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Help! Paint Mix advice for AE4000 on BOC

post #1 of 12
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I'm looking for a little help in deciding on the "right" paint mix for my new Panasonic AE4000 on a 114" 2.4:1 BOC screen.

My room is dedicated for movies and some occassional XBox360 gaming with complete light control / no ambient light. Ceiling is black and walls are dark minty green with very dark carpet. The projector is ceiling mounted 16'2" from the screen, lens is a couple of inches down from the top of the screen. I zoom to remove the black bars on scope movies.

I am interested in RS-MaxxMudd or similar mixes but not sure which one would be best. I realize I am fairly far back from the screen and may need a boost in gain, I prefer using Cinema 1 and if possible I would like to run in econo mode (may not be possible I guess).

I have purchased most of the needed components for the 3 Maxxmudd mixes but not sure which if any would be best. I am coming from a Barco CRT projector so black level is important to me.

Feel free to chime in MississippiMan..........please.

Thanks for any help,
Rob
post #2 of 12
Well I'm currently running the Black Widdow mix on my AE2000 pj. I'm in the process of doing a clients house and will probably try out the Scorpion N8 mix. Not sure if the formula can be found on this site but google it.
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Well I'm currently running the Black Widdow mix on my AE2000 pj. I'm in the process of doing a clients house and will probably try out the Scorpion N8 mix. Not sure if the formula can be found on this site but google it.

Thanks, I will have to look into those options as well. I do already have the needed paints for several different versions of RS-MaxxMudd at this time as well as the Behr UPW 4850 so I think I would like to stick to one of those variants if possible.

A few more questions come to mind.

Should I prime or paint a base coat on the BOC before painting the top coat. Can I use just the plain UPW 4850 for this if needed.

I am having trouble deciding on a mix because there are so many variables and not a lot have people have built screens for the AE4000 but I imagine it would not be a whole lot different from the AE3000.

Choices so far seem:

RS-MaxxMudd

RS-MaxxMudd HGC

RS-MaxxMudd LL

MMud SE

or this one posted I believe by MississippiMan as an alternative (not sure if it has a name)

1 qt UPW
8 oz Minwax Satin Poly
2 oz Delta Silver Metallic
1.5 Teaspoons Folk Art Champagne Gold

Can these mixes be painted by roller if the need arises. How much paint will I need for either roller painting or spray.

Thanks again,

Rob
post #4 of 12
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I am leaning towards RS-MaxxMudd LL due to size of the screen and the distance from the projector to the screen. Does this seen like a good choice?

Rob
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Originally Posted by Rob_McArthur View Post

I am leaning towards RS-MaxxMudd LL due to size of the screen and the distance from the projector to the screen. Does this seen like a good choice?

Rob

Yes. It does. but do consider Spraying, using a $57.00 Wagner. It will spell all the difference...both in time saved and achieving a nearly perfect finish, as well as the viewable end results.

Sorry I let this Thread slip by, but I've been distracted by a sudden swarm of annoying "No See ems"
post #6 of 12
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Thanks for the input MississippiMan, I have a couple more questions for you (or anyone else).

Is the 4850 UPW ok to use in the RS-MaxxMudd LL?

If using BOC should I prime it and can I use the UPW if priming is needed?

How much of the RS-MaxxMudd LL will I need for a 114" 2.4 screen?

Thanks for your help,
Rob
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hey bro why dont u consult the catalog

What catalog?
post #8 of 12
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hey bro why dont u consult the catalog

Somebody trying to get enough posts to be able to post a link it looks like. Check out his other posts. I already reported.

Rob
post #9 of 12
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I will be getting the Wagner Control Spray for sure. Does anybody know if the Control Spray Double Duty model is appropriate, HD has it for $54.40.

Rob
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Rob[/quote]

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Originally Posted by Rob_McArthur View Post

Thanks for the input MississippiMan, I have a couple more questions for you (or anyone else).

Is the 4850 UPW ok to use in the RS-MaxxMudd LL?

The 4850 Exterior is self priming, but it also imparts a slight sheen of itself.
Since you will be using the reflective ingredients, and both water and Poly, you can use 1080 with absolutely no concerns

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If using BOC should I prime it and can I use the UPW if priming is needed?

For BOC, if you have a taunt stretch to the BOC, I suggest Rolling on the initial "priming" coat. Actually, using a quart of 4850 for that purpose makes a lot of sense. Rolling on the initial primer coat helps avoid the "fuzzies' that often occur when spraying the initial coats of paint onto BOC. After you roll, simply sand the surface with very light strokes and get ready to spray.

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How much of the RS-MaxxMudd LL will I need for a 114" 2.4 screen?

I don't advise that you try to reduce the mix by any more that 1/2 the listed amounts and ratios. Yeah, there will be some left over, but not so much as to be distressing or wasteful.

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I will be getting the Wagner Control Spray for sure. Does anybody know if the Control Spray Double Duty model is appropriate, HD has it for $54.40.

That's a Killer Deal. But the DD does have a wider nozzle opening and uses a larger Needle. This because they want to make the Gun output more paint, and also be able to use thicker paints.

Everything about spraying technique changes when you use the DD. You have to move faster, be slightly further away, and tinker with the amount of water that needs to be mixed in as opposed to when you use the normal Wagner CS.

I myself purchased a Control Spray Plus, which is even more powerful than the DD and has the same larger nozzle. But I also had a couple of older Wagner CSs about so by substituting the smaller CS nozzle onto the DD, I got increased air flow and a significantly larger pattern, but also the fine atomization of the older CS, and a more controllable output.

I still had to increase my speed across the surface a bit, but with the taller pattern I found myself simply flying through the job.

The best of both? Get that Control Spray for that excellent price, but go here:
http://www.gleempaint.com/control-spray-frontend.html

And get the extra Front End assembly. Do so, and you'll not just get an extra paint Cup and Spray head, the Nozzle it comes with is the smaller type.

If you check on the Gleems site, you'll see that the Wagner CS is selling for what you can get the DD for, so your deal is a good one. But also, if you purchase the Wagner CS on Gleams, then you don't need the extra nozzle.

It comes down to this; if you want a Wagner that will service more jobs than just painting a Screen and some Furniture, get the DD and the extra Nozzle.

Whichever route you take, be absolutely sure to check back with me on here or via PM for last minute additions or revisions as to the best spraying technique for the Gun/Nozzle choice and how much to thin the RS-Maxxmudd.
post #11 of 12
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Originally Posted by MississippiMan View Post


The 4850 Exterior is self priming, but it also imparts a slight sheen of itself.
Since you will be using the reflective ingredients, and both water and Poly, you can use 1080 with absolutely no concerns

I already have some 4850 will this be ok to use in the mix or should I return it and get the 1080? I originally got the 4850 for it's superior leveling ability. I do think I will need to get as much gain as I can with my mounting location and size of screen but I don't want to end up hotspotting either.


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Whichever route you take, be absolutely sure to check back with me on here or via PM for last minute additions or revisions as to the best spraying technique for the Gun/Nozzle choice and how much to thin the RS-Maxxmudd.

Thanks for the help, I will check back with you before I paint.

Rob
post #12 of 12
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Originally Posted by Rob_McArthur View Post

I already have some 4850 will this be ok to use in the mix or should I return it and get the 1080? I originally got the 4850 for it's superior leveling ability. I do think I will need to get as much gain as I can with my mounting location and size of screen but I don't want to end up hotspotting either.

The "Self Leveling" feature is redundant when one sprays on such thin coats instead of rolling on thicker ones. However the VOC content of the 4850 is considerably higher being an "Exterior" paint. (...not that such ever stopped me before...)

Your going to mix up a higher gain version of RS-MaxxMudd so I'd exchange the paint.

Thanks for the help, I will check back with you before I paint.

Rob[/quote]

Sawrite.
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