where it is all there in the SCXL.

I think the frequency from 90hz up to the 150hz where the SS series misses, is defined more fully.

Definitely did not know i was missing center channel mid range. The Tritons do their job so well that i did not know it was missing until hearing the SCXL.

The subwoofer hooked to the SS50 would likely be boomy as my trusted sales person eluded to and the mid range would not be as defined.
Edited by sonic debauchery - 11/10/13 at 5:41am
post #1813 of 2340
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Originally Posted by sonic debauchery View Post


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Sonically it sounds much the same as the SS series, but the bass radiators give the center the depth it was missing in the midrange. I can definitely hear a "hollower" sound between the SS's and the SCXL. The SS's rely on the Tritons for mid range. Where it is all there in the SCXL.

I think the frequency from 90hz up to the 150hz where the SS series misses, is defined more fully.

Definitely did not know i was missing center channel mid range. The Tritons do their job so well that i did not know it was missing until hearing the SCXL.

The subwoofer hooked to the SS50 would likely be boomy as my trusted sales person eluded to and the mid range would not be as defined.

Your assessment is what my ears are telling me, too. Additionally, after letting my new SuperCenter XL run for the last four days, I ran Anthem Room Correction on my system. Previously the SS50 was set by ARC at 120hz. The new SCXL? 60hz. :-)

Thank you, Sandy.
post #1814 of 2340
I just listened to triton two they played some music and I was impressed I did not hear the super center xl and movies wondering how they sound I mostly watch movies
An tv I wonder how they sound with sports ?
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I think speakers that can do justice to music also perform well for sports and home theater. The Triton Two's sound amazing with everything I've heard on them. The SuperCenter XL is absolutely phenomenal for dialogue in films, but it plays music with equal authority. I found the SuperSat 60C a bit anemic, such as in the numerous scenes in "August Rush" in which guitar, cello and other instruments emanated from the center. The XL has no such problem.
post #1816 of 2340
Thanks now I'm trying to decide between triton two and super center xl vs svs ultra towers and center speaker. I al ready have a svs pb ultra 13 my receiver in a denon 3808 ci
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I had the Denon 3808 and loved it. Now I have the Denon 3313 (which can handle 3D). I'll be transitioning to the Denon 4520CI so I can use "height" and "wide" speakers at the same time. I love the distinctive Denon sound, and it's a perfect complement to GE speakers.
post #1818 of 2340
Hey guys has anyone here heard and compared the triton seven's to the emptek E55ti's or sonus faber venere 2.5 towers? If so what do you think?
post #1819 of 2340
Trying to decide between the super center X or XL to go with my aons 3, I will be using a sub (HSU), and with speakers set to small, what would I gain from the XL compared to the X, room is 15x18, , thanks
post #1820 of 2340
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Originally Posted by panzer View Post

Trying to decide between the super center X or XL to go with my aons 3, I will be using a sub (HSU), and with speakers set to small, what would I gain from the XL compared to the X, room is 15x18, , thanks

You should consider if the XL is too much speaker for the Aons. I think they're a great match for the Triton twos, but they might be too loud compared to the Aons.
post #1821 of 2340
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Originally Posted by Sfniner View Post

Thanks now I'm trying to decide between triton two and super center xl vs svs ultra towers and center speaker. I al ready have a svs pb ultra 13 my receiver in a denon 3808 ci

I had a Denon 3808 ci and moved to an Onkyo 818. The reason is for Audyssey XT32. The 818 with xt32 is a huge improvement over the 3808 which was very abnemic in the bass department, even with XT.
I was at an electronics show recently where svs had a hotel room set up with their speakers and 2 svs sb13 ultras and an onkyo 3010. Now i have owned Triton 2's since late 2010 and can give you an eye witness account of both. I met Eli from SVS and had a great discussion with him. He asked me what i thought? So i told him i thought the SVS booth was well set up and when he asked me what i thought of the towers i said the SVS speakers are roughly the same as the triton 7. Maybe slightly better? They don't come close to the imaging and fidelity of the Triton 2.

Again there is a big price difference as well. I have to say though svs did the best job at the show i was at. There were many foo foo high end companies touting their 2 channel speakers. Some upwards of $25000 a pair. I was with 3 guys at the show and they all agreed that the svs booth with their set up sounded much fuller and better than 90% of the super high end stuff.

The $190000 focals were pretty bad a--!

The triton set up will in my humble opinion blow the svs away. It should, there is a big cost differential. Remember Sandy designs his speakers at good prices to compete with the super high enders.

Go listen to the Triton 7 and this will give you a good idea of what the SVS towers sound like. Hope this helps in your decision making.
Edited by sonic debauchery - 11/11/13 at 3:57am
post #1822 of 2340
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Originally Posted by panzer View Post

Trying to decide between the super center X or XL to go with my aons 3, I will be using a sub (HSU), and with speakers set to small, what would I gain from the XL compared to the X, room is 15x18, , thanks

I believe the XL is meant to run with the Triton 2 and Triton 3. Also i think it is meant for larger spaces? so the X would be a better match to the Aon 3's.
post #1823 of 2340
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Originally Posted by sonic debauchery View Post

I had a Denon 3808 ci and moved to an Onkyo 818. The reason is for Audyssey XT32. The 818 with xt32 is a huge improvement over the 3808 which was very abnemic in the bass department, even with XT.
I was at an electronics show recently where svs had a hotel room set up with their speakers and 2 svs sb13 ultras and an onkyo 3010. Now i have owned Triton 2's since late 2010 and can give you an eye witness account of both. I met Eli from SVS and had a great discussion with him. He asked me what i thought? So i told him i thought the SVS booth was well set up and when he asked me what i thought of the towers i said the SVS speakers are roughly the same as the triton 7. Maybe slightly better? They don't come close to the imaging and fidelity of the Triton 2.

Again there is a big price difference as well. I have to say though svs did the best job at the show i was at. There were many foo foo high end companies touting their 2 channel speakers. Some upwards of $25000 a pair. I was with 3 guys at the show and they all agreed that the svs booth with their set up sounded much fuller and better than 90% of the super high end stuff.

The $190000 focals were pretty bad a--!

The triton set up will in my humble opinion blow the svs away. It should, there is a big cost differential. Remember Sandy designs his speakers at good prices to compete with the super high enders.

Go listen to the Triton 7 and this will give you a good idea of what the SVS towers sound like. Hope this helps in your decision making.

I think this post brings up a very important point, which is how critical the room is to the sound of speakers. I initially listened to Triton 2 and 3s in a store and the Ultra in my home when I was speaker shopping. The Tritons were up against a wall in a room with maybe 8 other sets of speakers and spaced far apart. I was not impressed. The Ultras were in my house, so I could position them as I wanted. But, I was also at a recent show (RMAF) and I thought the SVS room had the speakers way too close to the seats and too toed in. If I had Tritons in my house and only heard the Ultras in a hotel, I would prefer the Tritons also! It is really only fair to compare them side by side. I sometimes wonder if I should have got a pair of Triton3s to bring home and compare next to the Ultra towers side by side.

Which brings me to the reason for this post:

Any GE owners in the Denver or Colorado Springs area? A bunch of us might organize a GTG next summer and it would be great to have a set of Triton 2 or 3s there. I know Listenup is a dealer, so I figure there must be some local owners.

You can post here or PM me if interested. Thanks!
Edited by NewHTbuyer - 11/11/13 at 10:04am
post #1824 of 2340
Thanks for all this info
post #1825 of 2340
Hey sonic thanks for the info did you have the super center? If so can you tell me how they sound thanks again now I might just have to buy a new receiver
post #1826 of 2340
Ok guys I went and listened the the triton 7's today and man for music there is no equal.............
post #1827 of 2340
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Originally Posted by Sfniner View Post

Hey sonic thanks for the info did you have the super center? If so can you tell me how they sound thanks again now I might just have to buy a new receiver

I have a super sat 50 right now not the super center, but audtioned the supercenter this weekend. Starting with a speaker upgrade is the wisest move in my opinion. Then follow up with a quality receiver, something with Audyssey XT32 or Anthems ARC for example.
post #1828 of 2340
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Originally Posted by The Murderousone View Post

Ok guys I went and listened the the triton 7's today and man for music there is no equal.............

Try the Triton 2 or 3! They rock to.
post #1829 of 2340
Thanks sonic for all your advise
post #1830 of 2340
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Originally Posted by Sfniner View Post

Hey sonic thanks for the info did you have the super center? If so can you tell me how they sound thanks again now I might just have to buy a new receiver

Listen to the Denon's if you can. I had a good friend over last night. He's an audiophile and violinist who has an extremely good ear. One comment he made was that he was surprised that a receiver could sound as good as my Denons did (he runs separates). We listened to the high res sound track from Jurassic Park (192hz/24bit HDTracks album playing back from a USB thumb drive). He commented on the naturalness of the instruments in the orchestra as we listened to the Triton Seven's - how the violin sounds like a violin, the oboe like an oboe, etc. This may sound like an obvious observation, but many speakers aren't capable of delivering anywhere near the fidelity the GE's can. This little session was with the Seven's and a Denon 2313. When we moved to the dedicated home theater room to listen to some of the same tracks on the Denon 3313, he immediately said of the Triton Two's, "Ah. Now I can hear the hall (where the music was recorded)!" I can't say the same for most other receivers I've heard. For me the Denon's have a richness that matches (and often beats) separates.
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