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post #1 of 8
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Hi all; I've got a couple of quick(?) Netflix-related questions and I'm hoping you can help me out.

On #1, I've been digging through the threads for various players but there are so many threads and so many different posts in each one that I thought I'd bring this up here:

1) Are there any of these Digital Media Players that play Netflix movies "directly", i.e., without using PlayOn on your computer? I think the Roku box does this but it's "online only" if I'm not mistaken (won't play my local content).

It looks like the PopBox will play Netflix directly, or am I reading the specs wrong? Are there any other media players with this capability?

2) Does anybody know what Netflix's deal is? I would think that they would be trying to get "Netflix-playing" capability in every electronic device out there, from Blu-Ray players down to toasters. Their business model from day one has been to transition from mailing DVDs out to streaming digital content.

Yet it seems like they're being very picky about who they "partner" with (or else there's something else going on that I just don't understand -- always a possibility!).

The fact that Netflix isn't available on a cheap Blu-Ray player like the Panny BD-60 makes me think that Netflix is playing "hardball" with hardware manufacturers, but that seems like it would be counterproductive to me.

A little background, for anyone who's interested:

I recently bought the aforementioned BD-60 blu-ray player, primarily so we could watch home movies in AVCHD format. I just wanted a cheap player that would play those movies reliably.

When my wife found out I had a networkable blu-ray player, she said she wanted to have Netflix available. I could care less, but she said that we could scrap the cable TV if we had Netflix, so that's an incentive to me.

I told her that I was also planning to buy "a box" (i.e. a media player) to play my Xvids and other video files, and that I would get one that had Netflix capability, but now that I've looked into it for a couple of days, it looks like most (or all?) of the units that play media files will only play Netflix by using the 3d-party PlayOn product.

Is this correct? Or have I just not dug deeply enough?

I know I could just get a Roku for a hundred bucks and get Netflix -- that plus the BD-60 would still be cheaper than a lot of netflix-enabled BR players -- but then I'd still have to get *another* box for the media player (along with my blu-ray player *and* my old Oppo upscaling DVD player) and that verges on the ridiculous (five different input boxes including the cable).

I'd prefer not to build my own HTPC if I can avoid it. Not my area of expertise and not something I really want to spend much time on.

Thanks in advance!
post #2 of 8
1) Both the PS3 and the XBOX360 supports Netflix directly without the need for Playon.

Further, there are Blu ray players that support it too. Check the blu ray players forum for a listing.

2) Don't be daft. It isn't Netflix that is causing the roadblocks. Think real hard about the companies that Netflix rely on... the companies that have traditionally been very negative towards people having easy access to their movies... They require very specific copy protection to be used.

-Suntan
post #3 of 8
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Suntan View Post

1) Both the PS3 and the XBOX360 supports Netflix directly without the need for Playon.

Further, there are Blu ray players that support it too. Check the blu ray players forum for a listing.

2) Don't be daft. It isn't Netflix that is causing the roadblocks. Think real hard about the companies that Netflix rely on... the companies that have traditionally been very negative towards people having easy access to their movies... They require very specific copy protection to be used.

-Suntan

1) Thanks for the recommendation but I'm not really interested in buying a game system. Also, I have a blu-ray player already (too late to return it) and I'm not interested in getting another one until I can buy a high-end unit that will also replace my Oppo 981 (which could be never, if the Oppo blu-ray players don't allow you to unlock the region coding, but that's another story).

2) Sorry, I am daft sometimes. In my case, though, I have a (non-Netflix-enalbed) Panasonic blu-ray player. Since Panny is not also a content provider (like Sony), I have to guess that it's just greed on their part that's preventing them from making netflix available on their slightly older machines (via Viera Cast).
post #4 of 8
I think the Dune Prime 3.0 media player is supposed to get Netflix with a future firmware upgrade.
It also has a BD drive so you can play DIscs(CDs, DVDs, BDs)

And of course it also plays content from your network, a USB drive or eSata drive.
post #5 of 8
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Originally Posted by scratchie View Post

1) Thanks for the recommendation but I'm not really interested in buying a game system. Also, I have a blu-ray player already (too late to return it) and I'm not interested in getting another one

Then you're likely not going to get native netflix playback. These media streamer companies seem to be fine with people using Play On.

2) Since Panny is not also a content provider (like Sony), I have to guess that it's just greed on their part

No, it is the movie companies that impose strict requirements for DRM. Older blu ray players likely don't have the hardware required (they aren't general purpose computers that can be completely retasked with just an update to the firmware (thus the difference between "firm" and "soft" ware.)

Perhaps it is greed on the part of the blu ray player owner when they think they should be entitled to the addition of a completely new feature that wasn't available at the time of purchase...

-Suntan
post #6 of 8
Thread Starter 
Oh, snap!
post #7 of 8
I am looking for a netlfix enabled media player as well...will keep an eye on Popbox to see if they have a true Netflix HD experience or not. Not sure as yet....details are very few.
post #8 of 8
Thread Starter 
It looks like the Popbox and Boxee Box will be the ones to watch this year. Or early this year, anyway. 2010 is shaping up to be the year of internet streaming video, if I'm not completely daft (more than usual), so there will probably be more options later in the year. I'm looking to adopt something before my cable tv contract expires in July and will probably get one of the above two boxes assuming that they also offer reasonably robust video-file-format support and performance.
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